Breaking News Shinzo Abe Resigning as PM Due to Health Issues

[Bacle]

Ok, so, this is a big shake up. I can completely sympthathize with wanting to resign when faced with that condition, however.

But he did not name a successor, and this means things are very much in flux.

 

[Arlos]

Wow, a politician that step down when he has a medical condition.
How novel.
On another note, it wouldn’t surprise me if succession was taken care of in a hush hush before the announcement, that would be a very japanese thing to do.

 

[gral]

But he did not name a successor, and this means things are very much in flux.

The succession will be decided by the faction heads of the LDP(if it hasn't been decided already, as Arlos said), just as it has ever been, since the creation of the party.

 

[TriforcedLink]

Don't be fooled. The Japanese never retire and resign for their job is like marraige, they never part until death. This is only a cover-up for his final solution to Japan's birth rate decline. Soon we'll be hearing reports of Abe pulling a Segata and making those degenerate neet weebs breed whether they like it or not.

Spoiler: Hikikomori BTFO

 

[Abhorsen]

Ok, so, this is a big shake up. I can completely sympthathize with wanting to resign when faced with that condition, however.

Oof. I have that too. That's no fun at all, and mine's just moderate. Hopefully they can put it into remission.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Don't be fooled. The Japanese never retire and resign for their job is like marraige, they never part until death. This is only a cover-up for his final solution to Japan's birth rate decline. Soon we'll be hearing reports of Abe pulling a Segata and making those degenerate neet weebs breed whether they like it or not.

Spoiler: Hikikomori BTFO

Here is a truth, women and feminism is why the birthrate is down. Even the fucking UN have stated that when you introduce education and feminism for women, the birthrate drops. Its in a fucking report. Its fucking acknowledged by them. Women are the problem. Can men also be an issue? Yes. But women are the primary problem.

 

[Deleted member 88]

I wonder how this will affect Japan’s ongoing remilitarization efforts. Hopefully the next PM is willing to continue the work on amending the constitution.

 

[Terthna]

Here is a truth, women and feminism is why the birthrate is down. Even the fucking UN have stated that when you introduce education and feminism for women, the birthrate drops. Its in a fucking report. Its fucking acknowledged by them. Women are the problem. Can men also be an issue? Yes. But women are the primary problem.

Well no; not really. In most cases, the birthrate goes down as prosperity goes up. There's just no more immediate benefit to having children (as a source of cheap physical labor, primarily), and you don't have to worry about needing spares in case some of them die, so there's less incentive to have all that many. In Japan's case, they have the additional problem of it being near impossible to find the time to establish and maintain relationships; nearly every waking moment for the average Japanese person is consumed by their job.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Well no; not really. In most cases, the birthrate goes down as prosperity goes up. There's just no more immediate benefit to having children (as a source of cheap physical labor, primarily), and you don't have to worry about needing spares in case some of them die, so there's less incentive to have all that many. In Japan's case, they have the additional problem of it being near impossible to find the time to establish and maintain relationships; nearly every waking moment for the average Japanese person is consumed by their job.

And the "solution" apparently for Japan, is the same one for Europe, import lots of guys from poorer countries

Specifically the ones who'll probably not get along with any other migrants and want to impose their society on others and even potentially brutally punish a man for drawing anime tiddies and so on

I don't think people like being pressured to get married and have kids

 

[Terthna]

And the "solution" apparently for Japan, is the same one for Europe, import lots of guys from poorer countries

Specifically the ones who'll probably not get along with any other migrants and want to impose their society on others and even potentially brutally punish a man for drawing anime tiddies and so on

I don't think people like being pressured to get married and have kids

That may be the solution from a globalist perspective, but the Japanese would never go along with that nonsense. No, the solution they seem to have decided on is diving head-first into robotics and AI development. After all, they don't need a sizable population if they have machines that can do most of the work.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

That may be the solution from a globalist perspective, but the Japanese would never go along with that nonsense. No, the solution they seem to have decided on is diving head-first into robotics and AI development. After all, they don't need a sizable population if they have machines that can do most of the work.

Problem I've heard before is that surprisingly they're not all that tech-skilled or use tech that much everyday when it comes to the majority of the population

 

[Terthna]

Problem I've heard before is that surprisingly they're not all that tech-skilled or use tech that much everyday when it comes to the majority of the population

For the vast majority, that is correct; but they don't need to be. The comparatively few tech-savvy people among them will develop, utilize, and maintain the technology. The rest will just busy themselves with creating ever greater stacks of pointless paperwork.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

For the vast majority, that is correct; but they don't need to be. The comparatively few tech-savvy people among them will develop, utilize, and maintain the technology. The rest will just busy themselves with creating ever greater stacks of pointless paperwork.

Hopefully they figure out the tech to become cyborgs or make iron-wombs or increase fertility and such, though

 

[LordsFire]

Problem I've heard before is that surprisingly they're not all that tech-skilled or use tech that much everyday when it comes to the majority of the population

A big part of this is that the home PC cultural trend didn't take off in Japan like it did in the US and much of Europe. That makes a lot of difference with personal tech aptitude.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

A big part of this is that the home PC cultural trend didn't take off in Japan like it did in the US and much of Europe. That makes a lot of difference with personal tech aptitude.

I think even if they are more tech-savvy now, their tech in a way is STILL rather cut-off from ours, I think they're surprisingly unaware and only now relatively in on knowing that PC Culture exists and is full of crazies who cyberbully people for whatever they consider to be "bigoted" and such

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Well no; not really. In most cases, the birthrate goes down as prosperity goes up. There's just no more immediate benefit to having children (as a source of cheap physical labor, primarily), and you don't have to worry about needing spares in case some of them die, so there's less incentive to have all that many. In Japan's case, they have the additional problem of it being near impossible to find the time to establish and maintain relationships; nearly every waking moment for the average Japanese person is consumed by their job.

Sure. But primary biggest issue is women. Again, UN report itself said this to bring birth rate down, bring in feminism and education and contraceptives for women.

And spares? Lol, people are not even having kids. Having spares or not is largely irrelevant compared to that.

I don't think people like being pressured to get married and have kids

That may be the solution from a globalist perspective, but the Japanese would never go along with that nonsense. No, the solution they seem to have decided on is diving head-first into robotics and AI development. After all, they don't need a sizable population if they have machines that can do most of the work.

It doesn't matter anyway cause very little are getting married and having kids. Population contracts and I fundamentally don't see anyway it will ever go up again. So Japanese will eventually die out while machines chug along.

 

[LordsFire]

Sure. But primary biggest issue is women. Again, UN report itself said this to bring birth rate down, bring in feminism and education and contraceptives for women.

And spares? Lol, people are not even having kids. Having spares or not is largely irrelevant compared to that.




It doesn't matter anyway cause very little are getting married and having kids. Population contracts and I fundamentally don't see anyway it will ever go up again. So Japanese will eventually die out while machines chug along.

This cultural trend is not sustainable, ergo it must change at some point. Some nations are vulnerable to simple demographic replacement. This might be what does large swathes of Europe in. The US is more in doubt, because it's much more capable of integrating immigrants into its culture, but that capability isn't unlimited.

Japan? Japan is an island nation. They can literally just not allow any meaningful number of immigrants in, up until the point their culture crashes and shifts. If they had any powerful neighbors, they might get conquered first, but China is hitting the demographic bomb even harder, and none of their other nearby rivals have the population and economy to threaten them.

Most likely, Japan, and the rest of the world for that matter, will see the cultural backlash against feminism and excessive credentialling reverse this trend to at least something approaching demographic stability at some point in the 21st century.

Remember, 'baby boomers' are called that because of the massive population growth in that generation. In fifty years, when I'm approaching the natural ageing limit on my life, we could see cultural trends having moved just as hard away from where they are now, as they have since the Boomers were children.

 

[Terthna]

Sure. But primary biggest issue is women. Again, UN report itself said this to bring birth rate down, bring in feminism and education and contraceptives for women.

And spares? Lol, people are not even having kids. Having spares or not is largely irrelevant compared to that.

You do realize that Japan isn't exactly the most feminist first-world nation, don't you? Yet they also have one of the lowest birth-rates; shouldn't the opposite be the case, if your theory held true?

 

[LifeisTiresome]

You do realize that Japan isn't exactly the most feminist first-world nation, don't you? Yet they also have one of the lowest birth-rates; shouldn't the opposite be the case, if your theory held true?

First, its not my theory. Its stated in a UN report.

Also, Japanese women are feminist enough, education, wanting career, no wanting families, etc. I could go on.

You are going against the UN themselves here.

This cultural trend is not sustainable, ergo it must change at some point. Some nations are vulnerable to simple demographic replacement. This might be what does large swathes of Europe in. The US is more in doubt, because it's much more capable of integrating immigrants into its culture, but that capability isn't unlimited.

Japan? Japan is an island nation. They can literally just not allow any meaningful number of immigrants in, up until the point their culture crashes and shifts. If they had any powerful neighbors, they might get conquered first, but China is hitting the demographic bomb even harder, and none of their other nearby rivals have the population and economy to threaten them.

Most likely, Japan, and the rest of the world for that matter, will see the cultural backlash against feminism and excessive credentialling reverse this trend to at least something approaching demographic stability at some point in the 21st century.

Remember, 'baby boomers' are called that because of the massive population growth in that generation. In fifty years, when I'm approaching the natural ageing limit on my life, we could see cultural trends having moved just as hard away from where they are now, as they have since the Boomers were children.

Your position that is this current downtrend will change cause reasons. The current situation heavily favors women, they enjoy it. Media and education heavily enforces not to have kids and to work, etc. Some people here mention about conservatives having kids, but they could go to college or university or get influenced by pop culture and boom no kids.

Could what you say happen of feminism facing a backlash? Possible but highly unlikely cause as what a lefty male advocate group states, there is a women are wonderful effect and we can't have the women be unhappy now can we?

 

[Arlos]

Japan problem is that they are literally working themselves to deaths, on top of that, they have a crazy national debts, so they can’t afford the recession that would be necessary to adapt their economy to their declining population and allow them to bounce back up.
Oh, and they are also wayyyy behind in adapting tech to the workplace.
Feminism is almost a non-factor here, because they have so many more important problem.
Not to say there are no ambitious woman, but most are not keen to work to their literal deaths for a corporation, even though the government is pushing for it to save the economy.
Anyways, that’s a bit of a derail.