United States Trump 2nd Term - Planning and Beyond

I used to be a Bernie Sanders fan, way back when, before the DNC snubbed him for Hillary. Now, based on the things he's said and the Pharma cash he's taken, I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.


We should care about it. Here's why:

Similar situation for me regarding Bernie. I respected him for what I thought were his honest principles. Now, I hold the same opinion of Bernie regarding fire and pee.
 
I used to be a Bernie Sanders fan, way back when, before the DNC snubbed him for Hillary. Now, based on the things he's said and the Pharma cash he's taken, I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.
Maybe there was never a time Bernie wasn't corrupted by DCbrain. He is a career politician and longtime D.C. resident after all. I was never that excited about Bernie the way some of my liberal neighbors were, I kind of reluctantly got on board to begin with and by the time the primary was in full swing I was a diehard soldier for Bernie primarily because I saw Hillary Clinton as the critical neocon saboteur that she was, and it was truly this election cycle that I discovered what a serious threat the neoliberal/neocon cult was. If only things were as simple now as they were back then. Now, Bernie - along with his lieutenants in the Squad - has gone full-establishment. The liberal and left-wing hangers-on are all essentially deep state and establishment cheerleaders, the few principled lefties like Aaron Mate and Jimmy Dore have basically endorsed Trump as the lesser evil as per 2024, which in my opinion has been the breaking point for the neocon-neoliberals and their lefty and liberal minions.
 
Maybe there was never a time Bernie wasn't corrupted by DCbrain. He is a career politician and longtime D.C. resident after all. I was never that excited about Bernie the way some of my liberal neighbors were, I kind of reluctantly got on board to begin with and by the time the primary was in full swing I was a diehard soldier for Bernie primarily because I saw Hillary Clinton as the critical neocon saboteur that she was, and it was truly this election cycle that I discovered what a serious threat the neoliberal/neocon cult was. If only things were as simple now as they were back then. Now, Bernie - along with his lieutenants in the Squad - has gone full-establishment. The liberal and left-wing hangers-on are all essentially deep state and establishment cheerleaders, the few principled lefties like Aaron Mate and Jimmy Dore have basically endorsed Trump as the lesser evil as per 2024, which in my opinion has been the breaking point for the neocon-neoliberals and their lefty and liberal minions.
The Neocon-Neolib blob is hilariously amoral. They don't care about anything at all except money, power, and influence. They have no principles whatsoever. And, worst of all, they're lazy. All they do, all day, is merely rubber-stamp the policies that unelected bureaucrats invent for them, and then pocket some kickbacks. Those bureaucrats and technocrats, meanwhile, are often involved in revolving-door hires with the private sector and, of course, regulatory capture.

These are dirty words among garden-variety liberals. You aren't allowed to actually say any of this without being tarred and feathered. People have very selective hearing about these sorts of things. You can tell them all about Carmen Segarra recording people saying heinous shit like this:


For instance: ProPublica reporter Jake Bernstein describes a meeting where a senior Goldman compliance executive "mentioned that Goldman's view was that once clients were wealthy enough, certain consumer laws didn't apply to them."

... and it just goes in one ear and right out the other.
 
The Neocon-Neolib blob is hilariously amoral. They don't care about anything at all except money, power, and influence. They have no principles whatsoever. And, worst of all, they're lazy. All they do, all day, is merely rubber-stamp the policies that unelected bureaucrats invent for them, and then pocket some kickbacks. Those bureaucrats and technocrats, meanwhile, are often involved in revolving-door hires with the private sector and, of course, regulatory capture.

These are dirty words among garden-variety liberals. You aren't allowed to actually say any of this without being tarred and feathered. People have very selective hearing about these sorts of things. You can tell them all about Carmen Segarra recording people saying heinous shit like this:




... and it just goes in one ear and right out the other.
It really looks like the "blob" (or cult, or crime syndicate, or Legion of Doom, or what have you) has found its new home alongside mainstream liberals in the Democrat party. The rot even extends into my own community, which this fucking neocon/neolib fucking MIND VIRUS has infected through built-in backdoors in the DNC (and thus, Democrats voters and politicians alike) because political partiea are fucking EVIL and anyone who puts all their eggs in that basket deserves to get fucked over imo. Even Trump I'm sure will fuck up catastrophically at some point in the near future as US politicians are wont to do
 
I'm just hoping Trump continues to operate under the motto, "Full speed ahead, and damn the establishment!"

edit: Dang...that needs to be a tshirt
People are actually shocked that Trump's constituents voted for this.

"He's a madman! He's a bull in a china shop! He's taking a wrecking ball to our precious institutions!"

Literally fuck the administrative state. I want a bull in a china shop. I want somebody to take a wrecking ball to the institutions. I want the apparatuses of soft totalitarianism used by the neolib-neocon blob of kleptocrats to be dismantled permanently.
 
We should care about it. Here's why:

Ah. So typical peak oil scaremongering. I think for one we agree in opinion about the political faction who leads in this, and their motives for it being retarded and/or malicious. So, why take their scaremongering as a fact, plus mixing in a bunch of other theories of questionable validity just to make absolutely sure that there is a mistake or two in the reasoning?
For one the data is skewed by most western countries that have oil fields either reducing production, or at least not surveying for further oil out of purely ideological reasons. So, take your questions for the likes of these people. Same ones who stall and red tape nuclear power in the West by the way.
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Now that's one hell of an economic anomaly. It's not like South Korea has access to space alien technology that makes nuclear power plants cheaper, in fact they either buy components for those in the most expensive country on the list, or would sell them to it as gladly as they sell all the Samsung products.
Somehow Japan, China and India also have access to such secrets.
Can you imagine the outrage if for some reason the same GPUs or smartphones would cost 4x more in EU and USA than they do in SK and Japan?
Methinks the fault lies with politicians and bureaucrats exclusive to the high end of the list that should not be entrusted with any task more important than counting penguins in the Antarctic, that for some strange reason are given cushy jobs in managing the energy industries of many countries.

Now that we have established that the obvious alternative to oil is being politically decreed to be expensive and slow....
How can you trust the same people that the "peak oil crisis" is also something natural, real and unavoidable?
After all, if they worry about an energy shortage crisis, why are they artificially blocking the most obvious solution to it?
OTOH if they want an energy shortage crisis and artificially ruin at least one energy sector to make it sting, how can you believe that they aren't doing exactly the same thing to the oil sector too (while proudly virtue signalling that this is what they want and should do), perhaps even bullshitting the whole crisis into existence in the first place?
 
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If rail was such a good idea, private companies would do it. Coincidentally, they do it for commercial transportation but not for passengers. Huh, it's almost like there's some sort of signal from tens of thousands of people who have ground level knowledge that this might be a bad idea.

But I'm sure some smart college graduate knows what's really best for everyone else, not the free market which is made up of those tens of thousands of people who deal with rail every day and collectively know a ton about it.
 
If rail was such a good idea, private companies would do it. Coincidentally, they do it for commercial transportation but not for passengers. Huh, it's almost like there's some sort of signal from tens of thousands of people who have ground level knowledge that this might be a bad idea.

But I'm sure some smart college graduate knows what's really best for everyone else, not the free market which is made up of those tens of thousands of people who deal with rail every day and collectively know a ton about it.
You can use that argument with me as well. Now I think that trains would work wonders for you lads in the States, but as far as I know there's no interest unless there's going to be lucrative outcome afterwards. There are others reasons and videos on the net of how and why it worked in Eurasian countries from Portugal to Vladivostok and to Tokyo to Seoul and likely someone here already illustrated it before I joined the Sietch or the thread here. It's like public healthcare in Europe/Italy, sure it's free* (paid with my 22% of taxes out of my income) but if I want a visit IMMEDIATELY OR ASAP or something like that I still to pay (not expensive AS the US but fuck it's annoying after the first time) a lot of the times.

Like, in lots of subjects, debates and others, it varies depending on reasoning and country. But 9/10 needs a goddamn asterisk.

Oh, one thing, when Neoliberals or others tell you about Europe's trains remind them that (also) because of the pro-immigrations NGOs, politicians and so on, some train lines are not welcomingly considered safe, even I that I am 6,00394 feet (183cms of height) I am wary every TIME I board a regional or trans-regional train (or metro).

I am pretty sure @Buba and @ATP can talk about their case for Polska and Central Europe, which have way more efficient and safe public transport, barring the local drunkards and junkies, even in leftist-liberal-progressive cities like Krakow.
 
Apperently Sputnik the Russian news agency is celebrating USAID revelations happening
Of course they are, the shit they've been wasting money on makes us look bad. And the fact that our adversaries are celebrating this fucking stain on our reputation is still not a reason not to clean it up.

We got a positive cancer diognosis and our enemies are celebrating, is that a compelling reason not to cut the cancer out?
 
Apperently Sputnik the Russian news agency is celebrating USAID revelations happening
Of course they are, the shit they've been wasting money on makes us look bad. And the fact that our adversaries are celebrating this fucking stain on our reputation is still not a reason not to clean it up.

We got a positive cancer diognosis and our enemies are celebrating, is that a compelling reason not to cut the cancer out?

Everybody who has been indirectly and directly negatively affected by US foreign policy should be celebrating. I am as well, for my friends and for my mother's country, Brazil, especially because of the 2022 election. Trump gained massive respect from me and likely who has half a brain. Hell, I will respect everyone who is a decent fellow or lass that voted for Trump and is still insisting on his appointees like Gabbard.
 
I am pretty sure @Buba and @ATP can talk about their case for Polska and Central Europe, which have way more efficient and safe public transport, barring the local drunkards and junkies, even in leftist-liberal-progressive cities like Krakow
I use public transport in the leftist-liberal-progressive city of Warsaw and its environs and IMO it is fantastic. Just today I took the train to Warsaw and back, as I had a medical appontment involving atropine drops. I used my car only for the 4km drive to-and-from the station to my adobe.
I live in the boonies where life without a car would be ... bothersome, but I know people whose life is 99% inside Warsaw who give up their cars as they do not use them enough as to justify the cost. My Sweet Baboo (i.e. my grown up son) refuses to get a car as "daaaaad, I don't need one!"
 
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What is with this fucking train brainbug so many on the left seem to salivate over?

I'm insulted. I'm as far from left as you could get, and I still want my goddamn trains.

That said, I understand why we don't have them(many of the reasons you outlined), but part of the issue that many people don't get is the one thing that America actually does VERY well using trains that other nations don't, which is moving goods. The train network in America is very, very good at moving tons of mass around in a relatively quick manner that isn't bogged down by interstate travel and can move directly from river and oceans ports to other areas that can then be distributed by other means.

The problem is, and what many people don't click to, is that the requirements for moving freight via a train network and moving people by train is very different, and much more costly, limiting them to already established transportation corridors setup explicitly for moving people.

In addition to this, the one benefit that traveling by train might offer - having a room to yourself - is rendered useless by the cost involved and the time of travel - trying to get a sleeper cabin on a train for a multi-night trip can run over a thousand dollars, making air travel much more appeal in terms of time and savings, so there's no pressure to really streamline it - it's a luxury, and a rarely used, niche luxury, at that.

The closest we could get to argue about comparing Japan and American people transportation via trains is how the flip Japan manages to make it both cheaper and better(an overnight train in Japan costs roughly the equivalent of a cheap hotel in America), but that's likely due to volume and turn-around.
 
I'm insulted. I'm as far from left as you could get, and I still want my goddamn trains.

That said, I understand why we don't have them(many of the reasons you outlined), but part of the issue that many people don't get is the one thing that America actually does VERY well using trains that other nations don't, which is moving goods. The train network in America is very, very good at moving tons of mass around in a relatively quick manner that isn't bogged down by interstate travel and can move directly from river and oceans ports to other areas that can then be distributed by other means.

The problem is, and what many people don't click to, is that the requirements for moving freight via a train network and moving people by train is very different, and much more costly, limiting them to already established transportation corridors setup explicitly for moving people.

In addition to this, the one benefit that traveling by train might offer - having a room to yourself - is rendered useless by the cost involved and the time of travel - trying to get a sleeper cabin on a train for a multi-night trip can run over a thousand dollars, making air travel much more appeal in terms of time and savings, so there's no pressure to really streamline it - it's a luxury, and a rarely used, niche luxury, at that.

The closest we could get to argue about comparing Japan and American people transportation via trains is how the flip Japan manages to make it both cheaper and better(an overnight train in Japan costs roughly the equivalent of a cheap hotel in America), but that's likely due to volume and turn-around.
I acknowledged the use of trains in moving freight, heck, I actually think we should encourage MORE freight to be transported by train and build those networks out further, as it really is an excellent solution for large scale freight transit.

However, the issue with comparing Japan to the US goes back to that same scale thing I mentioned. Japan is roughly the size of California, and HSR might be useful within California (assuming they can actually build it, which is a separate issue), but outside of California for longer distances? As you note, the time and speed of a plane just ends up being the superior choice for the vast majority of people.

Also, when people are going to have the cost of multiple hotel stays and take multiple days for a trip, many end up preferring to drive themselves over taking a train. As by that point if you're taking multiple days for a trip, it's advantageous to MAKE THE TRIP ITSELF an event, where you stop at various sightseeing spots, visit museums in towns and cities you pass through, find local restaurants to eat at and stop by a national park or two to see some of the natural beauty of the country. These are things you cannot do on a train... due to a train needing to maintain a set schedule and be on rails. This is why so long distant rail just can't compete, if you're pressed for time, planes are faster, and if you're not pressed for time, the freedom a car offers in being able to make the trip into a journey is unparalleled.
 
If rail was such a good idea, private companies would do it.
Not really, because the benefits of a rail network are strongly dependent on inter-operability that entails sacrificing captive customer bases with all the rent-seeking wonders it entails, positioning that causes enormous lag in market correction as the land used is non-fungible which also causes some very nasty inefficiencies in competitors existing, and operating at low profit margins so that the cost of freight actually goes down instead of just pocketing the difference.

Additionally, setting up a railway is incredibly expensive, becoming exponentially moreso as you approach urban centers that'd most benefit from the terminals, while taking quite some time to enter service and needing to compete with every single other method of transportation. This makes them an absolutely horrible investment for pure profit motive due to how trivial it is for compounded gains in another sector to do better.

Unless you want them to form horribly corrupt oligopolies to harvest the distortions of those captive customer bases and incredibly slow market corrections, of course. Because that's what happened back when private companies were building railways, before any relevant regulators existed to capture.
 

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