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Oh, undoubtedly the special effects would be considered earthshaking. The OT was one of, if not the, most visually impressive films ever in its own day, much less movies with decades more advanced techniques. People would be awed by them, no doubt about that.

The Sequels may get a bit of backlash for embracing "reality is brown." The OT and prequels had a brighter palette, especially on the aliens where you had numerous green, blue, red, and yes, brown skilled aliens. However, the sequels basically had only orange or brown skinned aliens, usually wrinkly and almost always bald for some reason. We're used to how brown worlds have become (This, in turn, seems to be a backlash against the massive tendency towards making everything Teal and Orange that came before the brown world trend in film) but exported to the whole trilogy at once for the first time, people are certainly going to notice the sudden jumps to brown-ness.

Eh, fair.

Apart from anything else, their reactions to these gems here should be quite "fun", if you know what I mean.







They've also gone out of their way to make it clear who the ultimate villain of the whole franchise is, so there's that. If you want a scarier and more depraved villain than Vader, then look no further than his boss, is all I can say.
 
I'd imagine that audiences would be shocked by the lack of heart in the new stuff.

Apart from anything else, their reactions to these gems here should be quite "fun", if you know what I mean.

I found the Vader scene in Rogue One to be rather masturbatory, in a bad way. Feels like Darth Vader was reduced to an action figure being played with by a kid rather than an actual character in his own right. Then again, the Disney Star Wars stuff as a whole feels like fanfiction rather than actually new Star Wars.
 
I'd imagine that audiences would be shocked by the lack of heart in the new stuff.



I found the Vader scene in Rogue One to be rather masturbatory, in a bad way. Feels like Darth Vader was reduced to an action figure being played with by a kid rather than an actual character in his own right. Then again, the Disney Star Wars stuff as a whole feels like fanfiction rather than actually new Star Wars.

I'm sorry you feel that way, then.

Although, I agree the Sequels didn't live up to their legacy (though I didn't hate them with every fiber of my being, either).
 
I found the Vader scene in Rogue One to be rather masturbatory, in a bad way. Feels like Darth Vader was reduced to an action figure being played with by a kid rather than an actual character in his own right. Then again, the Disney Star Wars stuff as a whole feels like fanfiction rather than actually new Star Wars.

I disagree. Vader's always been characterized as absolute death when he actually enters the field personally, it's just always been either offscreen or on the protagonist side back when he was Anakin.
 
I'd imagine that audiences would be shocked by the lack of heart in the new stuff.



I found the Vader scene in Rogue One to be rather masturbatory, in a bad way. Feels like Darth Vader was reduced to an action figure being played with by a kid rather than an actual character in his own right. Then again, the Disney Star Wars stuff as a whole feels like fanfiction rather than actually new Star Wars.
Have you read the comics with Darth Vader?
 
I disagree. Vader's always been characterized as absolute death when he actually enters the field personally, it's just always been either offscreen or on the protagonist side back when he was Anakin.

Seconded. Having him butcher his way through a hall of panicked Rebel troops without so much as a scratch reminds the audience of that.

We should also remember that OT choreography depicted Vader as a rather slow, brittle, lumbering combatant, and while there are many comics and other media that disprove this perception and show what a superhuman force of nature he is... the majority of people simply don’t engage with them. And, honestly, I think this scene is a great reminder for that same, unengaged majority that Vader’s a battlefield monstrosity, and not the slow brute that late Seventies and early Eighties fight sequences portray him as.
 
Even leaving the hallway scene aside, there are still more "kid-friendly" instances of Vader handing his enemies' asses to them with no trouble. In which case, I'm curious as to whether this would still get the message across to downtimer audiences who take issue with Rogue One?




(Of course, I don't think it was Vader's objective to kill them at all, which means he massively held back when he could've manhandled them in seconds, so... )
 
Frankly I do find that scene in Rogue One rather fanboyish. Vader in the OT had a point because much like Yoda, the Force meant more than his body - remember, he was more machine than man. Of course, he was still more than a match for Luke in Empire Strikes Back, to the point where he was basically just fucking with him the entire time. Of course the biggest indictment of Rogue One is that it just doesn't make any sense. Apparently whoever made it (and all the people who are fans of it), are only partly aware of the actual opening scene from the original movies, where it is quite clearly stated that the reason the Star Destroyer attacked that ship and was convinced that the plans were on board in digital form was because they intercepted transmissions meant for that ship. Yet in Rogue One we have the rebels fumbling about with a physical disk and Vader showing up in person, and fanboys going "no wonder he was so mad." :rolleyes:
 
If you want to nitpick rogue one, the correct issue is that despite the empire having the plans for the death star since episode 2, and construction in progress as of 3, they somehow worked on it for years before realizing it didn't have a working power source.
 

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