The modern day Israel is a fully secular nation. Not in any of their founding documents do they mention God. It's about as far from the kingdom of David and his successors as you can get without being fully committed to the adversary.
Tucker Carlson Leaving Fox News
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There was 2 kingdoms,Izrael conqered by Assyria and it 10 tribes are "missing" /in reality they are good muslims now,who live in Palestine and Iraq/ and Judea which was conqered by Babilon,but 2 tribes survived and their descendents are now modern jews.
Well,Chazars,too,there was not many blond jews in ancient izrael.
Oh yeah...
TyrantTriumphant
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What the hell has happened to Tucker in the last few years? He's gone from one of the most respected names in conservative media to a complete blithering imbecile.
I haven't taken him seriously in a while but this is a new level of stupid even for him.
I haven't taken him seriously in a while but this is a new level of stupid even for him.
I think that Tucker has decided that he's willing to have a conversation with anyone. If that person has a point of view that Tucker is curious about, Tucker is going to have that conversation. I think Tucker is reveling in the fact that HE is the only one that gets to decide who and what he talks about.
Look, I've consistently had two problems with Tucker: he's a socialist and he's credulous. He'll listen to anyone, and give them an easy a platform to talk. More, his intro to the people he interviews usually slightly backs them up/makes them sound interesting, which is another problem.
If he tossed his hype intro and just had a straight up interview about what the person believed, he'd be much better. There's nothing wrong with having the interview, but Tucker believes everything the interviewee says.
The next point, and this is important, is that the interviewee was careful to still point out that Hitler was bad. But because people are incapable of nuance, most people go Hitler bad, therefore allies good. But first, as everyone on this site knows, Stalin was also just as bad as Hitler. But many in the west view WW2 as a win for democracy. It wasn't, it was a loss: we lost half of Europe to totalitarianism through WW2. Stalin, not democracy, won WW2.
Now also, it's important to expand on that: FDR was also bad (not as bad, but still awful). The dude was a socialist, had a cult of personality, is responsible for a ton of current problems in America right now, and did Stalin Apologia to convince the US citizenry to back the soviets, including not condemning Soviet atrocities, put the Japanese Americans in concentration camps, etc. Is he on the same level of bad as Stalin and Hitler? Fuck no, but he still sucks and was one of the US's worst presidents and his death was a good thing for the US.
Now what the person being interviewed argued (something I'm not arguing) is that Churchill was also bad, because he wanted war with Germany at all costs. If (and the interviewee did do this) you keep in mind that Hitler was also bad, then it's at least an arguable position. I don't much agree with the guys arguments, tbc, but there are some points to be made (especially when Churchill was head of the Navy). I just don't think there's enough of an argument to get to "Churchill was a bad leader of the country" unless you go full "all leaders evil".
ShieldWife
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Before anybody calls Tucker Carlson or Darryl Cooper Nazis, it would be good to actually listen to the interview instead of just saying “OMG Nazis!” like how people always react to dissenting opinions.
TyrantTriumphant
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Tucker isn't a Nazi. But as Abhorsen said he's just utterly credulous. Fairly ignorant and has a tendency to believe anything he's told. Those qualities make a poor journalist.
Trash journalism if your going to bring on numerous controversial figures and not offer any serious pushback or challenges to their controversial statements. He's conducting an interview, not a podcast. Is Tucker afraid that if he challenges his controversial guests too much, they'll stop showing up on his show so he gives them the same treatment CNN gave Kamala Harris.
I think Joe Rogan has had more vigorous discussions with his guests. Even Lex Friedman has been able to challenge his guests in a completely cordial manner to draw out an actually interesting conversation instead of just taking statements and arguments at face value. It's like a night and day comparison with your average BBC World News Interview where the interviewer actually has proper followup questions unlike in most American media.
And this knowing full well Tucker Carlson can offer challenging interviews. Before he left Fox News, he used to actually conduct contentious interviews and discussions on his show, though the more popular he became, the less that actually happened to anyone of interest unless it was a convenient scratching post for his own POV he was advancing.
I think Joe Rogan has had more vigorous discussions with his guests. Even Lex Friedman has been able to challenge his guests in a completely cordial manner to draw out an actually interesting conversation instead of just taking statements and arguments at face value. It's like a night and day comparison with your average BBC World News Interview where the interviewer actually has proper followup questions unlike in most American media.
And this knowing full well Tucker Carlson can offer challenging interviews. Before he left Fox News, he used to actually conduct contentious interviews and discussions on his show, though the more popular he became, the less that actually happened to anyone of interest unless it was a convenient scratching post for his own POV he was advancing.
King Krávoka
This universe is made of knives.
Even that's an optimistic delusion, the Theosophical beliefs that inspired the Holocaust slipped even further under the radar than Marx, and were able to worm themselves into NGOs and schizo luxury beliefs just as effectively. We live on a Nazi planet.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
I think it's interesting that he interviews everyone, I don't really have any issue with controversial figures getting a platform. From my perspective it's the better thing to do rather than trying to censor any and all dissenting opinions.
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That's a big [citation needed]
as is this, though less so. afaik the left is much closer to gnostics than theosophy
TheRejectionist
TheRejectionist
Tucker can interview whoever he wants and that's the novelty of him. Back when I was a kid, the best medicine against actual revisionists and Neo-National Socialists was to let them speak and just like wait. If I can I will watch the full video once I have the time because I am currently job hunting.
Tucker agrees with him on various things.
@Abhorsen yes not everyone was good, and yes we had the Soviets. But in that interview the guy he interviews outright says the Nazis were forced to do the Holocaust.
That alone is a huge issue, because we know it was planned for awhile and not just them being forced too.
Additionally, they outright said Hitler shouldn't have gone to hell....
Simonbob
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News Flash, Zac?
They did. Or, more accurately, they didn't start out with that plan.
They were fully willing to do the mass murder of jews, blacks, gays, gypsies and others, but it's well known, if you look, their first plan for the jews was to ship them off to Israel. They just couldn't manage it, because of money and logistical reasons.
Added to that, as Darryl Cooper said, they started the war having no proper plan how to handle the millions of people that they'd have under their control. Partly because they didn't really plan to have WW2 the way it happened.
It was a massive fuckup, leading to the Nazis deciding it was cheaper and easier to simply kill all the "undesirables".
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
So what?
Vyor
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...There are no words in the english language for the amount of fucked up this post is.