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ParadiseLost
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Isn't this just a toned down version of the magical negro stereotype?
Some I'm sure could say as such but I wouldn't characterize it as that. There's substantiated reasons for him to be there and helping Robin Hood. It's just done in a poor and cringe manner. Maybe its a racial inversion of the entire White Person helping a Black Person archetype... I dunno.
prinCZess
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And not just any Crusade! But the Third Crusade in Syria. As we know from the draft notice that is delivered to Robin...
This Robin Hood is a trainwreck. I'd almost say 'glorious trainwreck', but it also sadly suffers from being really forgettable once it's over. The only part that's stuck with me is the draft notice really just because of the absolute, stupendous absurdity of it and the hit-over-head War on Terror allegory it attempts.
That movie was a garbage heap, and the setting was wasted on it. I thought it was some post-apoc interpretation of Robin Hood where the technology was mostly lost, but not its tactics.
The movie was pure commie and sjw propganda, anyone involved in it should've been tarred and feathered.
The movie was pure commie and sjw propganda, anyone involved in it should've been tarred and feathered.
Val the Moofia Boss
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Are there any good Robin Hood movie besides the 1938 one? I guess there was Men in Tights but that was a parody.
ParadiseLost
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The Disney animated one.
Just saw the pilot episode of a new YouTube series called murder drones:
It's basically a vampire show, but with robots. And it stars robots because if you made something this violent staring people it would get nuked off of youtube before you could say "content moderation without consistent standards".
The main thing I noticed, aside from the generally high quality of the animation, is that it has that very particular millennial/Gen Z sense of humor that toes the line between being irreverent, quipy, and meta in an amusing way, and being irreverent, quipy, and meta in a too clever by half annoying way. Still, I'm interested in seeing which side of the line it eventually falls on.
It's basically a vampire show, but with robots. And it stars robots because if you made something this violent staring people it would get nuked off of youtube before you could say "content moderation without consistent standards".
The main thing I noticed, aside from the generally high quality of the animation, is that it has that very particular millennial/Gen Z sense of humor that toes the line between being irreverent, quipy, and meta in an amusing way, and being irreverent, quipy, and meta in a too clever by half annoying way. Still, I'm interested in seeing which side of the line it eventually falls on.
So my informal anime group has been watching the original Bubblegum Crisis, and also recently started Sleepy Princess. One of the other guys in the group has been whining the entire time about how boring he things Bubblegum Crisis is, while I've been enjoying how gloriously '80s it is, yet he really likes Sleepy Princess for some reason I can't really understand, while I personally find it to be quite boring as it sells itself almost entirely on being "cute" and "funny" with most of the humor being based on a bland form of dark humor and being referential to rpgs and lampshading tropes.
The Kevin Costner 1991 version was pretty good I feel. Not really a good Kids movies unfortunately IMHO since they made it a bit too dark and depressing and rapey but I liked a lot of what went into it.
I think people get hung up on the accents crap too much. Like just don't give crap. It can be a fun movie to watch.
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I liked the Costner one.
The Russell Crow version however....that sucked ball is.
I will also nominate the Disney animated version as a good one.
The Russell Crow version however....that sucked ball is.
I will also nominate the Disney animated version as a good one.
prinCZess
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The Russel Crowe Robin Hood is much better than some people give it credit for. It has stumbles and isn't great, with some probably-bad choices for story, historical authenticity, and even casting...But it's got a really solid thematic heart because unlike every other Robin Hood it actually bothers to use the Robin Hood tale as a lead-in/inroad to some dealing with (even if at times hamhandedly) English political thought surrounding the duties of leaders, the response to injustice, and the rights of (English)men.
In some ways--and at risk of putting on my big-brain cap and overanalyzing shit with wordiness and bullshit that's just meant to be entertainment--I'd even go so far as to compare it to Scott's work in Gladiator. It's using this pop-culture-ified historical backdrop to craft a story that rings to the big, cultural touchstones of that society (and to some degree our own). Gladiator has Maximus who embodies a lot of mythologized Roman stoicism, intellligence, and reluctance-to-power. Robin Hood has, obviously, Robin Hood who embodies a lot of English localism/Whiggery, friction with authority, and the conflict between status and just/proper behavior...and, of course, the unifying force of hating the French.
Anyways...
Personally watched Lynch's Dune. It's actually still pretty watchable and...I'm kind of confused where it's reputation comes from? Like, it's clear--especially in the second half or last third or so--that it's trying to pack too much into the runtime so it becomes a clip-show of highlights at the end that go by at lightning pace with way too little showing and too much telling. But the first half or 2/3rds or so is completely watchable (though as others have mentioned, It also seems like the inner monologues that were inserted are unnecessary? They're pretty jarring, especially when they can come from anyone).
Nowadays suffers from a bit of 'Wow, that's really 80s' in the costuming and the performances and like...But in the costuming's case it's kind of cool? It gives things a blast of retro-future appearances with, like, the old-school microphones the navigators speak-through and the Emperor's whole decadent 19th-century court thing...And not to mention the Sardukar's NBC-gear costuming. It's a catchy sci-fi aesthetic...Even if I definitely made fun of the fast-acting tylenol-capsule spaceships
The matte paintings and miniatures used still hold up solidly. Even the worms, though they're even more obvious. About the only thing visually that really throws you for a loop is the personal shields that used 80s CGI to create...rectangular blocks around the person.
And only get used, like, twice. Baffling decisionmaking there.
Patrick Stewart as Gurney Halleck with a pug tucked-into the chest of his uniform waving the Atreides into battle definitely a solid, memorable moment as well--though I'd still give the edge in performance to Brolin.
In some ways--and at risk of putting on my big-brain cap and overanalyzing shit with wordiness and bullshit that's just meant to be entertainment--I'd even go so far as to compare it to Scott's work in Gladiator. It's using this pop-culture-ified historical backdrop to craft a story that rings to the big, cultural touchstones of that society (and to some degree our own). Gladiator has Maximus who embodies a lot of mythologized Roman stoicism, intellligence, and reluctance-to-power. Robin Hood has, obviously, Robin Hood who embodies a lot of English localism/Whiggery, friction with authority, and the conflict between status and just/proper behavior...and, of course, the unifying force of hating the French.
Anyways...
Personally watched Lynch's Dune. It's actually still pretty watchable and...I'm kind of confused where it's reputation comes from? Like, it's clear--especially in the second half or last third or so--that it's trying to pack too much into the runtime so it becomes a clip-show of highlights at the end that go by at lightning pace with way too little showing and too much telling. But the first half or 2/3rds or so is completely watchable (though as others have mentioned, It also seems like the inner monologues that were inserted are unnecessary? They're pretty jarring, especially when they can come from anyone).
Nowadays suffers from a bit of 'Wow, that's really 80s' in the costuming and the performances and like...But in the costuming's case it's kind of cool? It gives things a blast of retro-future appearances with, like, the old-school microphones the navigators speak-through and the Emperor's whole decadent 19th-century court thing...And not to mention the Sardukar's NBC-gear costuming. It's a catchy sci-fi aesthetic...Even if I definitely made fun of the fast-acting tylenol-capsule spaceships
The matte paintings and miniatures used still hold up solidly. Even the worms, though they're even more obvious. About the only thing visually that really throws you for a loop is the personal shields that used 80s CGI to create...rectangular blocks around the person.
And only get used, like, twice. Baffling decisionmaking there.
Patrick Stewart as Gurney Halleck with a pug tucked-into the chest of his uniform waving the Atreides into battle definitely a solid, memorable moment as well--though I'd still give the edge in performance to Brolin.
And not just any Crusade! But the Third Crusade in Syria. As we know from the draft notice that is delivered to Robin...
Yeah.
This Robin Hood is a trainwreck. I'd almost say 'glorious trainwreck', but it also sadly suffers from being really forgettable once it's over. The only part that's stuck with me is the draft notice really just because of the absolute, stupendous absurdity of it and the hit-over-head War on Terror allegory it attempts.
Finished the movie today. Yeah... it didn't seem to improve in quality. That's in spite of the revelation of semiautomatic crossbows being introduced during the big heist scene and having Robin Hood enter bullet time as pillars were pockmarked and filled the chambers with powder like the Matrix lobby scene. Or the medieval riot police complete with metal facemasks and body shields with viewing slits. Or the rioters with molotov cocktails that they were fighting.
Not withstanding the entire actual plot of the movie. They were paying an "Arabian" General to defeat the English Army in the Middle East so they could discredit the King and replace him... L O L. Oh it was hilariously bad.
Von_Lohengram
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Not a movie, but this Korean TV Series adaption is brilliant:
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prinCZess
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Watched Dirty Pair: Project Eden, subtitled, because I'd never actually seen any of the 'movies' in the franchise and supposedly this is kind've the stereotypical one to start at. Enjoyed it a lot, even though the story's kind of an afterthought or sideshow to any reason to watch and there's 3 or 4 pretty long sequences that are just travel or gunfights or infiltration or the like set to actually-pretty-catchy 80s Japanese knockoff pop-rock where sound effects or dialogue are absent entirely. But it is catchy knockoff pop-rock.
Which, combined with the physical comedy gags (one character getting spooked-out by her own reflection in a mirror early in the show as an easy one), a 'guest character' that features prominently, and a chase/fight sequence in a diabolicalcastle laboratory that might as well have had lightning-strikes flashing whenever it's shown on-screen...Made me realize a really apt comparison for the show (at least in my mind) is Scooby-Doo. It just hits a lot of the same buttons in terms of 'style' and storyline. Just with the Mystery Inc. gang swapped-out for two girls with guns and their special movie-guest who helps solve the mystery...Though he's honestly more aggravating than any guest Scooby and the gang ever had on their show.
Anyhow, special note besides the Scooby-Doo comparison because they occurred to me while watching is the music (which I suppose I've already mentioned), how much I like the 'lots of buttons and swoops and details' era of backgrounds*, and the opening theme, which is noteworthy largely because it does that 80s, funky-colors, nekkid-lady silhouette doing things interspersed with abstract art thing that...I do not know the name of or how to describe stylistically besides the clunky description offered, but that I always shorthand mentally to being the James Bond-movie opening style...And I don't think I've ever actually seen any media that uses that kind of thing that I dislike.
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Last two here in terms of atmosphere definitely give 'Scooby-Doo' vibes, don't they?
Which, combined with the physical comedy gags (one character getting spooked-out by her own reflection in a mirror early in the show as an easy one), a 'guest character' that features prominently, and a chase/fight sequence in a diabolical
Anyhow, special note besides the Scooby-Doo comparison because they occurred to me while watching is the music (which I suppose I've already mentioned), how much I like the 'lots of buttons and swoops and details' era of backgrounds*, and the opening theme, which is noteworthy largely because it does that 80s, funky-colors, nekkid-lady silhouette doing things interspersed with abstract art thing that...I do not know the name of or how to describe stylistically besides the clunky description offered, but that I always shorthand mentally to being the James Bond-movie opening style...And I don't think I've ever actually seen any media that uses that kind of thing that I dislike.
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Last two here in terms of atmosphere definitely give 'Scooby-Doo' vibes, don't they?
What's it with these giant pipes around sci-fi laboratories anyway? Surely the water-demand and waste-production aren't that much?
The Aliens franchise was pretty influential on sci-fi in general, and anime was no exception.
Actually, there are a ton of sound effects from both Alien and Aliens used in a lot of '80s and '90s anime.
bintananth
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That was a great movie. My twin sis and a sadly deceased sister-in-law both did X-rated things with Heath Ledger before he died.
I'd be surprised if they were the only ones who glomped him because my youngest sis was little when that was released and was completely enamoured with him.