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The Mandarin

Claim, Assert, Dominate.
You can do all kinds of stuff. The problem is the structure of comics, they're never going to end, there's no final arc, and the next person they bring in to write it might well undo everything you wrote.

I think it's less that and more an unwillingness of modern authors and illustrators to take risks basically. They could easily do quality batman stories, but they won't because the safer road is the "easiest". Well, so they claim, manga murdering them sort of debunks that.
 

Doomsought

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I think it's less that and more an unwillingness of modern authors and illustrators to take risks basically. They could easily do quality batman stories, but they won't because the safer road is the "easiest". Well, so they claim, manga murdering them sort of debunks that.
I'm not sure of that. The people that they have writing the stories now are poorly paid, below the poverty line in the big cities they live in. The onyl reason they take the pay is for the glamor and popularity of working with the IP. Is it no wonder that they care more about appeasing activists for more popularity points than writing good stories that make money?
 

Bear Ribs

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I'm not part of the industry but my impression has been that their business model and practices came about in a time when they had an effective oligopoly. There was Marvel, there was DC, and there were a handful of also-rans amounting to a small fraction of the industry (and those competed in other niches than superheroes, like Archie). They designed how they sell around this situation and when actual competition showed up I don't think the comics industry handled it very well. Manga not only cut into the monopoly but have successfully entered niches that the big two pretty much ignored, such as romance and slice of life.

It doesn't help that manga are cheap to produce. Minimal use of color, cheaper paper, and generally produced in a "throw everything at the wall" strategy make them inexpensive. Then add in that successful manga have effectively already paid for themselves in the domestic market so the US market is pure gravy and it's not hard to see how they're undercutting the majors pretty heavy.

Quite honestly the reactions of the Comics industry haven't been terrible for what they had to work with. Switching to a movie primary strategy with the comic books themselves essentially becoming advertising vehicles for their movies and TV shows seems to have been quite profitable. Trying to position themselves in the market socially much less so of course.
 
I'm not part of the industry but my impression has been that their business model and practices came about in a time when they had an effective oligopoly. There was Marvel, there was DC, and there were a handful of also-rans amounting to a small fraction of the industry (and those competed in other niches than superheroes, like Archie). They designed how they sell around this situation and when actual competition showed up I don't think the comics industry handled it very well. Manga not only cut into the monopoly but have successfully entered niches that the big two pretty much ignored, such as romance and slice of life.

It doesn't help that manga are cheap to produce. Minimal use of color, cheaper paper, and generally produced in a "throw everything at the wall" strategy make them inexpensive. Then add in that successful manga have effectively already paid for themselves in the domestic market so the US market is pure gravy and it's not hard to see how they're undercutting the majors pretty heavy.

Quite honestly the reactions of the Comics industry haven't been terrible for what they had to work with. Switching to a movie primary strategy with the comic books themselves essentially becoming advertising vehicles for their movies and TV shows seems to have been quite profitable. Trying to position themselves in the market socially much less so of course.


except plenty of indie comics are realitly rolling in dough realitvly speaking in spite of being in oft straight up competetion with each other. So it's not like the resource pool is limited.
 

Bear Ribs

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except plenty of indie comics are realitly rolling in dough realitvly speaking in spite of being in oft straight up competetion with each other. So it's not like the resource pool is limited.
I'm... not sure how that relates to what I posted, at all. Some indie brands making a profit doesn't indicate an unlimited resource pool, nor does it have anything to do with how industry giants position themselves in the market.
 

Sixgun McGurk

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I remember reading comics on long car trips as a kid, but I just don't see them for sale anymore. The truth is that reading a 59 cent comic in the vain hope of seeing Archie nail both Betty and Veronica is no longer in 12 year old fashion. The IPhone is much more entertaining.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
I remember reading comics on long car trips as a kid, but I just don't see them for sale anymore. The truth is that reading a 59 cent comic in the vain hope of seeing Archie nail both Betty and Veronica is no longer in 12 year old fashion. The IPhone is much more entertaining.

59 cents could probably only be done if they chose to use the newspaper-type of paper

I can wait for the glossy look in a reprint, I prefer reprints of old pre-21st century comics when they’re easier to look at

That said, yeah, “Status Quo Is God” gets frustrating really quick
 

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