United States The Left Can't Meme

[Zachowon]

I think the problem is that Wokism doesn't know what it is or what it wants.

fo example, I there was this meme with Spider-man and bonesaw where when Spider-man says "Nice outfit did your husband make that for you?" Bonesaw goes into this paragraph long lecture about how he was on "The wrong side of History.TM" and Spider-Man is left in a stunned silence.

All you have to do is change it to.

Nice outfit did your husband make that for you?"

"Yes, yes he did."

"Oh....cool."

but Wokism doesn't seem to be ok with that. it's not enough to be peaceable with others they have to lecture you at all times about how not only are they right but they are superior to you, it's like the physically weak abusive spouse. Since they can't phisically beat you into submission, to make themselves feel higher, they have to resort to Verble tactics.

 

[Zyobot]

... Is this a meme, or is this a Woke dissertation with images?!

 

[Bear Ribs]

Here's an interesting one. This is an entire Reddit dedicated entirely to taking Stonetoss comics and editing them to be woke and support Antifa.

Here's the original Stonetoss comic:

The Woke edition:


Now for starters they basically deleted the entire punchline and point so the Woke version is extremely meh. But the real hilarity is the comments. Gotta be seen to be believed, it's an endless stack of hate and vitriol directed at the worker in the comic. So basically they edited the original to show how much more enlightened they were, then proceeded to act exactly like the guy in the original proving Stonetoss's entire point was correct.

 

[Zyobot]

Here's an interesting one. This is an entire Reddit dedicated entirely to taking Stonetoss comics and editing them to be woke and support Antifa.

Here's the original Stonetoss comic:

The Woke edition:


Now for starters they basically deleted the entire punchline and point so the Woke version is extremely meh. But the real hilarity is the comments. Gotta be seen to be believed, it's an endless stack of hate and vitriol directed at the worker in the comic. So basically they edited the original to show how much more enlightened they were, then proceeded to act exactly like the guy in the original proving Stonetoss's entire point was correct.

Show of hands: who else wonders if non-Woke meme-makers lay traps to get a rise out of the Left, so that they can make them look bad and bait them into proving how silly they are? I wouldn't go so far as to say "glowies" are behind it, but even so, trolling is a well-established pastime for the terminally online. (Even though, yes, the Woke are inept at meme-making as ever, regardless.)

 

[Terthna]

I think the problem is that Wokism doesn't know what it is or what it wants.

It knows what it wants all right; it's just that what it wants is so obviously monstrous, that it has to pretend to be something it isn't in order to trick people into giving it to them.

 

[Scottty]

So, question I’ve had for a while: if you had a critical mass of “non-Left” meme-makers who defected to the Left en masse, would they bring their meme-ing skills with them, or would they lose those in the process of going Woke?

Not going to happen. For reasons I'll try to explain below.

Granted, maybe that’s happened before and I just wasn’t paying attention, but I think it’s worth asking whether the majority of left-wingers don’t get it, as is, or whether Wokeness itself just isn’t meme-able.

The "Left" is a broad spectrum, including people who genuinely think they are making the world a better place, as well as others who, as I've seen it put, just want to knock over apple-carts and grab some of the apples.

But the SJW or "Woke" types? They seem to be a specific sort of people: self-righteous, censorious, over-serious, and dependent for their emotional validation on being able to find someone to denounce and condemn as evil.
They are also, I suspect, largely verbal thinkers. Notice how the choice of words used to describe something seems to them to be more important than the reality itself? Almost as if the verbal description was more real to them?

Now, as we know, "a picture is worth a thousand words" - to a person who thinks in pictures. So the Right does put lots of info in a meme - it's in the image itself, and absorbed immediately and non-verbally. We know what is meant without needing a wordy description of it.
The other side can't do that. Their minds don't work that way.

Of equal importance: good memes are funny. They stick in the mind by getting you to laugh.
Over-serious, humorless people cannot meme, because they cannot tell a good joke. Because they cannot relax and laugh.

 

[Zyobot]

It knows what it wants all right; it's just that what it wants is so obviously monstrous, that it has to pretend to be something it isn't in order to trick people into giving it to them.

Which is what, exactly? I’ve no doubt there are lots of Antifa types and future Jim Jones expies among the Woke, but I’m not getting at whatever deranged fantasies you’re hinting at here. (The elites whose payroll the Woke are on is a different story, however.)

 

[Terthna]

Which is what, exactly? I’ve no doubt there are lots of Antifa types and future Jim Jones expies among the Woke, but I’m not getting at whatever deranged fantasies you’re hinting at here. (The elites whose payroll the Woke are on is a different story, however.)

Power. The power to dictate to others how they are to live their lives. The power to foist the blame for everything that's gone wrong in their own lives on someone they hate for one petty reason or another, whom they can then punish and extract reparations from. The power to hurt people without having to worry about the consequences, and getting to feel like heroes while doing so.

 

[Zyobot]

Power. The power to dictate to others how they are to live their lives. The power to foist the blame for everything that's gone wrong in their own lives on someone they hate for one petty reason or another, whom they can then punish and extract reparations from. The power to hurt people without having to worry about the consequences, and getting to feel like heroes while doing so.

Well… the Left does have a tendency to blame its history of mistakes on everyone but themselves, even before “Wokeness” in its current form became a thing. (e.g.: The state of Democrat-run cities over the past few decades.)

But in any case, I don’t suppose there’s a logic endpoint to all this? Which is to say, a final (and honestly, pretty disturbing) objective the Ibram X. Kendi types are striving towards, and have let show via Freudian slip and hot mic every so often?

 

[Duke Nukem]

This is advanced stages of cope

 

[Cherico]

This is advanced stages of cope

if thats the case why is their suicide rate higher then cis men?

 

[Typhonis]

if thats the case why is their suicide rate higher then cis men?

Shhhh that's fake news and you know it. Can't let the plebes know the truth.

 

[PsihoKekec]

 

[Zyobot]

So, all the farmers, peasants, and working-class people who got their assets seized, their asses deported to Siberia, and their temples blown out by the firing squads this stupid twit probably fantasizes about being a member of someday are "slavers and exploiters"? Got it!

 

[Cherico]

So, all the farmers, peasants, and working-class people who got their assets seized, their asses deported to Siberia, and their temples blown out by the firing squads this stupid twit probably fantasizes about being a member of someday are "slavers and exploiters"? Got it!

This what communists actually belive, they do not see their enemies as human beings and are willing to do horrifically evil things in the name of a utopia that will never happen.

I thought you knew this.

 

[Zyobot]

This what communists actually belive, they do not see their enemies as human beings and are willing to do horrifically evil things in the name of a utopia that will never happen.

I thought you knew this.

Yeah, but part of me honestly thought most of the "rank-and-file" accomplices believed there were doing bad things for what were ultimately "humanitarian" reasons. Reasons that boiled down to a utopian wishlist and stupidly uni-directional reading of history, for sure, but reasons nonetheless. (Although, even if the whole "workers' paradise" delusion were true, that still wouldn't make piling up mountains of corpses and just generally treating people as either "assets to the cause" or "speed bumps on the way there" instead of actual human beings okay.)

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Anyway, something else I forgot to point out was how if you swapped out the keywords in this guy's post to bash Holocaust survivors as "financiers and fifth columns" who deserve to "suffer under Nazism"... odds are you'd get your account shut down (and lots of people jumping down your throat in the meantime) for posting that. If nothing else, cracking down on Nazi apologia while letting communist apologia slide only emboldens those who tend to the latter, even ignoring the "political bias" side of things.)

 

[Cherico]

Yeah, but part of me honestly thought most of the "rank-and-file" accomplices believed there were doing bad things for what were ultimately "humanitarian" reasons. Reasons that boiled down to a utopian wishlist and stupidly uni-directional reading of history, for sure, but reasons nonetheless.

(Although, even if the whole "workers' paradise" delusion were true, that still wouldn't make piling up mountains of corpses and just generally treating people as either "assets to the cause" or "speed bumps on the way there" instead of actual human beings okay.)

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Anyway, something else I forgot to point out was how if you swapped out the keywords in this guy's post to bash Holocaust survivors as "financiers and fifth columns" who deserve to "suffer under Nazism"... odds are you'd get your account shut down (and lots of people jumping down your throat in the meantime) for posting that. If nothing else, cracking down on Nazi apologia while letting communist apologia slide only emboldens those who tend to the latter, even ignoring the "political bias" side of things.)

Over a 100 million people died all over the world, the experiement has been run mulitple times all over the place if some one is an acctual communist in the modern era its because their evil.

 

[Zyobot]

Over a 100 million people died all over the world, the experiement has been run mulitple times all over the place if some one is an acctual communist in the modern era its because their evil.

That, or horribly delusional. Nonetheless, I still wouldn't associate with "well-intentioned" people who want to try communism "Just one more time!", seeing as anyone who ignores the mountains of evidence (and even taller mountains of corpses) pointing to how it doesn't work is probably a lost cause, anyway.

At any rate, even if they got their way, I've a feeling all the anticommunist insurgents, conservative blue-collar people, farmers' unwillingness to surrender their farms, and need to dissuade "future resistance" when securing control over the nation would force them to adopt more and more repressive means until all their opposition has been crushed... only for them to go "Aww, fuck!" as they realize they either went full Stalinist or turned the country into a gigantic CHAZ that'll burn itself out within a generation, just moments before receiving a knock on the door from the People's Bureau of Investigation and never being seen or heard from again.

 

[Cherico]

That, or horribly delusional. Nonetheless, I still wouldn't associate with "well-intentioned" people who want to try communism "just one more time!", seeing as anyone who ignores the mountains of evidence (and even taller mountains of corpses) pointing to how it doesn't work is probably a lost cause, anyway.

At any rate, even if they got their way, I've a feeling all the anticommunist insurgents, conservative blue-collar people, farmers' unwillingness to surrender their farms, and need to dissuade "future resistance" when securing control over the nation would force them to adopt more and more repressive means until all their opposition has been crushed... only for them to go "Aww, fuck!" as they realize they either went full Stalinist or turned the country into a gigantic CHAZ that'll burn itself out within a generation, just moments before receiving a knock on the door from the People's Bureau of Investigation and never being seen or heard from again.

they wont care the whole point is to make other people suffer its sadism. Any one with actual good intentions left the movement 30 fucking years ago because of the pile of evidence.

 

[Zyobot]

they wont care the whole point is to make other people suffer its sadism. Any one with actual good intentions left the movement 30 fucking years ago because of the pile of evidence.

Then I pity those who've either stayed or joined, since then.

Ultimately, I'm glad the US isn't the best place for another Lenin, Stalin, or Mao to take power (in large part because that'd actually endanger elites who have inept gaggles of far-leftists on their payroll), but there are times when I wonder if giving them a country to take over and run into the ground as communists do would force the remaining ideologues to confront reality. Nothing's worth handing America over to these lunatics, of course, but it'd still be nice to make them shut up and go away forever at a much more "reasonable" price than that.