We need to restructure our economy.

No I'm not against the Selective Service. Responsibilities go with freedom.

There's a difference though; military service directly contributes to the national defense directly, and is a measure exclusive to a time of active crisis.

You are talking about a program that may contribute to economic stability, would be compulsory for all citizens, and has no start or end period.

The comparison is not fit.
It has a end point. It is only 2 years of training and you get to chose what field you want to learn. Plus you gain a skill you can actually put into a side business and make money on the side of your normal job. Look Millennials have no money, Gen Z has no money. Both of those Generations are sorely lacking in the skill department outside of College studies. What I am proposing is to give these people options. They can of coarse refuse to do the Journeyman program. But they will forgo Pell Grants and all government based college aid. That would be the price paid. Part of my proposal is also to do away with the 12th grade in High School. You would literally begin doing your Journeyman training in what would be you senior year of High School. No better time to learn an actual job skill.
 
It has a end point. It is only 2 years of training and you get to chose what field you want to learn. Plus you gain a skill you can actually put into a side business and make money on the side of your normal job. Look Millennials have no money, Gen Z has no money. Both of those Generations are sorely lacking in the skill department outside of College studies. What I am proposing is to give these people options. They can of coarse refuse to do the Journeyman program. But they will forgo Pell Grants and all government based college aid. That would be the price paid. Part of my proposal is also to do away with the 12th grade in High School. You would literally begin doing your Journeyman training in what would be you senior year of High School. No better time to learn an actual job skill.
It can give aimless people something to consider than stay at home unemployed.
 
It has a end point. It is only 2 years of training and you get to chose what field you want to learn. Plus you gain a skill you can actually put into a side business and make money on the side of your normal job. Look Millennials have no money, Gen Z has no money. Both of those Generations are sorely lacking in the skill department outside of College studies. What I am proposing is to give these people options. They can of coarse refuse to do the Journeyman program. But they will forgo Pell Grants and all government based college aid. That would be the price paid. Part of my proposal is also to do away with the 12th grade in High School. You would literally begin doing your Journeyman training in what would be you senior year of High School. No better time to learn an actual job skill.
MIllenials and Gen Z 'have no money' because we are young 20 somethings. That's expected. When we get older, we will have more money. This isn't unique to millennials.

And you were not proposing to give options:
We need to have a National Journeyman program that trains ALL Students between the ages of 18 and 22 how to do a trade job.
The 'ALL' pretty much implies mandatory. And it's still a stupid idea. Like, incredibly stupid. Its great leap forward levels of stupid, but targeted at knowledge, not food supply. You have decided, with no evidence at all, that the Nation needs more plumbers. Then the solution to that, is to mandate the creation of more plumbers. And the cost would be enormous. Doctors are already deep in debt when they graduate. You want them to waste even more time, putting them in debt further into their life, while wasting some of their best years.

Then you are against the Selective Service then. Because that is compulsory. Being free does not mean you don't have a duty to your country. For some reason recent generations have lost sight of that fact. You have a duty not to be a burden to society. What good is a college degree when all you know how to really do is work at Starbucks. And we all know by now it is no longer a meme. But I will let this man say it better than I can.
And that man was wrong. Appeals to authority are also wrong. Selective service is slavery that can rarely be justified to fight off a greater, imminent, evil. In South Korea and Israel, mandatory conscription is probably necessary to survive. But in America? We don't need the draft, and should toss it out.

And @LordsFire is on the money when he points out the difference between the two. In the first case, only the imminent threat of a great evil justifies the lesser, but still enourmous, evil that is mass conscription.
 
MIllenials and Gen Z 'have no money' because we are young 20 somethings. That's expected. When we get older, we will have more money. This isn't unique to millennials.

And you were not proposing to give options:

The 'ALL' pretty much implies mandatory. And it's still a stupid idea. Like, incredibly stupid. Its great leap forward levels of stupid, but targeted at knowledge, not food supply. You have decided, with no evidence at all, that the Nation needs more plumbers. Then the solution to that, is to mandate the creation of more plumbers. And the cost would be enormous. Doctors are already deep in debt when they graduate. You want them to waste even more time, putting them in debt further into their life, while wasting some of their best years.


And that man was wrong. Appeals to authority are also wrong. Selective service is slavery that can rarely be justified to fight off a greater, imminent, evil. In South Korea and Israel, mandatory conscription is probably necessary to survive. But in America? We don't need the draft, and should toss it out.

And @LordsFire is on the money when he points out the difference between the two. In the first case, only the imminent threat of a great evil justifies the lesser, but still enourmous, evil that is mass conscription.
When I was in my Early 20s I was not broke. I had Hostile fire Pay. Sea Pay and the paycheck of an E-4. So don't say all 20 somethings are expected to be broke. The current crop however are broke as hell. And I stand by everything I have put forth. Because History in the end will prove me right.
 
When I was in my Early 20s I was not broke. I had Hostile fire Pay. Sea Pay and the paycheck of an E-4. So don't say all 20 somethings are expected to be broke. The current crop however are broke as hell. And I stand by everything I have put forth. Because History in the end will prove me right.
Um, history has spoken repeatedly about central planning. Spoilers: it ain't pretty.

As for your 'counter example', that's a anecdote. Congrats. There are also people who inherit money, and aren't poor at a young age. But for most people, they don't have much money at 20, then they advance positions over time, and work their way up the ladder.
 
Then you are against the Selective Service then. Because that is compulsory. Being free does not mean you don't have a duty to your country. For some reason recent generations have lost sight of that fact. You have a duty not to be a burden to society. What good is a college degree when all you know how to really do is work at Starbucks. And we all know by now it is no longer a meme. But I will let this man say it better than I can.


Jfk was the last good president imo , It's a Shame he got whacked after he talked about getting rid of the federal reserve.
 
When I was in my Early 20s I was not broke. I had Hostile fire Pay. Sea Pay and the paycheck of an E-4. So don't say all 20 somethings are expected to be broke. The current crop however are broke as hell. And I stand by everything I have put forth. Because History in the end will prove me right.
Likely broke and in debt to useless degrees.
 
Jfk was the last good president imo , It's a Shame he got whacked after he talked about getting rid of the federal reserve.
He fucked up with Vietnam but isn't that a problem trying to tard wrangle a proxy like when the Soviets did the same in Afghanistan?
 
Low oil prices are advantageous in a lot of ways. Shipping requires oil, commuting requires oil, some people heat with oil, etc. If they let businesses reopen then the benefits of cheap oil would provide some economic boosts until our economy restabilizes.

I don’t think doing such a thing would be so “approved”

So much oil use would be contributing to global warming and giving power to oil barons
 
He fucked up with Vietnam
And Nancy Pelosi

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1) Cities are a disease magnet. But they also are a innovation magnet. Allowing people to get together means a huge amount of innovation. It's the major way that GDP increases.
1) Not really, ideas still flow better when meeting in person. In addition, you would have to use massive government force to stop cities, which is both immoral and infeasible.
I think you are severely underestimating the impact of the internet and potential there for allowing the devolution of cities and how critical face to face is for conferencing ideas. As more and more people who grew up with instant internet communication come of age, who are used to conferencing ideas with text chat and the like come of age, I think you'll find that business' valuation of face to face will decrease, as much of that ideal is still driven by management that is dominated by pre-internet Boomers and GenXers.

Plus you're ignoring the sheer individual economic advantage devolution of cities grant that will help drive it as well. As Millennials finally start families and GenY, who grew up online, enter the workforce they will very rapidly find that there are serious economic advantages to NOT living in cities. Prices are lower, land is cheaper, money goes farther. The main thing that keeps people living near urban cores is balancing commuting time vs housing. If a person can do their job remotely, why wouldn't they move to a location where their salary benefits them the most? You also have to factor in cultural values, right now people are effectively forced to live near cities even if they hate it, but as remote working becomes more and more common you'll see thousands of people leaving urban areas because they dislike the culture or environment of the region.

Now, should this be top down mandated? Absolutely not. However, the government may well want to create some incentives to companies that encourage them to adopt pro-remote working set ups, as it would help economically reinvigorate rural regions which need help.

4) Bringing back Foreign companies isn't always a good idea, especially manufacturing. With China, sure. But with many other countries, free trade is a good idea, and makes things cheaper, which benefits everyone.
We need to figure out how to do international trade in a way that doesn't inherently screw over our own industries and citizens. Free trade, when all parties share similar legal structures and values, is quiet a good thing and allows smaller countries who are more specialized to bring themselves up (there's no reason that the US needs to be specialized when it comes to industry, we're big enough to be able to be generalist). Comparative advantage is a thing, but not all comparative advantage is actually equal. I tend to break down comparative advantage into two categories: natural and regulatory.

Natural comparative advantage is comparative advantage created due to things that are outside direct governmental control like environment, distribution of natural resources, or large scale economic measures like cost of living. These kinds of comparative advantage should be generally ignored when it comes to free trade and allow countries to leverage them to their advantage.

Regulatory Comparative Advantage, on the other hand, is comparative advantage created by direct government action. The most obvious example of this would be environmental laws and workspace safety laws. Basically if a government enacted law increases the cost of doing business in the US and so makes it cheaper to do the same thing outside the US, well, for THOSE laws we shouldn't simply accept free trade for. Rather, we should utilize tariffs to counterbalance those costs against gods made in locations that do not have similar regulations in place. Oh, this ALSO covers things like how some countries will artificially prop up their local industries to be more competitive with American businesses.

The thing is, a LOT of the comparative advantage the Chinese have had over US industries are in the second category. They've propped up industries with direct government support and they have considerably less restrictive environmental and worker protection laws. This may also apply to many other countries around the world. I suspect that once you remove areas of artificial competitive advantage from things, a LOT of industries may well end up being better located in the US or, at worst, Mexico, than on the far flung Pacific basin when it comes to trade with the US.
 
China was in a very unique position that I honestly don't see repeating, they both had the low wages and nonexistent regulations of a third world country but also the stability of a first world country, coupled with a huge population that could run many factories.

A corporation could probably beat China's wages by building a factory in, say, Venezuela but could they be sure that factory wouldn't be nationalized a month later? Or that Venezuela wouldn't fall into a civil war next year and ruin all the investment? Nor would all the tech companies invest in Venezuela at once because there aren't enough Venezuelans to operate all the factories needed. So third world countries are normally out despite their low wages, but China, ah, they had a stable government.

These conditions were a major, major push behind globalism. "Gloabalism" didn't ever really mean all the world competing in the same market, it meant manufacturing in China and selling to Europe, and the endless parade of European lawsuits and massive fines against American companies showed that the second was fairly weak anyway as countries just found an alternate means of shutting down/expensifying competition that wasn't tariffs.

With China having a bit of a meltdown and the expectation of their economy falling apart from over-leveraging, I believe those conditions are going away. I honestly don't see that unique set of circumstances coming again easily. China is already trying to export their work conditions to Africa due to not being able to maintain their work force in stasis, and burning their bridges pretty hard while doing it. I think the Globalism economy is already dying.
 
Um, history has spoken repeatedly about central planning. Spoilers: it ain't pretty.

As for your 'counter example', that's a anecdote. Congrats. There are also people who inherit money, and aren't poor at a young age. But for most people, they don't have much money at 20, then they advance positions over time, and work their way up the ladder.
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I think you are severely underestimating the impact of the internet and potential there for allowing the devolution of cities and how critical face to face is for conferencing ideas. As more and more people who grew up with instant internet communication come of age, who are used to conferencing ideas with text chat and the like come of age, I think you'll find that business' valuation of face to face will decrease, as much of that ideal is still driven by management that is dominated by pre-internet Boomers and GenXers.

Devolution of cities will only happen in those places where the infrastructure, and the reach that it gives to products and services, is good enough to allow this. I live in Rio de Janeiro, second-largest city in Brazil, and there are products and services I will only be able to get by going to São Paulo City(or by online purchase). Every other Brazilian city not close to it(with the possible exception of Brasília), is in the same, or more likely worse, situation. As for online purchases, unlike the USA or Western Europe, there are vast extensions of territory where access is precarious at best, and deliveries can't happen.
 
Devolution of cities will only happen in those places where the infrastructure, and the reach that it gives to products and services, is good enough to allow this. I live in Rio de Janeiro, second-largest city in Brazil, and there are products and services I will only be able to get by going to São Paulo City(or by online purchase). Every other Brazilian city not close to it(with the possible exception of Brasília), is in the same, or more likely worse, situation. As for online purchases, unlike the USA or Western Europe, there are vast extensions of territory where access is precarious at best, and deliveries can't happen.
Certainly this requires a first world level infrastructure and a very reliable one at that. Which is something the US happens to have. In point of fact, one of the interesting things about the current epidemic is that it's showcasing just HOW robust the US internet infrastructure is. In Europe, steaming services have had to reduce the quality of their video in order to reduce the load the video is putting on things... while in the US they haven't. This might not sound like much, but it's actually a huge indication at just how robust the US internet actually is.
 

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