What If? US moved in time, how does the world left behind react?

OP says "continental", hence I assumed that Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico and the Pacific Terrtories remain. Plus US military overseas and - more importantly - the USN at sea or in RumpUSA or overseas bases.
Having all those boomers around simplifies things :)

No "Scramble for Free Clay" ensues, unlike for Africa in 1890 ...
Well, the continuous USA and Alaska are on one continent, so IMO 1800s alaska gets ISOTed, too.
 
I believe there is erronous (looks in mirror) misuse of continental for contiguous. Or it could be only me ...
I (mis)understood "continental" as "contiguous/Lower 48".
Sorry for confusion - hides in corner warilly watching out for dunce cap
 
OP says "continental", hence I assumed that Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico and the Pacific Terrtories remain. Plus US military overseas and - more importantly - the USN at sea or in RumpUSA or overseas bases.
Having all those boomers around simplifies things :)

No "Scramble for Free Clay" ensues, unlike for Africa in 1890 ...
Yup. However note that those boomers and aircraft carriers need maintenance and spare parts they can't get anymore. Not at least unless they make a deal with some other country...
Well, the continuous USA and Alaska are on one continent, so IMO 1800s alaska gets ISOTed, too.
Not how I meant it.

I (mis)understood "continental" as "contiguous/Lower 48".
So did I. OP edited to clarify.
Alaska, Hawaii and everything not part of the lower 48 US stays behind.
 
Now all good and clear :)
But before the boomers break down several years will pass - and these probably are the critical years when somebody might get handsy over "free clay" - in spite of the economic breakdown.
 
Care to explain? Because anyone worth a damn knows how important the USA is for world-wide stability.
I think he means "Most of the world hates the USA for some reason or another."
And it is not just your freedom and degenerate culture.
Your messianic neoliberal hegemonism has caused a lot of people to despise you, those that got bombed, those that lost out on economic opportunities and those that had to foot the bill for the refugees, and that is just Europe.
Moving to Asia, a lot of counties hate the fact that you pus economic neoliberalism and force them to alter their systems via things like the IMF.They were really pissed after the World Bank and the IMF went in after the Asian financial crisis and started calling the shots.
Obviously most people all over the globe are a lot less keen on the whole LGBTQFreeTrade agenda that outsources stuff and pushes what they see as degeneracy on them.
So, yeah, I imagine there will be much cheering and partying and consumption of Alcohol/Hashish/Weed/regular tobacco to commemorate the day the Great Satan goes poof.
A fair few of those places might develop a strong hangover, though.
 
Meanwhile, in 1800 ...
:)
Great Britain (not UK yet) demands damages for Montreal washed into the sea.

As the USA is big country, meets most of its natural resouces needs on its own and can feed itself it fares relatively well. All exports and imports are gone. Industrial capacity needs to be rebuild - expect clashes with green fucktards. Rebuilding some supply chains will take months, others - years or decades. Coffee? Natural rubber? These will take decades. From the Azure Main (or something like that) on AH-com covers such issues in (excessive) detail.
There will be screams for SJW adventurism - like global eradiction of slavery overnight. And suchlike. E.g. save the Great Auk!
Cooler heads will team up with Britain to stop the transatlantic slave trade. Whatever part of the USN and CG had been in ports (territorial waters?) should be able to do much good in the Carribean and vicinity. No slave imports post-1800 means different Cuba, Brasil etc.
France will be told to get the fuck out of Haiti. The country's history is changed for the better - US protection means no indemnity to France c. 1825 which impoverished Haiti for the rest of the XIXth century.
In Europe - once historical info reaches it, I'd expect France to be dogpiled - Spain switches sides, Prussia joins early - and beaten. Napoleon might be assassinated, some of the never-to-be Marshals jump ship. Bourbon restoration in France, status quo ante bellum restored in 1802.
Europe is unrecognizeable by 1810, the rest of the world follows.
Maybe lefty US racists created a protective blanket around the slave taking cannibals of New Zealand? Others demand the US engage in ethnic cleansing in the ME and create Israel. At US taxpayer expense.
 
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Meanwhile, in 1800 ...
:)
Great Britain (not UK yet) demands damages for Montreal washed into the sea.

As the USA is big country, meets most of its natural resouces needs on its own and can feed itself it fares relatively well. All exports and imports are gone. Industrial capacity needs to be rebuild - expect clashes with green fucktards. Rebuilding some supply chains will take months, others - years or decades. Coffee? Natural rubber? These will take decades. From the Azure Main (or something like that) on AH-com covers such issues in (excessive) detail.
There will be screams for SJW adventurism - like global eradiction of slavery overnight. And suchlike. E.g. save the Gerat Auk!
Cooler heads will team up with Britain to stop the transatlantic slave trade. Whatever part of the USN and CG had been in ports (territorial waters?) should be able to do much good in the Carribean and vicinity. No slave imports post-1800 means different Cuba, Brasil etc.
France will be told to get the fuck out of Haiti. The country's history is changed for the better - US protection means no indemnity to France c. 1825 which impoverished Haiti for the rest of the XIXth century.
In Europe - once historical info reaches it, I'd expect France to be dogpiled - Spain switches sides, Prussia joins early - and beaten. Napoleon might be assassinated, some of the never-to-be Marshals jump ship. Bourbon restoration in France, status quo ante bellum restored in 1802.
Europe is unrecognizeable by 1810, the rest of the world follows.
Maybe lefty US racists created a protective blanket around the slave taking cannibals of New Zealand? Others demand the US engage in ethnic cleansing in the ME and create Israel. At US taxpayer expense.
Considering how badly the lockdowns and the Russia embargos are hitting them?
I kinda doubt it, the USA still importa phosphates, essential high tech components and lots of other shit from the rest of the world.
This is going to hit agriculture badly IMHO, it will take a while to get phosphate fertilizer production back on track, and there won't be the transport infrastructure to move it around.I see lots of inner city riots, maybe food rationing and the like.
 
I think he means "Most of the world hates the USA for some reason or another."
And it is not just your freedom and degenerate culture.
Your messianic neoliberal hegemonism has caused a lot of people to despise you, those that got bombed, those that lost out on economic opportunities and those that had to foot the bill for the refugees, and that is just Europe.
Moving to Asia, a lot of counties hate the fact that you pus economic neoliberalism and force them to alter their systems via things like the IMF.They were really pissed after the World Bank and the IMF went in after the Asian financial crisis and started calling the shots.
Obviously most people all over the globe are a lot less keen on the whole LGBTQFreeTrade agenda that outsources stuff and pushes what they see as degeneracy on them.
So, yeah, I imagine there will be much cheering and partying and consumption of Alcohol/Hashish/Weed/regular tobacco to commemorate the day the Great Satan goes poof.
A fair few of those places might develop a strong hangover, though.
Perhaps not the words I would have picked, but pretty much the correct sentiment.

Most Americans do seem to fail to grasp just how much the rest of the world is pissed off at you.
Generally speaking US Presidents don't have an approval rating in the rest of the world*, its more like a rounding error, even America's allies more tolerate the US than actually like it.
And generally they don't discriminate based on American Partisan Politics, everyone else barely notices the difference.

(*Trump was just considered especially loathesome, its not as if anyone really has any warm fuzzy feelings about Biden.)
 
Care to explain? Because anyone worth a damn knows how important the USA is for world-wide stability.
Unfortunately there are a lot of people not worth a damn.
I doubt the parties will last a month, the people most likely to cheer for the US being gone are also those most dependent on it, but they will throw a party.

So,when we covered what happened in 2022 - what about 1800 world?
Scores of threads for that, the point of this one was to look at the uptime side.
 
If only Hawaii,Alaska and american military bases remain - then they would be run by army.Which mean widrawing part of their forces,keeping strong in Poland/and giving us H bombs/ ,and South Korea and Japan only/get them H bombs,too/.

Russia would eventually eat Ukraine,but not Poland.And get crippled by long war.
China could not invade Taiwan and win,and becouse there would be no more USA,they would be in economical crisis - they need USA now as much as USA need them,after all.

In 1800,i see 3 scenarios:
1.Trump win,USA rule the world
2.Cyvil war,nothing major changed elsywhere for the next 20 years.
3.Biden win,USA become comie hellhole,they conqer Mexico and part of South America,genocide millions,and fall for economical reasons.
In Europe - whoever get more refugees with modern weapons,win.Probably England,but,if some Napoleon fan get to him with lot of rifles....
 

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