Election 2020 The Ballad of Bernie Sanders: The 21st Century McGovern Saga

Heh, honestly I think continuing from The Original Sixth points

Sure, maybe the DNC and many other Far Left types knows deep down that Trump is probably gonna win

Thing is, they will all probably insist on the fantasy that living under Trump is pure HELL

They tried that. It hasn't worked liked they hope.

Between 2017 and 2018, Trump was at his weakest point. Between alleged scandals and incompetence, Trump was looking weak. And then you have Trump's constant attacks on the international system convincing people that we were going to start World War III or that Trump would destroy the world economy and thus the US economy. Or that we had concentration camps down by the US border.

Those scares have been spent. Instead we have a strong economy and the growing instability across the world is not affecting the US.

One of the fronts where this will be most evident is not just in the News Media but also Entertainment.

They will be full of people trying to make fun of or show and educate people about how crappy the world is and blame it all on Trump

That also won't work.

There's a reason the media likes to sway the youth vote; because the youth does not remember what came before. The kids who are turning 18 in 2020? They were 14 in 2016. Their memories of what happened, how, and why are very dim because most of them were busy being kids. And those kids who were 14 in 2016 won't remember what happened in 2012 because they were 10 fucking years old.

Meanwhile, compare that to me. I'm going to be 32 in 2020. I remember clearly what happened in 2016 because I was 28. And I remember somewhat less clearly but more so what happened in 2012 because I was 24. And I remember to very dim degree what happened in 2008 because I was 20. With every election my political awareness grew. And with every person who holds office, I am able to compare it to those who came before the last.

Right now, the two major voting forces are the Boomers and the Millennials. Going after Gen Z, who is more likely to not know what to do and least likely to participate is not a winning strategy. Using comedians and media blitzes to push a narrative doesn't work so well on people after the fourth time they've seen you do it.

and the guys who voted for him or remotely leaned Right even economically and depict them all as mega pure evil

Which only ensures that Trump wins. Trump won because he appealed to the Foundry of the US; those areas that had a lot of industrial jobs that were sold overseas. Trump's trade wars are a major boon to these areas. The Foundry areas composes roughly half of Yankeedom and the Midlands--the same areas that went from blue to red in 2016 as it so happens.

This is the problem the DNC has; the moderates still want the international globalist system because it provides cheap labor. The Foundry wants protectionism because they want to eat and sleep in a house.
 
The average voter is not worried about grandiose political concepts and overarching ideology. They are worried about food, safety, money and stability.

Trump has provided all of these with the addition of prestige. Trump has become something of a punching bag for Hollywood and poweful elites. It's like they forgot how much America likes underdogs.

To the average votar, keeping Trump is much easier and safer than changing course.
 
Trump has become something of a punching bag for Hollywood and poweful elites. It's like they forgot how much America likes underdogs.

They haven’t forgotten the love for the underdog.

Thing is, the term underdog when it comes to depictions in entertainment tends to be rather uniform

Same for the oppressor, you will rarely get a totalitarian government that acts like the highly centralised social-democrat ones in fiction like that Freehold series

The oppressor is supposed to thrive in an Open Market, you’re supposed to vote for your saviors who will increase taxation and regulation and make the economy more planned and give you everything

Which only ensures that Trump wins. Trump won because he appealed to the Foundry of the US; those areas that had a lot of industrial jobs that were sold overseas. Trump's trade wars are a major boon to these areas. The Foundry areas composes roughly half of Yankeedom and the Midlands--the same areas that went from blue to red in 2016 as it so happens.

This is the problem the DNC has; the moderates still want the international globalist system because it provides cheap labor. The Foundry wants protectionism because they want to eat and sleep in a house.

I think you’re referring to the strange bed partners of the working class and their bosses, which going by most media I see from Hollywood is supposed to be incompatible and almost a master-slave relationship. And I am pretty sure most people believe Hollywood

I still think you are underestimating indoctrination via Entertainment

Also, don’t forget, academia both in colleges and public schooling are dominated by the Left

Unless students and parents are having problems with their teachers and the school curriculums and policies en masse, you have another generation who will screw things over after Trump’s term that will go on about how evil the country is and hate on the free market

You may even get an increase in Trans-But-Not-Really’s alongside demands to increase college spending and forgive debts for the guys with useless non-STEM courses
 
I was hoping for an actual ballad here.

Bern, the man they call Bern
He robbed from the rich and he gave to the poor
Stood up to Clintons ‘till they showed him what for
He’ll give us some handouts that we didn’t earn
The commie from Vermont
The man they call Bern!

Our Bern saw the students’ debts climbin’
The wealthy they did resent
He said DC should be takin’
Every dollar and leavin‘ five cents
He said you can’t do this to the students
For college they just shouldn’t pay
So Bern will use his pen
And in a year or ten
Tax payers make all that debt go away!

He robbed from the rich and he gave to the poor
Stood up to Clintons ‘till they showed him what for
He’ll give us some handouts that we didn’t earn
The commie from Vermont
The man they call Bern!

Now here’s what separates Democratic Socialists
From guys like Stalin and Che
The man they call Bern
He will wait his turn
For after election day
He’ll tax us out of our houses
He’ll worsen all of our plights
The man they call Bern
He’ll make us all yearn
For a leader further to the right!

He robbed from the rich and he gave to the poor
Stood up to Clintons ‘till they showed him what for
He’ll give us some handouts that we didn’t earn
The commie from Vermont
The man they call Bern!
 
Oh boy, I got permabanned for something like 10% of your badthink and that was years ago, I hear it's much worse now.

Let me put it this way: I got kicked for a week before the ban for "Misogyny" on the ASB forums. I told someone that the women in the US Military did not behave like tumblr SJWs as that sort of person can't exist in that enviroment.
 
Let me put it this way: I got kicked for a week before the ban for "Misogyny" on the ASB forums. I told someone that the women in the US Military did not behave like tumblr SJWs as that sort of person can't exist in that enviroment.

Actually they can right until they meet a female officer who's trying to get promoted.

Then they absolutely get destroyed.
 
I think you’re referring to the strange bed partners of the working class and their bosses, which going by most media I see from Hollywood is supposed to be incompatible and almost a master-slave relationship. And I am pretty sure most people believe Hollywood

I still think you are underestimating indoctrination via Entertainment

I don't think I am.

First, the Foundry area of the country does not buy into that belief. The reason is this; they were told that they would not all lose their jobs and those that did would get better jobs for equal or higher pay and more benefits. That turned out to be a farce. The industrial sector in the Foundry was basically dissolved overnight and no one wants to fucking send lots of white collar jobs to an area they think is full of uneducated hicks. Especially when you can outsource things like call centers overseas to India for what amounts to a near slave labor force. Or China, where they have an actual slave labor force.

And what was the response when the Foundry complained to DC about their loss of jobs and homes? The media told 30-50 year old men to "learn to code, lol!" and proceeded to enrich themselves through near or literal slave labor at the cost of their countrymen. And more and more, people began to link the globalists and the media as one entity. This sort of stuff started on Fox News, but now it's basically common knowledge. Very much so during 2016, when the Media came out in full force for Clinton and afterwards launched attack after attack upon the Foundry's populist leader.

There's a reason why Star Trek and Star Wars is failing. There's a reason why the next phase of Marvel will likely fail. Because more and more, these ideological beliefs are being shoehorned in not only just at the cost of good writing, but at the expense of the large chunks of the country that they hope to defeat. But because most people in the Media, especially Hollywood, fail to grasp that the US isn't split between Republican and Democrat that can easily be reprogrammed if bombarded enough, but rather these are strong dominate cultures that act closer to a hive mind who are now feeling under attack by these same movies and TV shows.

Bombarding a kid with TV shows does work. Bombarding an adult with TV shows works less. And the Millennials are actually young enough to remember when they weren't constantly bombarded and the lessons of their elders and the culture they grew up in--which because of social and economic decisions, have disintegrated right before their eyes. There's a reason why people were flocking to old franchises. It wasn't because they didn't want to watch new things; it's because the new things weren't reaching them and because the old reminded them of a time when things were better. Part of that is rose-tinted glasses, but it is also part truth.

Hollywood tried to use those rebooted series, both to appeal to adults and their children. And instead they've produced disaster after disaster that the adults cannot stomach.

Also, don’t forget, academia both in colleges and public schooling are dominated by the Left

You've grown too old.

No one gives a shit what their teacher in public schools thought. Getting a social or cultural lesson by the teacher unless so obviously past a line is generally something kids roll their eyes at. Why? Because they already have parents who lecture them. And sure, you have kids who are so intent on being seen as following the rules that they immediately bend to authority figures, but those same kids also have parents.

The real threat was the colleges. Because in the early 2000s, the consensus among the adults was that the only way forward was to go to college. Add in a massive political and media blitz to push that and college became a sort of holy rite of passage for all young adults to experience and enjoy. Professors were put upon pedestals that was given to them by the rest of society. The children followed suit.

I don't think that is the case with Gen Z. Gen Z grew up with people going to college as normal as we all grew up going to public school. And in fact, with the abuses and flaws of those same colleges having long been discovered and discussed, many younger students are not seeing them as utopias, but rather as hoops they have to jump through. The shine is gone and Gen Z is keenly aware that if you fuck up your college courses, you've just wasted lots of money.

The universities have failed to bring the social and economical changes they promised. They will not be given that sort of glory and power for decades, possibly centuries--if ever again.

You may even get an increase in Trans-But-Not-Really’s alongside demands to increase college spending and forgive debts for the guys with useless non-STEM courses

You will get that demand, but those demands may not be accepted. Not all of Millennials are going to accept the idea that their fellows who went to college and failed should get their debts forgiven. Especially if they never went and they RL debts from raising kids or investing in their own business. And the Boomers are not going to generally help check that because of the economic damage it would do, along with Gen X. And the people in charge will be advised not to because of the massive economic damage it would do.

You might have a scheme put into motion to ease the burden or my personal favorite; deem the colleges responsible for their sketchy and shitty behavior. Of course, that would destroy most colleges across the entire country.
 
The average voter is not worried about grandiose political concepts and overarching ideology. They are worried about food, safety, money and stability.

Trump has provided all of these with the addition of prestige. Trump has become something of a punching bag for Hollywood and poweful elites. It's like they forgot how much America likes underdogs.

To the average votar, keeping Trump is much easier and safer than changing course.
I would argue that a strong percentage of the voting public vote out of pure tribalism. "There's a D next to the name, so I'm voting for it".
 
@The Original Sixth
Honestly, I kept thinking there was a problem of people being too stupid, not economically educated, easily forgetful and could be indoctrinated if their exposure to outside ideas' limited

Wait, the Western-Leftist Media was the first to use "LearnToCode" on people and not trolls doing it to Journalists? WTF

Also, flocking to old franchises? They're doing that? Link to any articles regarding that?

You know, speaking of Marvel, I've heard that sales went up.....for comics or volumes or collections of stuff BEFORE the 2010s and even before the 21st century
 
Wait, the Western-Leftist Media was the first to use "LearnToCode" on people and not trolls doing it to Journalists? WTF

The way I know it, around 2015(IIRC) there was a surge of articles about Appalachian miners learning programming(or "learning to code") in order to get reinserted in the "New Economy". The overall tone of the articles was that their traditional jobs were gone, and their only way to get a job was learning to code. People(by which I mean the usual suspects) in social media may have been more direct and shoved the "learn to code" phrase on people's faces whenever there was a complaint about the loss of traditional jobs in Appalachia and Middle America in general.

Unfortunately for those, what goes around, comes around, and when journalists started getting laid off in numbers and complaining about it in social media, they got "learn to code" as an answer...
 
You know, I wonder just how well would Bernie and all his supporters actually deal with meeting these Foundry-People supporting Trump

If they had to spend an entire day with them and try talking to them
 
You know, I wonder just how well would Bernie and all his supporters actually deal with meeting these Foundry-People supporting Trump

If they had to spend an entire day with them and try talking to them

Weirdly enough probally better than a legit SJW, their going to at first be condencending as fuck but the economic issues are enough were they would be able to at least talk civiliy. While an SJW doesn't even consider these people to be human and would likely physically attack them.
 
Weirdly enough probally better than a legit SJW, their going to at first be condencending as fuck but the economic issues are enough were they would be able to at least talk civiliy. While an SJW doesn't even consider these people to be human and would likely physically attack them.
And likely get the crap kicked out of them for trying...

Edit: up yours, autocorrect!
 
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Weirdly enough probally better than a legit SJW, their going to at first be condencending as fuck but the economic issues are enough were they would be able to at least talk civiliy. While an SJW doesn't even consider these people to be human and would likely physically attack them.
And likely get the crap likes out of them for trying...

It may help that Bernie’s guys maybe more about economic class than a mix of “they are cishet privelaged white males and rednecks”
 
So my opinion on the matter the Original sixth might disagree.


Calfornia as a state is going to go all in on this election, why because the state is insolvent.

One of the reasons is that we promised our public workers generous benifits and in fact over promised so yeah we cant pay that off. Another is that the environmentalists have managed to completely fuck most of our industry and are hard at work destroying our last nuclear power plant and trying their best to chase the oil companies out of the state. Hollywood is turning out shittier movies which are not selling as well, and the tech industry has made the mistake of going from too dangerous to fuck with to to dangerous to let live.

Google, face book their all going to have a nasty reconing, on top of that we were so convinced that tech would pay for all the things that we chased a whole lot of business out of the state. It of course doesnt help that the rest of the country is throwing oil on the fire by giving their homeless a one way bus ticket to our state putting the burden all on us.

Quite simply put california is insolvent it doesnt have the money or resources to pay the crippling bills that are coming due. Either we default, go bankrupt or we get bailed out by the rest of the country. In no situation does the current gravy train continue on.

Cali's ideal outcome is a bail out, the rest of the country saves our stupid asses and we continue on. The next best option is bankrupcy. Right now states are not allowed to declare bankrupcy but that rule could be changed if we had a friendly president and congress. It completely and utterally fucks the retiries who get pennies on the dollar but its an option. Next is simply defaulting on our debts.

That would piss off a lot of people and would have very bad coquences for us as a state but its possible the last and worst option for us is the federal government tells us to go fuck ourselves and forces us to pay for all of our obligations. That means that all of our soical programs go poof.

Because theirs no money.

So as a state we are going all in on 2020 because if it all explodes between 2020 and 2024 and the federal government hates us thats means the collapse will be even worse.

So whats the plan in a worst case senero?

Quite simply put, I think its this.

OIP.Nw4och-y4dqkdq1DIA6XygHaEK


Meet you new scapegoat.

Remember Metoo? That was when the SJW left in California broke the deal.

You see Hollywood La has been a nest of hedonism and depactury since the damned 20s. The deal Hollywood had with the social justice crowd was this. We will pay you protection money and you will leave us alone and let us continue to do shady things behind the scenes.

The social justice crowd broke that deal, they went after long time donors and destroyed careers not for any grand plan but to get 15 minutes of fame. This quickly spiraled out of control into a witch hunt that quite frankly fucking terrified California's business democrats.

Now their angry, their not going to strike now of course but if shit hits the fan this is what is going to happen. The business democrats, the technocrats, the unions their going to blame every thing on the Social justice crowd and then let them be murdered by angry fucking mobs.

Then the state will turn Red and get on their knees and beg for help or at least to be allowed to declare bankruptcy. In the aftermath of this the remaining tax payers the ones who stayed will have more power.
 
Now their angry, their not going to strike now of course but if shit hits the fan this is what is going to happen. The business democrats, the technocrats, the unions their going to blame every thing on the Social justice crowd and then let them be murdered by angry fucking mobs.

Then the state will turn Red and get on their knees and beg for help or at least to be allowed to declare bankruptcy. In the aftermath of this the remaining tax payers the ones who stayed will have more power.

I don’t think Hollywood and Entertainment Media would turn on the PC Crowd.

They’re all too indoctrinated by them, they’ve been given too high positions and dominated circles for creators like in Marvel comics

Businessmen coddle them and turn the other way when they make things go broke, perhaps in the hopes that they become a new trend bought en masse
 

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