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Jesus Christ, and people complained non stop about the Vong.

Despite the Vong being a developed and interesting culture with memorable characters like Nom Anor and Tsavong Lah. I can not wait for what the High Republic series brings to the table.
 
Urabrask Revealed said:
WELP! We finally got more information on the enemy faction of The High Republic, and it is "Dindunuffins" on one side and "literally Yuzhan Vong but plants" on the other. Once again Disney rapes the corpse of the EU for quick and cheap inspiration.
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Why don't your post the stuff about them so others can make thier own decisions as you seem to be thinking they are going to ruin it....
 
Zachowon said:
Why don't your post the stuff about them so others can make thier own decisions as you seem to be thinking they are going to ruin it....
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Hang on, I will get to it.
EDIT: Okay, I got the info from Kiwifarms, but considering their thoroughness, I have no reason to disbelieve them.
Yes. Except Disney's "Nihil" are more like space version knockoffs of Fallout raiders mixed with anarchists and injun allegories, ie they dindunuffin, humans are just taking over alien territory! So in a way they're also knockoffs of the Diversity Alliance but without the potential for memes and accurate jabs at modern politics. Despite being a shitty faction of anarchist deadbeats in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, they can somehow set entire planets on fire as if they were cowboy camps.

The plant assholes are called the "Drengir" and are basically Abeloth and Vong replacements/knockoffs. Being demonic foreign invaders who seek to reap a "dark harvest" for their gods and destroy technology with their tentacles spread throughout the galaxy. Newfags and turncoats are also saying "OMG Cthulu mythos in SW!" despite this being nothing new to the franchise which had eldritch horrors galore, with the original notes, SotME, The DarkStryder Campaign, Supernatural Encounters, FotJ, Cult Encounters, and many others already covering such things beforehand (and which I was trying to summarize with my cosmic shitposts but the thread kept getting derailed), as even the fucking Sarlacc is a part of that.

Anyway, tentacle plant boys want to vongnuke plantnuke the galaxy. The Nihil want to nuke the humans and the galaxy cuz anarchy. Plant boys or their gods cause a huge disturbance which makes all hyperspace routes implode and countless ships explode or fall out of the sky so the nu-jedi have to fix shit and stop them. The Jedi are tumblr crusaders now. They also have to save some ugly pixies from the shitty Marvel comics. That about sums it up. How this shit ends is anyone's guess. My guess is either the sith gods grow bored and eat the Drungwiwhatever or the Karen Traviss jedi steps in and saves the universe somehow cuz girlpower.
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Can I also point out how highly fake the excerpts from writers for this series felt? It reminded me of the observation people had about 343 industries inside specials here.

“It’s been great to see the Drengir’s threat grow throughout the initiative. They are one of my new favorite Star Wars monsters to write. They are sinister, unstoppable and, as we’ll find out, inescapably linked to the fate of one of our High Republic Jedi…”
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“The Nihil are truly unlike any villain we’ve seen in Star Wars before. I am really excited to go deep behind enemy lines in the IDW ongoing series and give readers a chance to learn about the inner workings of one of the most vicious, unyielding, and chaotic groups the galaxy has ever known.”
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"They're my FAVORITE monsters to write", "They're unlike any star wars villain beforehand". It just feels so artificial.
 
I will post the images and exert about them.
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I will post the descriptions in another post
 
The Drengir said:
“As the Jedi struggle to deal with the aftermath of the Great Disaster, a new creeping terror rises from the ground beneath their feet. The Drengir are sentient plant-life who are looking to reap a terrible harvest across the galactic frontier,” says Cavan Scott, writer of Marvel’s upcoming The High Republic series. “The seed for the vegetation-based villains came from a sketch by [legendary Star Wars concept artist] Iain McCaig in the early days of The High Republic’s development. Iain had been sketching monsters and there was one creature that was covered in vines and creepers. It sparked off the inspiration for what became the Drengir and I quickly fired off a document outlining what could be their culture and background to the rest of the group, drawing on research I’d been reading about how real-world plants thrive and communicate with each other.”
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The Nihil said:
“The Nihil are brutal, savage marauders, based in the Outer Rim,” says Charles Soule, writer of the novel Light of the Jedi. “They’re the stuff of nightmares, able to appear anywhere almost at will. They use bizarre, intimidating tactics — chemical weapons, poison — anything that might kill you, they’ll use.”

Unlike the monstrous Drengir, the Nihil plan and plot and have a power structure. Which might just make them even more terrifying in the end. “The Nihil are organized into three main divisions called Tempests, each with its own captain who wields total control,” says Soule. “They are frightening in a way that feels great for Star Wars, in part because their ‘code,’ if you can call it that, is so simple: the Nihil take what they want. If you stand in their way, they will kill you and everyone you love. But even chaos agents can have goals…and the Nihil’s plans run directly through both the Republic and the Jedi Order.

“The Nihil are truly unlike any villain we’ve seen in Star Wars before,” adds Daniel José Older, writer of IDW Publishing’s The High Republic Adventures series. “I am really excited to go deep behind enemy lines in the IDW ongoing series and give readers a chance to learn about the inner workings of one of the most vicious, unyielding, and chaotic groups the galaxy has ever known.”
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Machrion Ro said:
“Marchion Ro holds an important post within the greater Nihil organization — he is the Eye of the Nihil, as was his father before him. He doesn’t give the orders — that’s up to the Tempest Runners — but in a very real way, everything revolves around him,” says Soule. “The things that make the Nihil more than just a bunch of Outer Rim raiders all come from Marchion. He is also, in every sense, a bad guy. And it’s been fantastic building someone around which to focus the darker elements of our High Republic story.”
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And why can they not happen?
It isnt like we have had many k them in current canon.
 
Zachowon said:
Sorry.

What is the issue with them?
What were you wanting if this era?
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The primary issue is that they are supposed to be this big scary enemy threat in the golden age of the Republic. Where for 10.000 years, there was peace and justice. These two factions run counter to that claim.
As for what I want, maybe a problem-of-the-week series where the cast have to solve various problems and conflicts the jedi way.
 
Urabrask Revealed said:
The primary issue is that they are supposed to be this big scary enemy threat in the golden age of the Republic. Where for 10.000 years, there was peace and justice. These two factions run counter to that claim.
As for what I want, maybe a problem-of-the-week series where the cast have to solve various problems and conflicts the jedi way.
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What existing lore makes you claim that the High Republic era was supposed to be peace and justice? The history of the Republic has always been filled with war, and I've always had the impression that the glory days of the Republic were a period of expansion and conquest. The age of peace that's been referred to by people like Palpatine was much more recent.
 
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ShadowArxxy said:
What existing lore makes you claim that the High Republic era was supposed to be peace and justice? The history of the Republic has always been filled with war, and I've always had the impression that the glory days of the Republic were a period of expansion and conquest. The age of peace that's been referred to by people like Palpatine was much more recent.
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I assumed the Republic to be a mostly pacifist sort of government, mostly because of the prequel trilogy and its plotpoint of the Republic having no military with which they could've put the uppity seperatists in line.
 
Urabrask Revealed said:
The primary issue is that they are supposed to be this big scary enemy threat in the golden age of the Republic. Where for 10.000 years, there was peace and justice. These two factions run counter to that claim.
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ShadowArxxy said:
What existing lore makes you claim that the High Republic era was supposed to be peace and justice? The history of the Republic has always been filled with war, and I've always had the impression that the glory days of the Republic were a period of expansion and conquest. The age of peace that's been referred to by people like Palpatine was much more recent.
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"It's unthinkable! There hasn't been a full-scale war since the formation of the Republic!"

Now, Lucas imagined the Republic to be about a thousand years old (and the Jedi to precede the Republic). The old EU had already painted the Republic to be c. 25,000 years old (i.e. the estimated time-span during which the Jedi were "guardians of peace and justice" according to Obi-Wan). So the above quote was retconned (yup, that was a retcon!) to refer to a sort of re-formation of the Republic, a thousand years ago. The Ruusan Reformation. (Which got ported over to the new continuity, even.)

And it's established that there hasn't been a full-scale war since that time.

Urabrask Revealed said:
As for what I want, maybe a problem-of-the-week series where the cast have to solve various problems and conflicts the jedi way.
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That would be great. I've always wanted a series like that. Some of Jude Watson's book from the old EU got pretty close, but I had really hoped for a sort of follow-up to Young Jedi Knights written in this vein. (They could've pushed NJO a few years back; that would also have removed the whole "Luke sends young kids off on suicide missions" issue...) Never got that, and I'm sure it would be great.

And somehow, they're still not doing it now. They're still going for the "there's a vast, unprecedented threat out there!" angle. Which is dumb.
 
Regarding Luke sending kids on suicide missions, its my personal headcanon the age of majority in the GFFA is somewhat younger than in RL. Remember Anakin was 17 at the time, and he led it. Jaina and Jacen were 18-19.

Tahiri was fifteen...IIRC.

That's young but they aren't pre teens, they've seen combat, and they've fought before.

Albeit the Mission over Myrkr was the sort of stuff that would been hard for special forces.
 
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