History The Nazi Bashing Thread.

[TheRomanSlayer]

But national bolsheviks are Nazis though.

NazBols are what if Stalinism and Nazism had a baby together. Not exactly sure what the NazBol stance on race is.

 

[Agent23]

NazBols are what if Stalinism and Nazism had a baby together. Not exactly sure what the NazBol stance on race is.

Actually the NSDAP and Italian Fascism both have their roots in Socialism/Communism, since their founders were at one time socialists/communists.

What they did was to decide that:
1) Private property is not always a bad thing, as long as it furthers the needs of teh volk/state.

2) Corporativism fuck yeah!


3) banning the church and the family and other traditional institutions doesn't work, but they all must be subordinated to the state/nationalist/corporatist good.


3) Global, calssless utopia does not work, so they fell back on nationalism.

 

[Cherico]

Of it is your tribe that is affected you have 2 options, close ranks or get fucked over.

Guess the others chose poorly.

bro its the middle east every one gets fucked over.

 

[ATP]

That’s pretty much the core belief of Judaism.

And that is why orthodox jews are racists who attacks christians in Jeruzalem.

This is quite important and explains a lot about Judaism. It might be a monotheistic, Abrahamic faith, but it comically predates Christianity and Islam. It is a Bronze Age religion belonging to a Bronze Age people that has managed to survive a great deal to still be here. It's why some of their rituals and beliefs seem very strange to us.

True.If you read older parts of Bible,you would see,that it not deny existence of other gods,only claim that Jahwe would beat them all and made his tribe powerpuff.

 

[Allanon]

The problem is that when you check to see which group disproportionately pushes destructive leftism (feminism being the best example) while not practicing it it becomes a case of complaining about being hit after hitting people again and again. The SPLC says only white people can be racist and the media is always pushing this when it isn't deconstructing white heroes or replacing them with diversity.

I'll say it- if I was part of a group kicked out of, hated on, and killed over the span of thousands of years by every single empire, nation, and group it has ever been with I'd have to believe that either the whole human race evolved this weird irrational hostility towards my demographic science cannot possibly explain OR that my demographic is doing something to get everyone mad at me. The Holodomor was the Soviet Union's massacre of 6 to 10 MILLION white Ukrainian Christians during the WW2 era- while we were supporting the Soviet Union and so mass murderers. Who was running the show? Why don't we hear about the Holodomor in spite of the Ukraine being in the news because of Putin's invasion?

If you are jewish think of me as the guy warning you not to drive drunk again. You can either fight me or admit maybe I have a point.

 

[Allanon]

I'm just tired of history going through the same song and dance over and over.

 

[Zachowon]

The holodomr was caused by commies yes.
We bash on commies more then anything on this forum.

 

[Agent23]

The holodomr was caused by commies yes.
We bash on commies more then anything on this forum.

The problem is that when you check to see which group disproportionately pushes destructive leftism (feminism being the best example) while not practicing it it becomes a case of complaining about being hit after hitting people again and again. The SPLC says only white people can be racist and the media is always pushing this when it isn't deconstructing white heroes or replacing them with diversity.

I'll say it- if I was part of a group kicked out of, hated on, and killed over the span of thousands of years by every single empire, nation, and group it has ever been with I'd have to believe that either the whole human race evolved this weird irrational hostility towards my demographic science cannot possibly explain OR that my demographic is doing something to get everyone mad at me. The Holodomor was the Soviet Union's massacre of 6 to 10 MILLION white Ukrainian Christians during the WW2 era- while we were supporting the Soviet Union and so mass murderers. Who was running the show? Why don't we hear about the Holodomor in spite of the Ukraine being in the news because of Putin's invasion?

If you are jewish think of me as the guy warning you not to drive drunk again. You can either fight me or admit maybe I have a point.

Stalin was a Georgian disgruntled ex-seminary student.
Lenin had some Jewish roots, but he was not brought up in the culture and religion.
And the chief of the OGPU of which the NKVD was part was half-Russia and half-Polish.
The boss of the NKVD at the time got purged.
And lots of jews lost their own property and suffered greatly under soviet communism since its very inception, just look at Ayn Rand's family history, the Doctors plot, and so on.


While being a member of an out group, especially one with a religious doctrine that elevates the members above others might disproportionately produce people that would be disproportionately against the broader society that is not really unique or a sign of a broader conspiracy.

And the holodomor was not an ethnic cleansing, but a class one, which is actually worse, since killing off the competent farmers leads to famine and killing off the enterprising parts of the population destroys the economy and dis incentivizes entrepreneurship and hard work.

 

[Zachowon]

Stalin was a Georgian disgruntled ex-seminary student.
Lenin had some Jewish roots, but he was not brought up in the culture and religion.
And the chief of the OGPU of which the NKVD was part was half-Russia and half-Polish.
The boss of the NKVD at the time got purged.
And lots of jews lost their own property and suffered greatly under soviet communism since its very inception, just look at Ayn Rand's family history, the Doctors plot, and so on.


While being a member of an out group, especially one with a religious doctrine that elevates the members above others might disproportionately produce people that would be disproportionately against the broader society that is not really unique or a sign of a broader conspiracy.

And the holodomor was not an ethnic cleansing, but a class one, which is actually worse, since killing off the competent farmers leads to famine and killing off the enterprising parts of the population destroys the economy and dis incentivizes entrepreneurship and hard work.

I see you do pretty good I'm this area.
Yeah, communism nor Naziism was nice to Jews, just in siffrent means

 

[ATP]

I'm just tired of history going through the same song and dance over and over.

Do not worry,after WW3 things could change.I hope.

Stalin was a Georgian disgruntled ex-seminary student.
Lenin had some Jewish roots, but he was not brought up in the culture and religion.
And the chief of the OGPU of which the NKVD was part was half-Russia and half-Polish.
The boss of the NKVD at the time got purged.
And lots of jews lost their own property and suffered greatly under soviet communism since its very inception, just look at Ayn Rand's family history, the Doctors plot, and so on.


While being a member of an out group, especially one with a religious doctrine that elevates the members above others might disproportionately produce people that would be disproportionately against the broader society that is not really unique or a sign of a broader conspiracy.

And the holodomor was not an ethnic cleansing, but a class one, which is actually worse, since killing off the competent farmers leads to famine and killing off the enterprising parts of the population destroys the economy and dis incentivizes entrepreneurship and hard work.

Partially true.And first chief of GPU was Dzierżyński,once polish altar boy.But,after 1934,they were purged,and replaced with other,partially jews.
Poland from 1945 till 1956 was soviet colony ruled by jews.The same goes for Hungary and partially other states.
Yes,Sralin planned to purge them,but they purged him first.

Hołodomor was only part of much bigger farmer killing - in Kazachstan,which under tsars were rich,they murdered 30% of population.In other parts of soviets it was maybe 10%,but still - Hołodomor was not targeting only ukrainians.

 

[Agent23]

Do not worry,after WW3 things could change.I hope.


Partially true.And first chief of GPU was Dzierżyński,once polish altar boy.But,after 1934,they were purged,and replaced with other,partially jews.
Poland from 1945 till 1956 was soviet colony ruled by jews.The same goes for Hungary and partially other states.

Actual jews view the commies who were once jews as degenerates, I believe.
Because communism is exactly that, a failed, phony religion for "intilekshuls", and their opium, as Raymond Aron put it.

Yes,Sralin planned to purge them,but they purged him first.

And the Soviet leadership afterwards kept on repressing them just as much as any other minority or group that did not tow the totalitarian party line.
You really need to look into how the jews were fucked over by quota systems in higher education because of "muh equality" and because they were not the perfect soveks but had ideas about religion and society that differet from Marx's.
Judaism and Communism are mutually exclusive.
Oh, and like all other groups, they were denied the right to move to Israel, jailed for wanting to of there and when they were permitted to under foreign pressure they did so with little more than the clothes on their backs.
All their other assets were expropriated.

Hołodomor was only part of much bigger farmer killing - in Kazachstan,which under tsars were rich,they murdered 30% of population.In other parts of soviets it was maybe 10%,but still - Hołodomor was not targeting only ukrainians.

Yup.

 

[ATP]

Actual jews view the commies who were once jews as degenerates, I believe.
Because communism is exactly that, a failed, phony religion for "intilekshuls", and their opium, as Raymond Aron put it.



And the Soviet leadership afterwards kept on repressing them just as much as any other minority or group that did not tow the totalitarian party line.
You really need to look into how the jews were fucked over by quota systems in higher education because of "muh equality" and because they were not the perfect soveks but had ideas about religion and society that differet from Marx's.
Judaism and Communism are mutually exclusive.
Oh, and like all other groups, they were denied the right to move to Israel, jailed for wanting to of there and when they were permitted to under foreign pressure they did so with little more than the clothes on their backs.
All their other assets were expropriated.

Yup.

1.Partially true - polish Historian,Felix Koneczny,proved,that communism is secular version of jewish cyvilization.
That is why so many jews supported it - becouse it was the same kind of thinking.

2.Communism is judaism without God.Why do you think american jews still support Democrats,when they become rich? all other groups,which become rich,like poles,started vote for Republicans.

3.Yup

 

[willdelve4beer]

1.Partially true - polish Historian,Felix Koneczny,proved,that communism is secular version of jewish cyvilization.
That is why so many jews supported it - becouse it was the same kind of thinking.

2.Communism is judaism without God.Why do you think american jews still support Democrats,when they become rich? all other groups,which become rich,like poles,started vote for Republicans.

3.Yup

Actually, it would be more accurate to call communism a christian heresy, or post christian ideology. Communism takes Plato's autofellation of the chattering classes from The Republic (philosopher kings my hairy arse) kitbashes it with Christian ethical insights on poverty and basic human worth, then strips away the religious context and moral underpinnings, replacing them with a celebration of the sins of envy, hatred, and pride.

 

[Cherico]

The problem is that when you check to see which group disproportionately pushes destructive leftism (feminism being the best example) while not practicing it it becomes a case of complaining about being hit after hitting people again and again. The SPLC says only white people can be racist and the media is always pushing this when it isn't deconstructing white heroes or replacing them with diversity.

I'll say it- if I was part of a group kicked out of, hated on, and killed over the span of thousands of years by every single empire, nation, and group it has ever been with I'd have to believe that either the whole human race evolved this weird irrational hostility towards my demographic science cannot possibly explain OR that my demographic is doing something to get everyone mad at me. The Holodomor was the Soviet Union's massacre of 6 to 10 MILLION white Ukrainian Christians during the WW2 era- while we were supporting the Soviet Union and so mass murderers. Who was running the show? Why don't we hear about the Holodomor in spite of the Ukraine being in the news because of Putin's invasion?

If you are jewish think of me as the guy warning you not to drive drunk again. You can either fight me or admit maybe I have a point.

Our community is a middle man minority, all middle man minoritys get shit on. Were actually not unusual in that.

Actually, it would be more accurate to call communism a christian heresy, or post christian ideology. Communism takes Plato's autofellation of the chattering classes from The Republic (philosopher kings my hairy arse) kitbashes it with Christian ethical insights on poverty and basic human worth, then strips away the religious context and moral underpinnings, replacing them with a celebration of the sins of envy, hatred, and pride.

Communism is the worst religion ever.

 

[Allanon]

As a white guy I have been guilt tripped endlessly.

This ignores the fact that Jews, Blacks, American Indians, East Indians, and EVERY OTHER HUMAN DEMOGRAPHIC have been guilty of the same things. Don't even get me started on things like animal cruelty and environmental destruction.

I'm just tired of it, and being banned when I say anything about it. That this hasn't happened here is a huge surprise to me. Maybe I'm just a bit less black pilled today.

Incidently, things got bad for Jews in the Soviet Union AFTER Stalin (the golem) turned on them. If it had been bad before, during the Second World War, why don't we hear about it the way we do with what happened in Nazi Germany? Before that the Soviet Union was praised, and we supported it, only to be stabbed in the back over and over for decades. Those Soviet lowlifes were allied with Nazi Germany when my mother's homeland, The Netherlands, was overrun by Nazi Germany and suffered years of misery and death, including the Starvation Winter of 1944-1945. Had the Dutch not held off the invaders for those precious days, giving England time to strengthen her defenses, the outcome of that war might have been quite different. Remember England was a base of operations for America as well. It is interesting to note that pound for pound the Dutch were superior fighters to the Soviets.


Cherico, it's not that. That's ignoring your own part in it, how has THAT turned out over the centuries? The problem is what I've described. Feminism- if you were on a game show and for five million dollars had to name six prominent feminists what kind of names would they be? Hint- not Japanese Buddhists. Western nations are told to have open borders while Israel does the exact opposite. George Soros- well, what more needs to be said. The media and Hollywood pushes political correctness and hatred of my demographic, including ruining or replacing white male heroes (and to a lesser degree female ones- look at She-Ra and Wonder Woman, or even She-Hulk, whom on television is hardly the popular and well-written Jennifer Walters version). Who runs them? The SPLC says only I can be racist.

I'm the guy warning you that the same behavior that has gotten you beat up in all of the other bars is happening again. You can choose to stop blaming everyone else and face it, thus averting an inevitable time of misery and destruction, or just go on the same way (same song and dance). If I can't prevent something what makes you think I can stop it? Have you ever stood up for me against the white male bashing?

Ah, what's the use. Maybe we are just recycled which is why human history is always the same thing over and over.

 

[Cherico]

while I don't think its fair that you are being guilt tripped, and that it is bullshit.

Things in the community are more complex then all of us being leftists, its often the case that those of us in the woke camp are people who are pretty much only jewish by ethnicity, and more or less are athiest in action and thought.

Turning politics into religion is always a bad idea, religion should be your religion and politics something else entirely. That is the flaw of wokists in general though in turning away from their native faiths they have embraced a far worse one.

 

[Allanon]

It doesn't matter if you are not all leftists- I never said that you were. But what I said about leftism is true, and if YOU and other Jews won't speak up then what else can one think? It is such now that just for posting these things I can be damned as "anti-semetic," so obviously the only ones who can speak out against this safely are other Jews. How would you feel if neo-Nazism, the real thing, was on the rise, hurting you, and I did nothing? What would you think of me?

 

[Cherico]

It doesn't matter if you are not all leftists- I never said that you were. But what I said about leftism is true, and if YOU and other Jews won't speak up then what else can one think? It is such now that just for posting these things I can be damned as "anti-semetic," so obviously the only ones who can speak out against this safely are other Jews. How would you feel if neo-Nazism, the real thing, was on the rise, hurting you, and I did nothing? What would you think of me?

We do Ben Sharpiro is a member of the community, and there are other right wing jews.

And the fact is the left is hardly found of the jewish community, or any religious group or anything that takes attention away from themselves...

Really not a fan of socialists in general man like really not a fan.

 

[Lord Sovereign]

As ever, parts of the Right don’t stop to consider just how toxic this topic is. The Final Solution looms large in the minds of men and there’s not much that can be done to change that. Anything that sounds remotely anti-Semitic is immediately linked to the Third Reich and the onus is on the person bringing up those points to prove they aren’t sympathetic to that worldview.

That aside, Jewish behaviour, good and bad, can be explained by historical circumstance without need to resort to conspiracy theories or “noticing things” as some like to say (cherry picking, I say).

The Jews are a people, a nation, and thus not entirely united in view. In fact given that any congregation of Rabbi may descend into a football riot at any given moment, there’s a lot of disagreement.

 

[Allanon]

But that is a tiny minority, and does he actually speak out about the Jewish presence in many left-wing movements? Does he speak against George Soros, Gloria Steinman, Barbara Lerner Spectre, and such? It is not enough to speak against leftism in general, if it was specifically straight white guys in that Neo-Nazi movement wouldn't you expect me to do more than just say "hey that sucks?"

The left, the modern left, is simply the golem run amok again.