The Right and White Nationalism - An annoying cancer

But legally they are under US jurisdiction if they are on US soil. If an illegal immigrant has tons of cocaine on them, you aren't just going to pick them up and dump them outside the country and that's that. No you try him and then if he is convicted make him spend years in jail, paying for his upkeep, and THEN you deport him back where he came from. Truly the logical and intelligent thing to do.
In this case 'jurisdiction' does not mean being on US soil.

It means one parent must be a US citizen, thus being under US 'jurisdiction'; as in no matter where they are, they are classified as being under US 'jurisdiction' for legal and tax purposes.
 
Well the supreme court which you seem to be so fond of has ruled otherwise.
I'm not aware they've even had a case regarding the definition of 'jurisdiction' on this.

AFIAK, the issue has been handled/mishandled by infighting between State Dept., INS, and illegal immigration advocates/defenders.
 
My loyalty is to this country first and foremost, in contrast to certain individuals who seem to think that their loyalty is conditional on the US being white or Christian.
No. Those are just foundational characteristics of America that it would be good to retain because that is part of what makes it great. White people built this nation from the ground up. Christians built this nation from the ground up. If you love it give them the credit they deserve. I would love America even if it had nothing to offer me because it’s my home, because of what it once was, even if all of that is dead. I’d love it even if the vast majority of the population hated me, if it’s culture was radically altered, if it wasn’t even possible to save, if there wasn’t a person here who spoke English natively or even knew a bit of its history except me.

To me, it's really pretty simple. We are Americans and America is the greatest nation in the world, the leading light among the civilized people. But anyone who wants to and can contribute can become an American. We aren't stinking Europeans with their idiotic thing where only those with French "blood" can be French or whatever.
And that’s sadly not been the case. You have to look at things demographically and how they vote and what they support and what that’s led to. That doesn’t mean you can’t be in line with America and its founding ideals or characteristics because you aren’t white, but voting demographics and values of the majority are what has to be looked at.

It’s also not how America was founded, that “anyone can be an American!” that’s a lie. The founders had it so that only Europeans could be citizens and where people came from and how in line they were with the American identity in its founding was kept as policy all the way up until 1965. And since 1965 our immigration policy has been nothing short of disastrous. California went from deep red to deep blue as just one example. I am a native Californian, with family roots tracing back over 100 years to California, some came as Oakies in the Great Depression. and others with the gold rush. And I grew up in an area so heavy with immigrants that I felt like a foreigner in my own homeland. That is what is happening to America and that is what I don’t want to see continue.

“Anybody who wants to” is nothing short of open borders. We have enough immigrants. As a whole, they don’t integrate or what they do integrate to is the liberal narrative and liberal beliefs. This has to be factored in with your immigration policy because if you just hold to this idealism of “anyone can be an American!” And these people vote against absolutely everything you want America to be like and everything that you think makes America great, well, then it isn’t very well going to be great anymore is it? You’re choosing to bring on millions of people who radically alter the voting demographics and make your vision of America less and less viable until it ceases to be possible entirely. And then all you are left with is loving America for what I said, for what it once was and even though it has nothing to offer you.

The right needs to stop being suicidally devoted to “principles” that they’ve been lied to that are foundational when they never were and start examining things pragmatically. Start realizing that the viability of keeping the things they love about this country are in serious jeopardy of ceasing to ever be possible to retain, and to start pursuing policies, voting for candidates who do and holding their representatives feet to the fire who don’t.
 
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Well the supreme court which you seem to be so fond of has ruled otherwise.

There is no Supreme Court ruling that the children of Illegal Immigrants are citizens.

What there is the opinion of I think one Justice, given in a concurring opinion on a decision that a majority of justices at the time did not agree to.
 
It’s also not how America was founded, that “anyone can be an American!” that’s a lie. The founders had it so that only Europeans could be citizens and where people came from and how in line they were with the American identity in its founding was kept as policy all the way up until 1965

if they only wanted to be Europeans why not just stay in Europe? were the resources drying up or something?
 
if they only wanted to be europeans why not just stay in Europe? were the resources drying up or something?
It’s not that they only wanted to be Europeans but America pursued policies to either only take on white or severely limit the number of nonwhite immigrants to America up until 1965, because it was recognized that America has a culture derived from Europeans and Europeans were obviously more similar and could integrate better than non-Europeans which bears out to this day.
 
if they only wanted to be Europeans why not just stay in Europe? were the resources drying up or something?

This comment sort of indicates to me you might need to read up on American history? Are you unaware of the reasons Europeans left? There were many, but none of them were "we really want to live among non-White people."

Throughout history, basically any time one people had the overwhelming ability to conquer and displace another, they ended up doing so.

Edit: Sorry if this was ganging up, I posted this before I saw the other responses.
 
Err... You read it the wrong way around. It's no more than 30%, not less, meaning that it forces de-ghettoization.

No, I read it the right way. My point was that 30% was already passed the percentage where all the White people end up leaving, anyway- so if a neighborhood hits 30%, even if you banned any nonwhites from moving there, it would still naturally increase past 30% as the White people left. I doubt this legislation bans White people from leaving, so I'm not sure how this dynamic will play out.
 

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