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The Pentagon is moving toward letting AI weapons autonomously decide to kill humans

  • The US is among countries arguing against new laws to regulate AI-controlled killer drones.
  • The US, China, and others are developing so-called "killer robots."
  • Critics are concerned about the development of machines that can decide to take human lives.
The deployment of AI-controlled drones that can make autonomous decisions about whether to kill human targets is moving closer to reality, The New York Times reported.

Lethal autonomous weapons, that can select targets using AI, are being developed by countries including the US, China, and Israel.

The use of the so-called "killer robots" would mark a disturbing development, say critics, handing life and death battlefield decisions to machines with no human input.

Several governments are lobbying the UN for a binding resolution restricting the use of AI killer drones, but the US is among a group of nations — which also includes Russia, Australia, and Israel — who are resisting any such move, favoring a non-binding resolution instead, The Times reported.

"This is really one of the most significant inflection points for humanity," Alexander Kmentt, Austria's chief negotiator on the issue, told The Times. "What's the role of human beings in the use of force — it's an absolutely fundamental security issue, a legal issue and an ethical issue."

The Pentagon is working toward deploying swarms of thousands of AI-enabled drones, according to a notice published earlier this year.

In a speech in August, US Deputy Secretary of Defense, Kathleen Hicks, said technology like AI-controlled drone swarms would enable the US to offset China's People's Liberation Army's (PLA) numerical advantage in weapons and people.

"We'll counter the PLA's mass with mass of our own, but ours will be harder to plan for, harder to hit, harder to beat," she said, reported Reuters.

Frank Kendall, the Air Force secretary, told The Times that AI drones will need to have the capability to make lethal decisions while under human supervision.

"Individual decisions versus not doing individual decisions is the difference between winning and losing — and you're not going to lose," he said.

"I don't think people we would be up against would do that, and it would give them a huge advantage if we put that limitation on ourselves."

The New Scientist reported in October that AI-controlled drones have already been deployed on the battlefield by Ukraine in its fight against the Russian invasion, though it's unclear if any have taken action resulting in human casualties.

The Pentagon did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

My concerns about this are less 'Skynet' and more 'US government uses AI soldiers to crush rebellions or protests, because unlike Private Joe Smith, the AI doesn't have compassion or a family at home that he needed to worry about getting targeted in retaliation'.
 
The Pentagon is moving toward letting AI weapons autonomously decide to kill humans



My concerns about this are less 'Skynet' and more 'US government uses AI soldiers to crush rebellions or protests, because unlike Private Joe Smith, the AI doesn't have compassion or a family at home that he needed to worry about getting targeted in retaliation'.
No thanks. I think a human should always be in charge of pulling the 'trigger'. Not because I think all humans have a conscience, but because it's a hell of a lot harder to 'hack' a human.
 
Not even that. A smart enemy that's able to hack your comms, can potentially just turn all your AI driven weapons back on you.

But monk, don’t you know that the Chinese, Russians and Arabs are too stupid and primitive to do stuff like that?

I mean, everyone knows that they stand no chance against us!

America STONK! NATO STONK! Don’t ask questions or you are vatnik!

:p
 
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But monk, don’t you know that the Chinese, Russians and Arabs are too stupid and primitive to do stuff like that?

I mean, everyone knows that they stand no chance against us!

America STONK! NATO STONK! Don’t ask questions or you are vatnik!

:p
...really, it's not the states that worry me.
 
Eh, at this point, I'd prefer the US MIC just stop prancing around on this and start building us some fucking droideka and supers.

A Droid Army isn't the worst idea, if you can get the gear and software right.
 
Eh, at this point, I'd prefer the US MIC just stop prancing around on this and start building us some fucking droideka and supers.

A Droid Army isn't the worst idea, if you can get the gear and software right.

And when some crazed individual decides to us that ever obedient army to purge political undesirables?
 
And when some crazed individual decides to us that ever obedient army to purge political undesirables?
The AI genie ain't going back in the bottle, so I'd prefer the US make our drone/droid forces as lethal as possible to use against the external enemies.

Because I don't see the powers in DC doing a 'purge' at home with the tech; debanking is far more effective and more PR friendly than purges.

The AI weapons are for the CCP/Russia/Iran/North Korea vs everyone else (including the US) fight that is slowly simmering.

State actors are the real targets of AI, internal dissidents/opposing political groups are already rather vulnerable to plenty of other methods.

Also, push comes to shove, we've already lost if the powers in DC decide to do an internal purge of the US with force, and AI's absence wouldn't change that. AI doesn't give them any weapon they don't already have in the arsenal of domestic dirty tricks and political agitation/suppression.
 
The AI genie ain't going back in the bottle, so I'd prefer the US make our drone/droid forces as lethal as possible to use against the external enemies.

Because I don't see the powers in DC doing a 'purge' at home with the tech; debanking is far more effective and more PR friendly than purges.

The AI weapons are for the CCP/Russia/Iran/North Korea vs everyone else (including the US) fight that is slowly simmering.

State actors are the real targets of AI, internal dissidents/opposing political groups are already rather vulnerable to plenty of other methods.

Also, push comes to shove, we've already lost if the powers in DC decide to do an internal purge of the US with force, and AI's absence wouldn't change that. AI doesn't give them any weapon they don't already have in the arsenal of domestic dirty tricks and political agitation/suppression.
Tuck the external enemies the US army is given more funds than the next 10 combined it is strong enough to beat stalemate all the other militaries on earth working together. Chasing 20 percent more efficiency is pointless. American citizens are not at risk of Russian invasion or Chinese occupation and taking our rights. The danger to Americans lives and freedoms are coming from inside not outside.
 

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