Warbirds Thread

[Doomsought]

The US military has an obsession with trying to create a one size fits all solution for things and it rarely ever works out and often causes more problems. This looks like another attempt at creating a plane that can do every role.

Its the cult of the fighter, they beleive that anything that is not a strike fighter should not be in the air. I swear if they wouldn't get sacked for it they would try to argue cargo missions should be flown by strike fighters.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Its the cult of the fighter, they beleive that anything that is not a strike fighter should not be in the air. I swear if they wouldn't get sacked for it they would try to argue cargo missions should be flown by strike fighters.

Its not just the airforce that does that shit the Army does it too, Never forget the """Universal Camouflage""" pattern.

 

[bintananth]

Its not just the airforce that does that shit the Army does it too, Never forget the """Universal Camouflage""" pattern.

The Navy does it too.

An SSBN does not need 4 torpedo tubes because she'll never be on a "hunt-and-kill" mission when she still has ICBMs and wants to be nothing more than "you can't hear me" background noise.

 

[Sailor.X]

The Navy does it too.

An SSBN does not need 4 torpedo tubes because she'll never be on a "hunt-and-kill" mission when she still has ICBMs and wants to be nothing more than "you can't hear me" background noise.

It has those torpedoes because believe it or not every now and then back during the Cold War. Russian Subs would blunder across our Boomers. Let's just say stuff happened that won't get revealed until maybe 50 years from now.

 

[LordSunhawk]

Plus those tubes can be used to fire MOSS decoys in the event that you need to break contact, because Lord Admiral Murphy always has a say in things, and just when you decide that you no longer require X is when it becomes critical to have X

 

[bintananth]

It has those torpedoes because believe it or not every now and then back during the Cold War. Russian Subs would blunder across our Boomers. Let's just say stuff happened that won't get revealed until maybe 50 years from now.

I know that subs sometimes stumble across another sub and collide. In 2009 HMS Vanguard and Le Triomphant accidently said "Hello!" and it was global news because they're SSBNs.

British and French nuclear submarines in Atlantic collision

Missile-carrying British and French vessels return to base after suffering damage in underwater crash

www.theguardian.com

 

[Zachowon]

Its not just the airforce that does that shit the Army does it too, Never forget the """Universal Camouflage""" pattern.

We learned.
We are actually listening to soldier feedback for gear.
Like the new NGSW

 

[Bacle]

Plus those tubes can be used to fire MOSS decoys in the event that you need to break contact, because Lord Admiral Murphy always has a say in things, and just when you decide that you no longer require X is when it becomes critical to have X

Plus, well, torp tubes can be used for Harpoons, so having the tubes makes since even from an above-sea.

Eliminating torp tubes is just nonsense.

 

[bintananth]

Plus, well, torp tubes can be used for Harpoons, so having the tubes makes since even from an above-sea.

Eliminating torp tubes is just nonsense.

You're wading into an expensive "do everything" solution and we're going off-topic.

Back on topic: The DC-3/C-47

According to some the only good replacement for a DC-3 is another DC-3.

EDIT: The Wing Stop restaurant chain uses copies of DC-3 design drawings as part of the decor. Thought I'd add that little tidbit to the thread.

 

[bintananth]

The most numerous and important Japanese cargo plane during WWII was the Showa/Nakijima L2D. That's a DC-3 in all but name and yes, the Japanese actually bought the bluprints and a licence to build them.

Kinda caused some problems for fighter pilots on both sides because "that might be one of ours" was in play.

EDIT: The Soviets also produced a licence-built version of the DC-3. The Lusinov Li-2.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Kamov A-7
The first combat Autogyro if I recall correctly.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

Kamov A-7
The first combat Autogyro if I recall correctly.

By a somewhat shaky definition thereof -- the Kamov A-7 was the first armed military autogyro to enter service, but it was used as a recon and spotting aircraft, which is the exact same role that unarmed Cierva autogyros had earlier been used for by the Spanish military. It never actually participated in direct combat, so its only distinction over the Ciervas was being nominally armed.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Not a military airplane, but still

 

[Husky_Khan]

Whatever dummy said that World War IV would be fought with sticks and stones didn't lay their eyes on this beauty!

Latvian Air Force AN-2. Some sort of stealth aircraft with digital camouflage.

AFAIK it will be these aircraft that will conduct the opening strikes on Belarus when Latvia's Masters in Warsaw issue the call to war upon the Putinist Slavic Alliance.

Source

 

[The Whispering Monk]

AN-2 Colts are heavily utilized by North Korean SF b/c of the wooden frame and canvas. Only radar reflection is pretty much the engine. That, and the DMZ is pretty mountainous to cover the approaches. 1st strike effort for the Norks.

 

[Husky_Khan]

This showed up in my recommendations. I thought it was some vapid (but still cool looking) Corporate video by Sikorsky, but the guy in the tight black shirt was an actual YouTuber who apparently flies in various aircraft so it seems to be his passion. But anyways, this video he gets to hang out in the Sikorsky S-97 Raider!

AN-2 Colts are heavily utilized by North Korean SF b/c of the wooden frame and canvas. Only radar reflection is pretty much the engine. That, and the DMZ is pretty mountainous to cover the approaches. 1st strike effort for the Norks.

Also back in the 2020 Azeribaijan-Armenian War the Azeris were using An-2's as expendable drones to draw out Armenian Air Defense.

 

[PsihoKekec]

AN-2 Colts are heavily utilized by North Korean SF b/c of the wooden frame and canvas.

An-2 has metal frame and skin. The reason NK SF uses them is that they can fly low and slow, hugging the mountainous terrain to avoid radar detection.

 

[bintananth]

An-2 has metal frame and skin. The reason NK SF uses them is that they can fly low and slow, hugging the mountainous terrain to avoid radar detection.

Low and slow is no joke.

The An-2 doesn't have a known stall speed. You might need to use the brake pedel while your car is in 1st gear and idling just to go as slow as a flying An-2 that's going as slow as it possibly can. This goes double if it's high performance BS like my brother-in-laws '08 Koenigsegg. That bit of 14yr-old street-legal nonsense can keep up with an F1 car - it's actually faster - and can't be safely driven on city streets unless you really know what you're doing.

 

[BF110C4]

Low and slow is no joke.

The An-2 doesn't have a known stall speed. You might need to use the brake pedel while your car is in 1st gear and idling just to go as slow as a flying An-2 that's going as slow as it possibly can. This goes double if it's high performance BS like my brother-in-laws '08 Koenigsegg. That bit of 14yr-old street-legal nonsense can keep up with an F1 car - it's actually faster - and can't be safely driven on city streets unless you really know what you're doing.

I wonder how slow a plane needs to go for the chips in last gen heatseeking AAMs confuse the plane low speed, low altitude and relatively cold atypical heat source in the front of the plane instead of behind like most turbines and turboprops before they confuse it with a partialy burned flare and ignore it.

 

[bintananth]

I wonder how slow a plane needs to go for the chips in last gen heatseeking AAMs confuse the plane low speed, low altitude and relatively cold atypical heat source in the front of the plane instead of behind like most turbines and turboprops before they confuse it with a partialy burned flare and ignore it.

The An-2 uses a roughly 1,000hp Shvetsov ASh-62 30L 9-cylinder air cooled radial. If a heat seeking missile can't home in on and hit that while it's idling and stationary, the missile design is defective.