KilroywasNOTHere
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the idea of the multiverse does have it's benifits LOL! XD
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the idea of the multiverse does have it's benifits LOL! XD
Blasterbot
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On what they would need to do to win back the fan base I think the best option would be to sit on the property for a decade or two. sell it to someone who looks at the OT and loves it for cheap. let them invest the time and effort into building it back up. you will never get the OG cast back so don't try. at best you make an AI Cameo of a hologram giving some mission to do. Disney has lost the trust of a large part of the fanbase and won't be trusted with it. The name used to be associated with quality family movies. they have lost it and need to build that reputation back up before they can even attempt a big franchise again.
Director Guillermo Del Toro reveals in an interview his team wrote a Screenplay for Star Wars that would've been about the Rise and Fall of Jabba the Hutt.
I get it now...
Jaenera Targaryen
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Funny thing is, buying gear with real money on SWTOR pretty much subverts the whole idea of 'pay to win'. It doesn't matter if you have exclusive gear if you don't know how to use it, since it's always at the lowest rating with no stat bonuses and the like until they get modded. Oh, and you can't get top-end mods without playing late-game content. IIRC, the level cap is currently at 80, and off-the-shelf mods are only competitive up to level 70. You need to get tech fragments from FPs and Ops to buy the level 75 and level 80 mods, or get them as loot. Not to mention the real top-end/exclusive gear can never be bought, whether with in-game or real money, and can only be gotten as loot, again from FPs and Ops.
In short, if Rey showed up in SWTOR, she'd get absolutely slaughtered in PVP or outright blocked from group content for being the load. On their own, lootboxes in the game just look good. To be really good, you also need to be good.
Put another way, git gud, scrub
In short, if Rey showed up in SWTOR, she'd get absolutely slaughtered in PVP or outright blocked from group content for being the load. On their own, lootboxes in the game just look good. To be really good, you also need to be good.
Put another way, git gud, scrub
evilchumlee
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I don't think that's quite the answer either. I don't Star Wars to go away from 20 years. I'd rather have mediocre Star Wars than no Star Wars.
All they need to do is just restructure Lucasfilm a bit, for the love of god get rid of Kathleen Kennedy, and maybe slow down a bit on things.
Keep the Mandoverse doing it's thing. Then either jump way back, or jump way forward in the timeline. The Sequel Trilogy is toxic, seal it off. There's still plenty we can do with Star Wars.
Bigking321
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Ok...
But what we have now is indescribably bad and damaging star wars. Not mediocre.
I would happily have had nothing instead of the trash Disney has inflicted on star wars.
evilchumlee
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I would disagree with that. The only that that has been bad were the sequel movies, and even then just especially Last Jedi.
The rest has been... in my opinion... ok to mediocre. I don't think there's been anything bad. Mandalorian started hot, ended kind of meh. I honestly enjoyed Book of Boba Fett, not sure what everyone's issue is there. Obi-Wan was... fine, disappointing but fine. Andor was one of the best Star Wars stories we have ever gotten. Ahsoka was... fine.
DarthOne
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You ignore the novels.
evilchumlee
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Generally not as concerned with them.
I did read Bloodlines and Alphabet Squadron. I very much enjoyed both of those.
I tend to stay away from the novels because it's clear that the movies and shows will contradict them, so I don't want to get invested into them.
evilchumlee
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DarthOne
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The problem is the damage Disney is doing to the franchise as a whole, regardless of if we buy their stuff or not.
evilchumlee
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I don't think there is "damage" being done. Star Wars is as popular as it as ever been.
Bigking321
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evilchumlee
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The D+ shows bring in viewership...
Complaining about Star Wars is a time honored tradition, but people are still tuning in and consuming.
Bigking321
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From what I understand it's less and less viewership with each show. The best viewership was with mandalorian season one and it's been downhill ever since.
There is always going to be some level of fandom that will explode with joy just because there is a new star wars product to consume and that's wonderful because star wars is wonderful so any new star wars is automatically wonderful and they can't wait for whatever new star wars product so they can consume it.
Everyone else is less and less interested with every new piece of terrible content.
To say that star wars is as popular as it ever was is... just wrong.
Blasterbot
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they aren't bringing in as much though. and D+ was a massive investment that hasn't brought in enough. movies are down. park visits are down. toy sales are down. Marvel isn't performing any more. Star wars has gone down hill. the original content hasn't done well either. one of these would be tolerable all of these together means while Disney can carry on from inertia for a while if they can't right the ship they are in for bad times.
evilchumlee
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They're still bringing in strong viewership.
The issue is less "terrible content", perhaps more "too much content". I think it might be smart for Disney to slow down, and by no means is their content perfect, but I wouldn't call anything other than Last Jedi "terrible". Most is just... not as good as it could be.
It's mostly the same for Marvel, although I think the quality of the MCU has degraded much more than the quality of Star Wars.
Umm...there 'viewership minutes' are down to something like 30% of what they were even a couple years ago. That's not good.