Battletech Welcome to the Jungle

Crazyone47

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Guys, this is getting to be a bit of a derail, the more so since the Successor States already have known that ComStar has it's own agenda that is not the same as theirs. See what happened at the start of the Second Succession War. (Plus Comstar has done the Steiners and Kuritas dirty in canon). It's a bit more suited for a general Battletech thread than this particular story which has a very different focus than ComStar shenanigans.

All this information will be doing is to give further proof to the Lyrans that ComStar is involved with the technological decline of the Inner Sphere. (and to the Mariks that ComStar was involved with Anton's Rebellion)

Unfortunately, they can't easily get rid of the Blakists (although all of the Great Houses both want to and have secret contigincy plans to harm ComStar/infiltrate ComStar along with additional plans marked 'what to do in case of Interdict'.
Huh I didn't know that.... so Im guessing our guy isn't stupid enough to just say that.
 

bobnik

Memetic Warfare Specialist
Huh I didn't know that.... so Im guessing our guy isn't stupid enough to just say that.
If you mean Weber, he wasn't supposed to have a great amount of BT knowledge from the SI. He did know Comstar was dodgy as hell, and something about Word of Blake, but almost certainly didn't have a) any hard details that could be verified b) any way of getting such details to responsible authority such that they would either believe him and not want to probe him after and c) the knowledge to make sure ROM didn't catch wind. You'll note in any of the earlier updates, whenever he had to deal with C* he was nervous as hell.
 

Lancelot

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Didn't he know enough to know about major events like the Jihad?

Of course as status quo isn't god here there is no reason for a certain daughter being to complete psychopath and cause a civil war.
 

sropike

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Didn't he know enough to know about major events like the Jihad?

Of course as status quo isn't god here there is no reason for a certain daughter being to complete psychopath and cause a civil war.
These are literally the first few lines posted:
The SI is clueless, since he is based on me before I got into Bruce Quest. Helm. What's that? New Dallas. Where? Never heard of it. BattleTech. Isn't that a tabletop game that wants to be Robotech?
He simply does not know.
 

Speaker4thesilent

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These are literally the first few lines posted:

He simply does not know.
Literally the first thing I learned about Battletech was that the Phone Company was evil. This was because it came up in conversation and it sounded so bizarre that I asked about the details. As such, it is one of the few bits of relevant setting knowledge that the SI possesses.
 

The Unicorn

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Literally the first thing I learned about Battletech was that the Phone Company was evil. This was because it came up in conversation and it sounded so bizarre that I asked about the details. As such, it is one of the few bits of relevant setting knowledge that the SI possesses.
It only sounds bizzare because the US government broke Ma Bell. From stories I heard about that I doubt anyone who had to deal with them before the monoply was broken would have any issue with the phone company being Evil.
 
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Yellowhammer

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Literally the first thing I learned about Battletech was that the Phone Company was evil. This was because it came up in conversation and it sounded so bizarre that I asked about the details. As such, it is one of the few bits of relevant setting knowledge that the SI possesses.

Yeah, for example, Weber knows at 'some point' some faction called 'The Clans' invade the Inner Sphere from outside and wreak havoc. He doesn't know when, where, or who they are past that.

One reason that he's keeping mum about being a SI to Julia is that he has zero info that can be verified by her to prove that he is (versus going insane).
 

paulobrito

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Yeah, for example, Weber knows at 'some point' some faction called 'The Clans' invade the Inner Sphere from outside and wreak havoc. He doesn't know when, where, or who they are past that.

One reason that he's keeping mum about being a SI to Julia is that he has zero info that can be verified by her to prove that he is (versus going insane).
Well, in my story, even several years (decades in fact) after marriage, the SI doesn't spill the beans about that, so I can relate.
 

Tel Janin Aman

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Comrade
Literally the first thing I learned about Battletech was that the Phone Company was evil. This was because it came up in conversation and it sounded so bizarre that I asked about the details. As such, it is one of the few bits of relevant setting knowledge that the SI possesses.
Ha that's the first thing I ever learned about battletech as well, truly their evil transcends realities
 

Brian-88

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Oooh, New MW5 content dropped and you play against the Steiners and Davions in a war game. Wonder if that could be tied in only Weber is now officially Lyran. The First Catachan being part of those exercises would be fun.
 

Crazyone47

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Are there any details on what life on high gravity worlds is like?

In battletech in general I mean?
For example giving borth and child development in high gravity environment?
 

Speaker4thesilent

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The most I noticed, was description of one character in a sourcebook as ''being stocky as all people coming from a high gravity world''. So this is going to be a dwarfhold in more than one way.
Interestingly enough, IRL examples seem to suggest that people on high-gravity worlds would be taller than the norm IIRC. There was an experiment done that animals raised under increased gravity (in a centrifuge) were of above average height.

Also got a couple bits of news for the thread. We have moved into the new house, finally! Huzzah!

Unfortunately I injured my knee in the process, though it’s starting to feel better.

As for the next chapter, I decided to scrap everything I had and start over because it was made of fail. It seems like starting new arcs is where I’m going to have trouble with this. On the other hand, I’ve got a start now that I actually like. Hopefully I can keep the momentum up and actually get the beginning of arc 4 out in the next week or so.
 

Omnimercurial

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@Speaker4thesilent

I just reached the end of page 12 and I am thoroughly enjoying this Fic a great deal!

You kept the action fast paced without feeling rushed, I was laughing and cheering when the Mechs used that Forest Fire to such great effect as well!

I still have quite a bit to read and catch up on, so I will just add for now that I am looking forwards to future developments, with a final thought/query....

I really hope we will see more of the Space elements in the Fic like Jumpships, Dropships, Stations etc.... Very few Battletech Fics address Space beyond a mention, so I very much enjoyed the detail you included in the Jovian Station/Facilities and the Orbital Station etc.

Is there any chance of LAM's being included in the Fic I wonder?

I enjoyed the ASF R&D and combat section a lot, so LAM's I feel you could really do justice to in depicting if you do choose to include them anyway.

Thank you for Writing and Sharing your Work with us all! ^_^
 

Speaker4thesilent

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Is there any chance of LAM's being included in the Fic I wonder?
The problem with LAMs is that they give up so much in the way of tonnage/crits that they basically are only as effective as an ASF or Mech of about 2/3rds of their actual mass.

As a result, they generally cannot win a fair fight. That doesn’t mean that they’re useless, just that they’re very niche in their application. You want to use them to raid rear areas, then once your opponent knows you have them, you simply deploy them as a ‘fleet in being’ threat.

If the enemy diverts their forces to protect their supply lines, then you simply hold them in orbit and every day that he has to guard his supply lines against your raids, you win. If he does not, then you raid him mercilessly until he does.
 

Yellowhammer

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I really hope we will see more of the Space elements in the Fic like Jumpships, Dropships, Stations etc.... Very few Battletech Fics address Space beyond a mention, so I very much enjoyed the detail you included in the Jovian Station/Facilities and the Orbital Station etc.

If you like Space mentions in Battletech, I can also recommend Heir to the Bruce Quest on Spacebattles. The quest protagonist winds up as an ASF pilot, so there's a LOT of space action there. (Although as Speaker said, LAMs are very niche there too).
 

Speaker4thesilent

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Decided to poke around with LAM construction for the lulz and to try to give you an idea of why LAMs are awful, @Omnimercurial

A theoretical Phoenix LAM, 50 tons, is:
  1. Slower than a Phoenix at 5/8/5 instead of 6/9/6. Even in the air it can only do 5/8 rather than the 7/11 the engine rating would suggest.
  2. It carries one less ML and one less point of armor than the Phoenix. It also only carries 10 freezers and it can thus only handle a standard PPC instead of an ER model. This is because...
  3. It isn’t eligible for any weight-saving technology besides freezers. No Endo. No FF. No XL engine or gyro. Because reasons.
The engine sort of makes sense, because it would be awful hard to do the transforming without borking an XL engine. The rest? :FASA:

Additionally, LAMs are expensive. After the BruceQuest XL price fix, a Phoenix costs 6.25 million C-bills. A theoretical Phoenix LAM costs 5.13 million C-bills for a vastly inferior product. In short, LAMs are either slow, under armed, under armored, or under sunk. Pick any two. (And if you don’t pick slow, you get the other three by default.)
 

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