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What If? Solved game. solving settings via metaknowledge

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A solved game is a game whose outcome (win, lose or draw) can be correctly predicted from any position, assuming that both players play perfectly. This concept is usually applied to abstract strategy games, and especially to games with full information and no element of chance; solving such a game may use combinatorial game theory and/or computer assistance.
Metaknowledge is extremely OP, in many universes it is the strongest power you can have. I had an idea to collate and optimize "solutions" for various settings.
 

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Solving Dragonball Verse:
(mostly taken from fanfics. but some parts I improved)

Dr Gero invented the utter bullshit that is
Eternal Energy Reactor
an infinite Ki reactor that he gave his "androids" (cyborgs) can be trained to produce even more Ki.

bulma has invented dragonball detector.

demiplanes are a thing that kami knows how to build
Room of Spirit and Time

then you have the bullshit that is the

So you need to find bulma and either join her and steal the balls at the last moment or convince an impressionable teenager to go along with your wish. Possibly by taking turns with wishes and doing several runs.
If doing the taking turns (since there are 3 wishes per summon) you can use your own wish (for example) to be able to sense and detect dragon balls.

Optional wish: get the ability to sense the location of dragonballs. might be better slotted between wishes 1 and 2.
Wish 1: organic copy of eternal energy reactor. or if too complicated just a regular one. It is canon the cyborgs can train to become ridiculously broken if they only bother to
Wish 2: teleport all tree of might fruit and seeds in the local universe to you (dragonball is a multiverse)
Wish 3: a demiplane under your control and anchored to yourself, powered by your eternal energy reactor where you could plant the tree of might seeds.

and bam. you now have infinite supply of tree of might fruits. eat them every day to rapidly become the strongest being in the universe
 
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That is presuming that these are all within the power of the Dragon Balls, further there is the problem that three wishes is the upgraded dragon balls and by that time the horse has bolted from the stables and many things that can be changed in dragon ball cannot. Though there is one important thing that can be done with metaknowledge and that is taking every possible training opportunity in and implied by canon.

If your plan is not feasible, it can be made feasible by convincing Kami to get strong and improve his own knowledge of the mystic arts which would then improve the capabilities of the Dragon Balls...

edit: I apologize for the necromancy, didn't know the thread was old, guess vs is less active.
 
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edit: I apologize for the necromancy, didn't know the thread was old, guess vs is less active.
thread is 25 days old. so its not yet necromancy
That is presuming that these are all within the power of the Dragon Balls
canon known wishes include:
1. the revival of everyone on earth
2. restoring a planet that has been blown up to nothing.
3. immortality
4. anything kami's magic can do. (kami creates and maintains the hyperbolic time chamber demiplane)

so it all should be well wishing the ability of the dragonballs.
 

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thread is 25 days old. so its not yet necromancy

canon known wishes include:
1. the revival of everyone on earth
2. restoring a planet that has been blown up to nothing.
3. immortality
4. anything kami's magic can do. (kami creates and maintains the hyperbolic time chamber demiplane)

so it all should be well wishing the ability of the dragonballs.
1. Later series on the upgraded balls
2. Later series on the upgraded balls
3. Yes.
4. We don't know that it is Kami, since after he poofs the hypertonic lion tamer remains the same and nothing happens to it. So it could be some other force like Mr. Popo. Well, I might be missing something though

Anyways, I am thinking that your plan probably does work, but it might require convincing Kami to get stronger and to eventually upgrade the balls when the time comes. Though given how fast and loose the series is with its own rules, your plan might just work even if it shouldn't.

I think one thing you'd agree on is getting the dragon team to train consistently and train together, make sure that the weakest of them are brought up by the strongest. Something like that would derail the Saiyan saga, and if you can't get Bulma to build a simple gravity chamber...
 

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Song of ice and fire - if you are SI in Ned Stark body - just leave troops to catch Jaime fucking Cersei.If in some other body,come there and kill them when they fuck.Problem solved./Do not try told Ned,it would not work/

If you are SI during rebellion - as Jaime save Ellia,as somebody else it would not be possible.But you could,if you are good archer,schoot Tywin during sack.Surviving would be problem,but it worth it.
Rescuing Lyanna - just schoot Kingsguards,take 20 hired myrish crossbowmen with you.Or good archers.
 
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Battletech (before 3025 where almost all the SIs are):

Step 1: Go grab the Helm Memory Core. While you're at it, help yourself to all the 'mechs and ASF you can haul from the ludicrous multi-regiment stash of Star League vehicles it comes with.

Step 2: Sell the information on the core for a lifetime's worth of money to Hanse Davion. Narc on ComStar while you're at it for free. For a bonus "Help people who aren't you" tell Hanse his daughter's going to be crazier than Romano and he needs to take his heart medication.

Step 3: Depending on your temperament, either retire in the lap of luxury on the core money or build a mercenary/house company around the 'mechs you yoinked so you get to blow stuff up.

Step 4: If you're still not obscenely wealthy enough somehow, gather up some of the many, many lost WarShips and factories floating in various systems. The Oslo in the Elgin system's debris field, f'rex, or that nice asteroid shipyard at Star's End.

Step 5: You probably don't need any more steps.
 
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