Anime & Manga Teh CX Anime Review Thread

Terthna

Professional Lurker
My problem with Code Geass is that the entire plot is driven by asspull after asspull.

I would've been really interested to see Lelouch trying to build up and maintain a resistance against the Empire with only the mind control geass he was given at the beginning, and seeing Suzaku's long term struggle to change Empire society from within by setting an example and promoting cultural changes.

Americans romanticize revolutions, but the reality is that the vast majority of revolutions fail, and if they succeed they usually only end up replacing and acting like (if not worse) than the very government they sought to overthrow.

Against the empire, Lelouch had pretty much no hope of winning given it's sheer resources and built up war machine. Thus, in order to win, the writers had to constantly contrive situations where things go miraculously in Lelouch's favor (ie, CC dressing up as Zero to distract Cornelia from busting Lelouch at the last second, or the Black Knights setting up on a hill that was convenietly ready for a landslide, etc). The writers have to constantly give Lelouch magic plot mcguffins. The writers have to constantly make the enemy commanders unbelievably incompetent or lack basic foresight, not even bothering to consult their advisers. Also, lots of moments of stupidity, like "I recorded a 5 minute long video where I had a conversation with you and predicted everything you would say". Etc.

The real stinker is episode 22. Episode 22 posed a ntural conclusion for the story: everyone gets what they wanted, not by violence, not by contrivance, but by people actually being reasonable and talking out their problems to each other. But the show had to go on, so the writers contrived one the worst diablous ex machinas I had ever seen to keep the plot going.


Awful plot aside, the rest of the show is otherwise pretty good. The show looks great (for an anime made after the move from cellular to digital). It also helps it was produced by Studio Sunrise, which is to this day pretty much the only anime studio left that has animators who can actually draw 2D mecha and vehicles, rather than just substituting 3D CGI for them. The Brittanians are entertaining. Lots of fun comedy. Good opening song. Soundtrack is decent. I agree with the overall 7/10 (good) rating for the show. I wouldn't recommend watching past season 1. I would strongly recommend against watching the Akito movies, which were even worse.
The only good thing to come out of Code Geass was the Nightmare of Nunnally spinoff manga; the show itself isn't worth anyone's time, unless they happen to enjoy contrived melodrama peppered with pointless action sequences.
 

prinCZess

Warrior, Writer, Performer, Perv
Disclaimer: Seen maybe a dozen episodes total across both seasons

Code Geass seemed to me like it was...Convoluted and confused-with-itself? Like, it gave a solid try to using Mechs as a somewhat-more background thing for a change to instead try and focus on conspiracy and characters and their relationships as the driving force, and while it kind of works...Mucho Mech stuff and their Big Battles and Big Missiles and Big Superpowery Bits gets included (super-special Mechs for super-special characters and-all), superpowers make the conspiracy or command bits rather more frustrating in general, it gets sidetracked by teenager shenanigans and...masturbation (missed that episode...thankfully. Tables not high on my list of fetishes), and judging by the 'Wut.' reaction a friend of mine had watching the Big Reveal of the Emperor and backstory around...green-haired snarky witch-bitch...It kind of lost the plot somewhere along the way?

Second season seemed like it resorted to more convoluted-ness to solve earlier convoluted-ness, and became character's eye-twitching or widening theater as convoluted plans were foiled by opposing convoluted plans but then rescued by rapid adaptation of a NEW convoluted plan--and repeat.
I could see what got people interested, but seeing how ill-regarded the second season was and looked to me gave it a mark against in my book, and it just never drew me in enough to convince me to watch the whole thing. 'Show that tried some new things and did some well while resorting to cliche-crutches in other parts' seemed the general gist of it to me.

Though it does get the, bizarre, credit of having gotten itself some Pizza Hut funding/sponsorship. So there's odd product-placement...
Because when you think Pizza Hut, you naturally think mind-controlling teenage royalty waging a terroristic jihad against future-Britain-that-was-exiled-to-America?
 

Lord Sovereign

The resident Britbong
One of the things that got my noggin joggin about Geass was how studio sunrise made an Anglosphere empire commit the atrocities of Imperial Japan. It comes off a bit as "pot meet kettle."
 

ATP

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Crest of the Stars /13 episodes/and Banner of the stars /10 and 13,i think/- good space opera with romance in second place.Logical made space states,making war for logical reasons.
And not any trace of harem,or making MC superheroes - they are just average officers doing their job.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
One of the things that got my noggin joggin about Geass was how studio sunrise made an Anglosphere empire commit the atrocities of Imperial Japan. It comes off a bit as "pot meet kettle."
I think that was done intentionally as kind of an irony. At least I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere, that it wasn't so much about who was committing the atrocities so much as Japan was having done to it what it had done to others.

Crest of the Stars /13 episodes/and Banner of the stars /10 and 13,i think/- good space opera with romance in second place.Logical made space states,making war for logical reasons.
And not any trace of harem,or making MC superheroes - they are just average officers doing their job.
Haven't gotten around to watching those yet, but they are on my massive list of things to watch. ;)
 

Captain X

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Osaul
E's Otherwise
(26 episode series)

This was one of the most boring and pointless series I ever bothered to watch all the way through. It is entirely my own fault that I did, though. I can't even really explain why, either, other than being mildly interested in what the big evil secret plan was, and the continued hope that things might pick up and that something important might happen. It pretty much takes more than half the series for that, though.

The series takes place in a kind of dystopic future that is run entirely by competing mega-corporations, which almost seems like something out of the '80s. It follows Kai Kudou, a psychic who works for ASHURUM, one of the twelve mega-corporations I mentioned. The term "psychics" is used a bit more loosely here to mean anyone who is either telepathic or who can use telekinetics, which is apparently way more common here. Of course they also tend to be referred to as "E's," which gives the series its name. In any case, Kai is caught up in the conflict between humans and psychics because it turns out that Ashrum wasn't what he thought it was, and neither was the mission it sent him on.

As cool as the premise of the series sounded, it really didn't turn out to be much about this conflict or whatever these evil corporations were up to. Occasionally the series would touch on something, but mostly it seemed like a distraction from the somewhat typical slice-of-life anime that had developed following Kai being found by some random girl and brought to the home she shared with her adopted brother, you know, instead of to a hospital. Well, in this case there's a kind of reason for that, but still, it kind of turns into this thing where Kai is the fish out of water and the two people who took him in have fun, wacky adventures, like dressing Kai up like a chick and finding a lost cat. Oh yeah, there's this rebellion thing going on, too, but it isn't entirely clear who the rebels are or who they're fighting for quite a while into the series because apparently the adopted family thing is more important, or something.

Eventually we find out that Ashurum is brainwashing psychics in order to use them as weapons, and that both it and Kai's boss, Eiji Sagimiya aren't what they are initially supposed to appear. Shocker. Oh, and the big secret evil plan involves basically destroying the world as we know it by killing pretty much all of humanity. Of course! Just like so many other anime outings I've watched, including Code Geass just recently.

So you might say I'm a bit disappointed, mainly in that I didn't follow my initial instinct after the standard 3 episode trial and just stop watching at that point. I would have spared myself from the cookie-cutter plot, all the attempts at cuteness and being funny, the annoying asshat of the series's antics, and the lame sequel hook. Oh yeah, we never do find out what happens to good guy Kai, bad guy Eiji, and a few other characters after the big battle at the end. The series just sort of ends, while making a very lame attempt at suggesting that there might be more to follow. Honestly, this series was mostly filler, and it could have done everything in 12 episodes and probably still had plenty of filler to make the big evil secret plan still feel like it was falling into place over time. Maybe the quality of the animation would have been better then, too.

Probably the most fun I got out of this series was unintentional. The series opens itself up for pedophile jokes way too easily, although part of that is thanks to the character design. I don't know how old Asuka, the girl who found Kai, is supposed to be, but at one point a feminine man shows up and wants to marry her. He also has a thing for candy, so one of the first things he does is to ask her if she likes candy. Seems legit, right? ;) Then there's also the standard Catholic Church pedophile jokes when it turns out some cardinal is keeping a bunch of children locked up. So yeah, it's safe to say that the only fun I really had out of this series was unintentional, because lord knows the running gags of Asuka not being able to cook and all the cross-dressing crap wasn't funny.

I honestly would recommend skipping this series if you're thinking of watching it. About the only way you'd probably enjoy it un-ironically would be if you're a fan of the adopted family hijinks type shows, and even then you'd probably lose interest when the plot finally kicks in and people try to kill each other (and sometimes succeed). It's sad, but I actually enjoyed Divergence Eve more than I enjoyed this series, and by that I mean the actual plot of it. 1/10.
 

Bear Ribs

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As cool as the premise of the series sounded, it really didn't turn out to be much about this conflict or whatever these evil corporations were up to. Occasionally the series would touch on something, but mostly it seemed like a distraction from the somewhat typical slice-of-life anime that had developed following Kai being found by some random girl and brought to the home she shared with her adopted brother, you know, instead of to a hospital. Well, in this case there's a kind of reason for that, but still, it kind of turns into this thing where Kai is the fish out of water and the two people who took him in have fun, wacky adventures, like dressing Kai up like a chick and finding a lost cat. Oh yeah, there's this rebellion thing going on, too, but it isn't entirely clear who the rebels are or who they're fighting for quite a while into the series because apparently the adopted family thing is more important, or something.
Drives me nuts when anime does this, and it's so common.

"Our heroes are the only hope for mankind, fighting against the relentless hordes of X in a desperate struggle for survival, and this episode they're going to a cake shop! Next episode they visit a karaoke parlor! Then it's the beach episode! Out of 13 episodes only the first, last, and maybe one in the middle feature any action that isn't our slice-of-life waifu bait!"

Yes, I'm giving a jaundiced eye to you, Sky Girls.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
(26 episode series)

I'm going to say right up front that this is an excellent series and that you should definitely see it if you're a sci-fi fan and/or a cyberpunk fan. Based on the same manga that the movies are based on, the series takes place in the near future and is set primarily in Japan. Technology is very pervasive, with nearly everyone having accepted some form of "cyberization" that links them to an even more advanced version of the internet.

So why do I prefer the series over the movie? Well, as much as I hate to say it, there's just a lot more going on in the series and the movie tends to drag on a bit. That's not to say that I don't mind some cerebral stimulation and some philosophy, but there just has to be more there for me to be interested in, like some good characters. The movies really only ever focus on two of the many characters who make up Section 9. The series, being a series, is able to explore more of the other characters.

I tend to like series with a large ensemble casts and multi-episode story arcs, and wouldn't you know it, but this series happens to fit the bill. Actually one of the nice things about this series is that it manages to introduce you to everyone and the setting everything is taking place in without really slowing the pace down. A lot of anime tends to do that, the thing is while it’s nice to be introduced to characters before we jump into the story, it tends to make the first few episodes kind of drag. This is also why the "three episode rule" exists, because that's usually about the time introductions are over and the plot starts.

GitS;SAC's solution to this is to actually live up to its name and have plenty of stand alone episodes which are unrelated to the main plot, which we catch up to later on. This way, we get to learn about each of the different members of Section 9 by watching them as they go about their jobs, defending Japan against cyber-terrorism. We even follow the antics of the new Tachikomas, robotic "think tanks" where are controlled by artificial intelligence. Each of these stand alone episodes is usually pretty good in its own right, exploring different themes which touch on the philosophies that tend to go hand in hand with the type of technologies presented in this series. There are times this gets a little tiring, such as with the Tachikomas, and just insulting, as with the episode featuring "Imperial" Americans.

As an aside, I have to note, yet again, that it seems like someone at Production I.G has an anti-American axe to grind. Yes, I know there is supposed to be some kind of backstory which explains the how the American Empire came into being, but that should've been in the show, and it still could've done without presenting the actual Americans who showed up like they were buffoons. If anything, they should have been creepy since they were from the CIA, but I digress.

In any case, another nice thing these little stand alone episodes did was to give us an occasional break when the main plotline started, and actually helped to set the pacing a little better. Movies have something of a disadvantage when it comes to this, because they have a much more limited amount of time to do everything in. So whereas in a movie, things which take place over the course of weeks or months can seem to be happening in a much more rapid-fire pacing, and diversions away from it can negatively affect the story, in a series, we only get a finite amount of time in each installment, but especially in the case of longer series, there are plenty of episodes to stretch things out over. Plus, the main Laughing Man plotline started out essentially as any other story covered in the series up to that point, and it got the same kind of attention as everything else, and other things were still going on. In a way, this adds a kind of realism, because in real life we don’t have a preset plot that takes over everything and we focus all our attention on.

This approach also allows the series to slowly delve into the plot, until we realize just how much there is to the story it's telling. In this case, it involves an expert hacker, the Laughing Man, who has a beef with a micro-machine pharmaceutical company. It isn't until later why this is, or how far this shady deal to give this company an unfair leg-up over a competitor goes. That's actually another aspect I like about this series, which is that while it still goes over more abstract ideas like just what makes us human, what exactly a "ghost" is, why people might choose to isolate themselves in such an interconnected society, and other things like that, with much more real aspects, like parts of the government working against each other in a struggle for power, corrupt politicians and police, government interference in the marketplace, and smaller idea men getting crushed by large corporations.

As it turns out, this is all about a possible cure to a debilitating disease that has emerged thanks to the push to implant the human body with technology. A lesser known scientist seems to have discovered a possible cure using some other kind of naturally derived, biological treatment, but this information is suppressed by a collaboration between government officials and a large technology corporation which is developing a micro-machine based "cure" which actually doesn’t work all that well. This was all done in the name of money, naturally, and this really pissed the Laughing Man off, and he tried to do something about it. What makes this interesting, aside from learning who the Laughing Man is and what he's about, is just how deep this conspiracy goes. It apparently leads to confrontations with the narc squad and even the military. Things actually look pretty bad for Section 9 there for a while.

Unfortunately, that last part is one of where the series lacks. Why? Well, it's just very anti-climactic. Everything has gone to hell and has fallen apart, characters are captured and maybe worse, leaving only one who has no clue as to what is going on. Everything gets real tense, the character decides to take action, and then nothing. It was all a part of a bigger plan, and move along now, nothing to see.

That being said, this is one of the series few weaknesses, the others being the anti-American episode, and some of the cutesy stuff with the Tachikomas that went on a bit longer than it really should have.

When it comes to the characters, Batou and Major Motoko Kusanagi are easily my favorites. They are both complex characters with interesting backgrounds (or in the case of the Major, a mysterious background). They have a sense of humor (especially Batou), and both are easy to empathize and sympathize with. It's also obvious that Batou has romantic feelings for the Major, even if she doesn't really share them. I really normally don’t go for the whole leader/subordinate romance thing, but here my only real problem was that it got milked way too much toward the end of the series, and came off as somewhat forced for the sake of drama.

Togusa is also an interesting character. He's the least cyberized member of Section 9, and the only one with a law enforcement rather than a military background. He's also a family man, and we actually get to meet his family a few times, so anything that happens to him tends to generate a bit more sympathy. He really gets a chance to shine in the series, even more so than in the second movie where he was partnered with Batou. About the only thing there is a plotline that seems to go no where, as at the end of one episode his computer turns itself on, does something, and then shuts back down. This seems like it should lead to something, but it never really seems to.

A lot also tends to get made about the fan service from the Major. All I can say is that while, yes, her outfit is definitely more about that, in this case I can't help but take it in stride. While I really don’t mind fan service at all in most cases, when it comes to a series or movie that's trying to take itself seriously, I usually do start to mind, because I prefer my professionals to appear professional rather than to simply serve as eye candy. This is actually one of my complaints when it comes to other sci-fis, like Star Trek. In this case, though, I guess it just fits her character the same way the rest of Section 9 chooses to present itself. Togusa and Chief Aramaki are really the only ones to dress professionally, with all the others dressing very casually. Plus when it comes down to business, she actually does don a combat outfit that's more or less the same as the rest of them wear, albeit a bit more skin-tight. Plus, as an added bonus, it gave me something to laugh about when the Chief teased her about trying to grab his attention by wearing revealing clothing, when she's actually wearing something that's less revealing than what she normally wears.

Anyway, this is an excellent series, with great artwork, and a wonderful soundtrack to go with an interesting story and characters. I highly recommend that you see this series, even if anime isn't normally your thing. This is a really good sci-fi which just happens to be animated. 9/10.
 

Val the Moofia Boss

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I thought that SAC was slow and not really fulfilling. The Tachikomas' comedy was the best part. Only character I liked was Togusa, for being a regular human just trying to catch up with all of these superstrong androids and robots, but still being pretty competent.

There was one interesting bit of sci fi I remember from an early episode: Togusa walks through this pig farm that is a part of a medical insurance/organ transplant and investment scheme. If you sign up, the pig farm people will take your DNA and inject it into pigs, who will then grow your organs. So if you get in a car accident and your liver is gone, no problem, they dissect the pig and it has pretty much a clone of your liver right there waiting for you. On the other hand, if you're healthy, then you have clone organs sitting there in a pig doing nothing, so if someone else gets in an accident and your clone organs are compatible with them, they will get the transplant, and you make some money on the side. (So, do they like have two pigs per customer? Would suck if you sold your clone liver, and then your actual liver in your body was destroyed. Or are the thousands of other customer's pigs supposed to offset that?). Was very interesting. I can't remember if Togusa took the deal but I couldn't think of any downside to it, and given the high risk nature of his occupation, he absolutely should have taken it.
 

ATP

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1.Hidamari Sketch,53 episodes plus some OVA.Very good slice - of - live - you could almost never said about what given episode was - but after watching one,you feel that world is good and future safe.
Very good,when you have depression.One episode would cure you.

2.Mawaru Penginodrum,24 episodes.We have good plot there,and very suprising good end.Becouse it is good end,even if unorthodox.Basically,about secret from the past haunting some family and 2 brothers fighting to save their sister.Which they did.

3.Mitsudomoe - 14 episodes.3 little girls torturing their teacher,but still interesting.Althout even for somebody like me it is sometimes too much.Some thing are just too cruel.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C. 2nd GIG
(26 episode series)

A great follow up to the first season (or series, technically), this is actually the first anime I ever actively got interested in and made a point of watching. And while I really didn't fully understand what was going on because I caught it toward the end of its first showing on Adult Swim, it is a testament to its quality that it still had me hooked from the first time I saw it. I found it so interesting that when Adult Swim re-ran it, I made sure to watch everything from the start of the first SAC series.

Once again the series kind of easies us into the plot. Theoretically we should already know everyone, but the first episode makes a kind of point to reintroduce everyone and briefly recap what happened in the first Stand Alone Complex series while it simultaneously introduces us into what will become a major plotline. That does weaken the first episode a little, but not a whole lot.

The major difference in this sequel series is that we are introduced to a major plotline up front, from the first episode. There's some kind of conspiratory group calling itself "The Individual Eleven" which has been carrying out terrorist attacks, and has gone on to threaten Japan's Prime Minister. There also seem to be some similarities with the Laughing Man incident in that some of the people involved seemed to have gotten their ghosts hacked. This gets Section 9 on the case and investigating. This leads comes to a head, with a lot of people ending up killing themselves due to a virus that makes them think that they are a member of the Individual Eleven. This in turn leads to even bigger things, and a conspiracy that at least attempts to make the one from the first season look small by comparison. In the end, though, this does seem to give us something of a false plotline, as that plot was only a lead-in to another plot, which in turn made what was initially a relatively minor character take on a much larger importance.

This series also carries on the first one's tradition of breaking things up with some stand alone episodes which allow us to explore the characters a bit more in depth, including Major Kusanagi herself. For 2nd GIG, these episodes focus a lot more on the character's backgrounds, which is how we learn about the circumstances that resulted in her getting a completely prosthetic body, as well as what turns out to be a connection to the main antagonist of the series. Of course they don’t really make it that hard to figure out, either.

Of course, everything seems to have a way of leading back to the main plotline, though there are still a few things left unresolved, like whatever ended up happening to a woman that Togusa saved at one point. Things like that seem to have been overlooked or forgotten in favor of putting the puzzle pieces in place for the main plot, which involves a revolution to establish an independent nation within Japan that's made up of refugees from a recent war in Asia (I think that's where they're from anyway). The leader of this movement is one of the Individual Eleven who managed to overcome the virus and stop from killing himself. He apparently has some even loftier goals, which he sees as the next stage in human evolution. This is, of course, a very sci-fi idea, namely that humans could simply choose to evolve into something else. In this case he thinks humans could all exist on the net, without the need for physical bodies. His goal isn't quite as sympathetic as the Laughing Man's, but whatever.

Everything leading up to the conflict at the end of the series is pretty exciting, as is the final conflict itself. Everything was very fast-paced and action-packed, and I have to say that this is a big part of why I got excited about this series even though I didn't know what was going on when I first saw it. The nice thing about it, though, it that even with all the action, there was still an undercurrent of some very sci-fi themes, including the main Ghost in the Shell philosophical theme of existentialism. I actually ended up writing a short paper citing this series as an example just on how it treated artificial life alone, and as annoying as they could be at times, the Tachikomas played a big part in that. After all, they had developed sentience and in the end they chose to sacrifice themselves yet again to save Japan from another nuclear attack.

Speaking of, I can't help but note the undercurrent of anti-Americanism yet again. About the only difference this time is that instead of being complete buffoons, the "Imperial" Americans were just shady types willing to conspire with some Japanese attempting a coup of their own government. I won't get into it too far so as not to spoil anyone who hasn't seen it too much, but while it does take a while for all the details to be clear, it isn't all that hard to figure it out say an episode or two before hand. Apparently taking a shot at the United States was more important than not making their somewhat complex plot completely predictable.

Still, it's a good series, and it was pretty fun to watch. I'd say that this season/series was just as good as the first one, even with its flaws, and the complete series as a whole remains my favorite anime. It's also one of my favorite sci-fis, period. 9/10.
 

prinCZess

Warrior, Writer, Performer, Perv
Really need to find some time to check-out Ghost in the Shell and the Stand-Alone Complex stuff. I recall seeing bits-and-bobs of the series back ~20 years ago (Oh god...I'm going to ignore that) and thinking it was really neat cyberpunk (though, admittedly, cutesy tachikoma bug-robots definitely were the most appealing thing at the time) and...I somehow have the impression that the modern live-action film with Wooden Acting Johannson failed to live-up to its animated predecessor.

Plus, at least in the mid-90s movie's case, I've literally had it sitting on a shelf for six or seven months now since I nabbed it from a garage sale.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
The live-action movie was more concerned with copying visuals from the two anime movies, context be damned, and stuffing in references to the other anime adaptations, than it was in making a good story that actually made sense, let alone in understanding the point of its source material. The SAC series and its sequal are my personal favorites, as the movies can be a bit slow (if you've seen anything by Oshii, that's pretty standard for him). I'd also really recommend the manga, though if you want the uncensored version you have to get the 2nd Edition from 2004 (they edited out the all important lesbian sex orgy scene 😝 in the 1st edition and the latest "collector's edition"). The downside there is that it's a smaller book than the other two editions, so it can be a bit hard to read some of the writing as it gets super tiny. Also it kind of messes with my head that they re-edited it to read left to right. But if you're like me and resent being censored, it's worth getting a hold of, though it's a bit more expensive now due to being out of print.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex Solid State Society
(2006 TV movie)

The end of the series did leave something of a sequel hook, if only in the form of making the audience wonder what Major Kusanagi would do following the death of her love interest and how Section 9 might turn out when the dust cleared. It wasn't all that surprising to find out the Major quit Section 9 and went off on her own, nor that Batou refused to take her place. Naturally, the first part of the movie pretty much revolved as much around getting her back on the team as it did setting up the plot of the movie.

Speaking of the plot, I can't say that it made all that much sense to me, and what parts of it did make sense were essentially a retread of what the first movie had explored. It seemed that there was some big conspiracy involving old folks somehow ghost-hacking people in order to kidnap children to adopt as their own. As with in the series, this first part is actually only a lead-in to another one that is a bit bigger. I won't say that any of it is bad exactly, but I'm somewhat disappointed with where this went.

There were a few good moments, and there were a few odd ones too that didn't make any sense, like Section 9's ace sniper giving his target warning instead of just taking him out.

Still, in the end it was all about getting the Major to confront this oddly Puppetmaster-like character so they can have a kind of philosophical discussion. It never is clear just who or what this hacker is, and it seems that the goal was to combine with the Major, just as in the first movie.

Overall, this movie just seemed to drag a bit. In some ways, the magic from the series was there, but it was like it was missing something. In some ways, I wish that they'd simply not done this movie. It's not that it was bad, exactly, it's just that it was kind of pointless, and it didn't really live up to the series, in my opinion. I can't even bring myself to say all that much about it, or even to recommend whether or not anyone might want to watch it. I guess if you were a fan of the series, you might want to watch this movie, just to see what happens to everyone, but other than that, all I can really say is "meh." You really wouldn't be missing much if you didn't see this movie. I kind of wished they'd kept the series going since the way things were set up, they really could have kept going for several more seasons if they'd wanted to. On the other hand, if this was all they could come up with in way of a story, maybe it's better that they didn't. 7/10.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
Murder Princess
(6 episode OVA)

There isn't a whole lot to say about this OVA, I'm afraid. It's kind of fun, but at the same time, there's no getting by the fact that it's pretty much just a typical medieval hack n' slash anime. There is a bit of a twist in that it's made abundantly clear that this is actually a post-apocalyptic setting, with humanity having reclaimed civilization only at the level of Western Europe's Middle Ages. So while there are knights and kings and the like, there are also scientists, androids, and cyborgs.

The plot is still fairly typical, though. Naturally there's some heavy-handed message about how humanity should just die already, since it's just in our nature to be destructive and fight each other, as explained by the big bad as to why he wants to end it all. Of course, one of the characters who ends up sacrificing themselves in the name of saving the world gives the optimistic view that maybe humanity will "get it right this time", now that it has a second chance. The end of the series doesn't really make it look like there's much hope of that, as it ends with warfare and the Murder Princess earning that name. Really this is a case of forgetting the message in favor of making the title character a badass, and I can't say that I much care in this case, probably because I never really took this OVA seriously.

The greatest strength of this OVA was that it was hard at times to tell if it was trying to be serious. At times it did, but at others it was like the OVA was playing up its own absurdness. That's the aspect of it I liked. Then again, even if this wasn't the case and the OVA was trying to be entirely serious, I still had fun laughing at the absurdity of everything. And by that I don't just mean the two main characters switching bodies, I mean everything from the insane hack 'n slash combat to the monocle-wearing scientist villain, not to mention the two cutesy little killer robot girls. The one with the meek little voice and the machine gun arm was particularly funny. Monica Rial also fits well as the voice of the title princess, though I have to admit part of that is the fact she's playing another ambiguously lesbian character, which she's done before.

Which does bring me to another thing I liked about the OVA – the growth of the relationship between Princess Alita and Falis, who have actually switched bodies. It is a little ambiguous as to whether they have romantic feelings for each other, but that's the way I interpreted it. The nice thing here is that it wasn't played up too much while actually being a bit sweet. At least I thought so. Of course there's the weirdness of them being in each others' bodies, so if they do it with each other, they'd actually be doing it with themselves, really. I'm sure that'd still be fetish fuel for some, though. ;)

In any case, the fun I derived from this OVA was mainly that I could just watch and laugh at its over the top nature. It has weird creatures and cute little robot girls fighting with each other or for or against a hot action girl, high pressure blood splatter, and pretty much everything that's fun to make fun of about anime, like it or hate it. That being said, this isn't really what I'd consider a good show, it just isn't really a bad one. It's worth watching once. 6/10.
 

ATP

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Serial Experiment Lain/13 episodes/ - start as normal teenager series,and last in very suprising end.Which i could not guess at least to last episode.But...very good story.And from some point of viev,you could tell,that it was happy end.
And - we have very interesting look at human nature,too.

FLCL/2000/ - 6 OVA,made by people who must be on some good drugs.But - story is still great,if you have time see that.
Althought you could die from laugh.I almost did so.
 
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Captain X

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Excel Saga
(26 episode series)

This series is very safely in the refuge of absurdity. In fact, its entire purpose is to make fun of as much as it possibly can. Every episode tackles a genre and mercilessly parodies it. For the most part, it tends to focus on anime, though it expands itself somewhat to include American animation for one episode. There have been a lot of shows that have done the whole "make fun of anime" thing, but this series is definitely one of the better examples I've seen.

At first I wasn't entirely sold on it, because it seemed like just another anime in the same vein as FLCL and Dead Leaves. That isn't to say that it was bad, or that those shows were bad, but I was a bit bored for the first few episodes. The three episode rule definitely applies here, though, as the series seems to pick up after that. It helps to have watched a fair amount of anime to recognize all the references in this series, though. Actually it wouldn't surprise me if I missed a lot more than I caught. Probably the most obvious ones for me were the references to the Captain Herlock franchise and Golgo 13. But really if you're familiar with any of the genres Excel Saga parodies in any of its 26 episodes, you'll probably get at least some enjoyment out of it. But that's just because the people who made this did such a good job, that they managed to make an episode that had no gags into one big gag itself, mostly because all the clichés being played straight on purpose ended up being just as funny as the usual treatment they got in the rest of the series.

I'm not really sure what else to say about this series, other than that it's worth a watch, of course. There is literally so much that it's a bit overwhelming, and I feel like I'd either have to go into detail about everything, or just not bother getting into it. So I'm just not going to bother getting into it. ;)

This is definitely a weird show, but it's very enjoyable to watch. If you can laugh at yourself about being a fan of anime, or already like to make fun of the many clichés that tend to show up in anime, you'll probably like this series. If you like to take anime seriously, you probably won't. It's pretty much that simple. Either way, I'm giving this an 8/10, which isn't bad for a parody series.
 

Bear Ribs

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What's amazing to me about Excel Saga is that despite changing genre once an episode and being 90% parody, there's actually a consistent thread of a plot that advances through the series and reaches a satisfying conclusion, at least as long as you don't watch the last episode.

I've heard the voice actress for Excel actually had to take time off for her throat to heal because Excel is such a motormouth though I've never confirmed that.
 

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