Turkish-backed attack on Armenia by Azerbaijan with formal declaration of War

[Zachowon]

I’m not going to lie their military is looking really unimpressive.



That looks like test footage to me. It doesn’t look like that’s their actual combat use. Not a single tank is actually moving or doing anything at all.

They are using older russian equipment. that is why it looks unimpressive.

Tanks can be used for defensive, that is the one thing that surprises me about the officers I have met. Tey seem to think tanks are only useful in assault operations. Compared to US and western tanks they are not good for defensive operations but against similar they are still good.

Also, they need some Anti Air like damn

 

[Arch Dornan]

Also, they need some Anti Air like damn

Quoted for truth. This is the 21st century not back when tanks had less worries from the skies from precision bombing.

 

[Tryglaw]

Quoted for truth. This is the 21st century not back when tanks had less worries from the skies from precision bombing.

I wonder if a radar on a SPAAG could be used to fry a loitering munition?

 

[Arch Dornan]

I wonder if a radar on a SPAAG could be used to fry a loitering munition?

Loitering munition? Just a random munitions stockpile left on standby?

 

[Bacle]

Loitering munition? Just a random munitions stockpile left on standby?

No, 'loitering munitions' are basically suicide drones that can hang out, waiting a while for their target to show up, before going for it.

 

[Zachowon]

Quoted for truth. This is the 21st century not back when tanks had less worries from the skies from precision bombing.

Well they may have taken out the Anti air

I wonder if a radar on a SPAAG could be used to fry a loitering munition?

Eh maybe. Depending on the type of Radar and SPAAG and Drone

 

[Arch Dornan]

No, 'loitering munitions' are basically suicide drones that can hang out, waiting a while for their target to show up, before going for it.

That shit is the dream of sci fi come to life.

Whether these suicide drones will eventually have a few additions made for psychological effect remains to be seen like adding noises and paint for the Islamic edition with a robotic sound of Allahu Ackbar.

The Japanese Kamikaze edition would be with cries of Banzai but the influence of Japanese cartoons would change it to something else that's offputting like a child voice being spoken as it's about to explode.

 

[Bacle]

That shit is the dream of sci fi come to life.

Whether these suicide drones will eventually have a few additions made for psychological effect remains to be seen like adding noises and paint for the Islamic edition with a robotic sound of Allahu Ackbar.

The Japanese Kamikaze edition would be with cries of Banzai but the influence of Japanese cartoons would change it to something else that's outputting like a child voice being spoken as it's about to explode.

See, that's just counter-productive to what those things are used for.

You DON'T want people to see or hear them coming.

Though I'll admit sticking an old Stuka siren on them would probably have more of a psychological than either of those idea. No need for any voice or words, just a screaming hell-siren just before impact.

 

[Husky_Khan]

A fair number of the Turkish TB-2 drones have been shot doen over Libya and Armenia by Pantsir systems so it's not an impossibility even with whatever standard Libya and Armenia have training wise.

Plus these drones aren't cheap despite media reports to the contrary. TB2's cost five million each. The Israeli ones Azerbaijan uses which are clearly better cost ten million each. And they've been expended on things like random unmanned howitzers.

 

[Arch Dornan]

See, that's just counter-productive to what those things are used for.

You DON'T want people to see or hear them coming.

Though I'll admit sticking an old Stuka siren on them would probably have more of a psychological than either of those idea. No need for any voice or words, just a screaming hell-siren just before impact.

You never know with people in charge of fielding these suicide drones. There's probably some that maybe painted with skull and crossbones on them provided there's a situation that allows lax regulations to happen.

 

[Zachowon]

A fair number of the Turkish TB-2 drones have been shot doen over Libya and Armenia by Pantsir systems so it's not an impossibility even with whatever standard Libya and Armenia have training wise.

Plus these drones aren't cheap despite media reports to the contrary. TB2's cost five million each. The Israeli ones Azerbaijan uses which are clearly better cost ten million each. And they've been expended on things like random unmanned howitzers.

Arty is ALWAYS important.

The drones are used for high value stuff

 

[Bacle]

And they've been expended on things like random unmanned howitzers.

Wow, that's...well at least the Israeli's got some good customers out there.

You never know with people in charge of fielding these suicide drones. There's probably some that maybe painted with skull and crossbones on them provided there's a situation that allows lax regulations to happen.

Well of course, but sometimes that paint can screw up stealth plating or sensor windows.

It's not the best idea to do that.

Arty is ALWAYS important.

The drones are used for high value stuff

One howitzer vs a several million dollar drone?

I mean I could see using it as a spotter for counter-battery fire, but as a munition...that's not a great return on investment.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Arty is ALWAYS important.

The drones are used for high value stuff

There's videos released by the Azeris using drones on gun batteries identified to be like D30 Towed Howitzers and the like. Now maybe it was done in support of an attack or as counterbattery fire (I posted a video of an Armenian artillery strike earlier) but in a simple numbers game it doesn't seem cost effective for a small country like Azerbaijan... Unless Turkey is replenishing their stocks generously.

 

[Zachowon]

There's videos released by the Azeris using drones on gun batteries identified to be like D30 Towed Howitzers and the like. Now maybe it was done in support of an attack or as counterbattery fire (I posted a video of an Armenian artillery strike earlier) but in a simple numbers game it doesn't seem cost effective for a small country like Azerbaijan... Unless Turkey is replenishing their stocks generously.

Most likely Turkey is

 

[Marduk]

I wonder if a radar on a SPAAG could be used to fry a loitering munition?

I doubt any SPAAGs would have radars nearly powerful enough for that. Other things with advanced (probably not to be seen in this particular war) or particularly long ranged radars, maybye.

 

[Bacle]

I doubt any SPAAGs would have radars nearly powerful enough for that. Other things with advanced (probably not to be seen in this particular war) or particularly long ranged radars, maybye.

Well our new Striker SPAAG varaint might, but we sure as shit won't be selling it to either side of this conflict.

 

[Tryglaw]

I doubt any SPAAGs would have radars nearly powerful enough for that. Other things with advanced (probably not to be seen in this particular war) or particularly long ranged radars, maybye.

Hard to say, and people in the know won't be talking I guess - these drones are so light and small they simply can't be having all that much in the way of electromagnetic screening / insulation, so it's a question of just how much electromagnetic radiation is needed to induce destructive levels of current.

Edit: Also, witam rodaka, mało nas tutaj (chyba jeszcze tylko @ATP tu przybył z kosmicznych bitew...)

 

[Marduk]

Hard to say, and people in the know won't be talking I guess - these drones are so light and small they simply can't be having all that much in the way of electromagnetic screening / insulation, so it's a question of just how much electromagnetic radiation is needed to induce destructive levels of current.

Most guided missiles are even smaller and single use, yet for obvious reasons need to be screened against that.
Civilian drones or insufficiently modified adaptations of them are a different matter though.

Edit: Also, witam rodaka, mało nas tutaj (chyba jeszcze tylko @ATP tu przybył z kosmicznych bitew...)

Witam, i jestem pewien że paru jeszcze by się znalazło, ale nie róbmy offtopa obcojęzycznego.

 

[FriedCFour]

They are using older russian equipment. that is why it looks unimpressive.

No, it looks unimpressive because they are trying to use an AK as an indirect fire piece for some retarded reason, and react bizarrely to indirect being fired near their position.

 

[ATP]

Hard to say, and people in the know won't be talking I guess - these drones are so light and small they simply can't be having all that much in the way of electromagnetic screening / insulation, so it's a question of just how much electromagnetic radiation is needed to induce destructive levels of current.

Edit: Also, witam rodaka, mało nas tutaj (chyba jeszcze tylko @ATP tu przybył z kosmicznych bitew...)

Well,i come.Or to be precise,they banned me from SB.And i try so hard to not told anything about leftist religion...Unfortunatelly,they finally banned me for stating fact that soviet used wave tactic.