Serious question about anti-Semitism.

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Pretty much litterally any one else would have just kicked the Palastinians out by now, sad truth is Israel treats them better then other arab countries do. Mostly because the Palastinians are back stabbing assholes who have burned all their bridges but there you go.

That's because the other Arab countries grabbed all their undesirables, dumped them in a shithole and then paid them to lie about their ethnicity.

Palestinians haven't existed since the Roman's obliterated their asses and what the conflict in the middle can be summed as being is this.

"Two groups of the children of foreign invaders occupying a strip of land fighting over ruins that don't rightly belong to either of them but to the religion both groups Hate and are actively trying to destroy".

There is no moral reason to care about Israel, only strategic. IE if they ever lose they lob 500 nukes at our enemies and save us the trouble.

Support it out of deep cynicism and a desire to see a sword of damocles hanging over the rest of that region but there's no other reason.

There's also no objective reason to support Palestinians, they aren't even a real people.

As to Jerusalem itself, it doesn't belong to either group. It belongs to the Pope who should be holding it in trust for all Christendom. Too bad the Vatican is a commie infested disaster but ah well.

I say this as someone who isn't particularly religious but recognizes how religion works.

Only Christians own the holy land. It was by the blood of their murdered God that they have the right to possess it.

A god betrayed by one group and rejected by other.

No right to neither and the one that does is forbidden from stating its claim without massed public outcry

 

[Zachowon]

The big difference between our money in Israel and our troops in SK is SK is based off strategic interests whereas our Israeli interests mainly come from political Zionism. It’s not so much that it’s in strategic interests but more so the interests of people who support Israeli nationalism living in the US, who are more often than not not American nationalists, or who condemn American nationalism.

SK is more then strategic.
It has also been a major political centric area once the USSR fell.

Also, I wanna point out that the ADS system we are putting on our tanks..is Israeli.
We didn't even make it.
They also buy a lot of aircraft from us.

And lordsfire pointed out plenty more

 

[FriedCFour]

Also, I wanna point out that the ADS system we are putting on our tanks..is Israeli.
We didn't even make it.
They also buy a lot of aircraft from us.

And lordsfire pointed out plenty more

They also stole our nukes and most recently have welcomed back a spy who leaked many things to Israel with Netanyahu himself coming to embrace him, among many other such issues, but the main problem is that our American Zionist Lobby has a ridiculous amount of sway over American politics and are extremely nationalistic but only for Israel. When it comes to America they are either outright liberal progressives or at best tend to be soft civic nationalists which isn’t nationalism at all, and nearly all also work to condemn and fight and destroy anyone who wants America to have the same sort of nationalism that Israel has.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

China is the one who controls the strings.

It must be utterly destroyed as a nation and divided into 7 different countries one of which needs to be under Japanese control and another under Korean and another under Mongolian.

No Chinese ethnic group can ever be allowed self rule ever again.

Slay the dragon before spazzing about a broken star.

 

[Zachowon]

They also stole our nukes and most recently have welcomed back a spy who leaked many things to Israel with Netanyahu himself coming to embrace him, among many other such issues, but the main problem is that our American Zionist Lobby has a ridiculous amount of sway over American politics and are extremely nationalistic but only for Israel.

I don't see it.
Only what, three high members of the demd fsvor Isreal while people like the squad are pro Palestine?

And we let SK have no missle defenses until we personally put a system there

China is the one who controls the strings.

Eh.
In some ways.
In others no

 

[FriedCFour]

I don't see it.
Only what, three high members of the demd fsvor Isreal while people like the squad are pro Palestine?

The entire democrat leadership, including VP, President, most of the presidents cabinet, house speaker and senate majority leadership along with much of the other senators and congressional reps. So the top dogs and those who follow them.

 

[Zachowon]

The entire democrat leadership, including VP, President, most of the presidents cabinet, house speaker and senate majority leadership along with much of the other senators and congressional reps. So the top dogs and those who follow them.

And yet the popular younger ones and thier growing base are against it.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

Eh.
In some ways.
In others no

In all ways, Biden is a Vichy puppet, the third Chinese Asset in the white house in as many decades.

They run 99% of our IC no matter how much you wanna deny it and all the banks causing all the problems were founded by Scottish Drug Dealers out of Hong Kong.

The Khans did nothing wrong, nor did the Empire of Japan.

Sina delenda este.

It must not exist by 2050 or the world will be under the chains of the Dragon and humanity will be doomed to a slow extinction.

 

[LindyAF]

Nonsense. There's a lot of strategic interest both in having a regional ally, and more pragmatically, in having a different target for the Islamic terrorists to spend their attention and money on.

Saudi Arabia is a regional ally. Israel does not meaningfully function as a regional ally for military purposes, as they do not fight with us in our wars, allow our military to move through their country as a staging ground or base of operations (as say Saudi Arabia did in Desert Storm). IIRC they don't even let the US military use their airspace.

Unlike many other countries in the Middle East, they also do not have much in the way of valuable natural resources (oil), which the US may be said to have an interest in keeping the price of low.

Israel's potential strategic value, even assuming the US continues waging endless wars in the Middle East, is at least as far as I can tell just intelligence cooperation.

 

[Zachowon]

In all ways, Biden is a Vichy puppet, the third Chinese Asset in the white house in as many decades.

They run 99% of our IC no matter how much you wanna deny it and all the banks causing all the problems were founded by Scottish Drug Dealers out of Hong Kong.

The Khans did nothing wrong, nor did the Empire of Japan.

Sina delenda este.

It must not exist by 2050 or the world will be under the chains of the Dragon and humanity will be doomed to a slow extinction.

I'm not going to even bother.

Even if I could shoe you the facts you would ignore it.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

The truth points to itself.

People are waking up.to it.

Slay the Dragon and worry about the fallen star when its an actual meaningful threat.

Meanwhile all these good Gweis hyperventilating about two groups of exiles is just what they want.

Yes gweilo, focus on the JQ Gweilo, nothing to see here gweilo!

 

[Cherico]

Saudi Arabia is a regional ally. Israel does not meaningfully function as a regional ally for military purposes, as they do not fight with us in our wars, allow our military to move through their country as a staging ground or base of operations (as say Saudi Arabia did in Desert Storm). IIRC they don't even let the US military use their airspace.

Unlike many other countries in the Middle East, they also do not have much in the way of valuable natural resources (oil), which the US may be said to have an interest in keeping the price of low.

Israel's potential strategic value, even assuming the US continues waging endless wars in the Middle East, is at least as far as I can tell just intelligence cooperation.

considering how much the CIA sucks at their stated job of actually gathering intel thats actually a pretty big deal.

 

[Zachowon]

The truth points to itself.

People are waking up.to it.

Slay the Dragon and worry about the fallen star when its an actual meaningful threat.

Meanwhile all these good Gweis hyperventilating about two groups of exiles is just what they want.

Yes gweilo, focus on the JQ Gweilo, nothing to see here gweilo!

The military is switching to focus fully on the two biggest threats to the country/world.
China and Russia

 

[LindyAF]

China is the one who controls the strings.

It must be utterly destroyed as a nation and divided into 7 different countries one of which needs to be under Japanese control and another under Korean and another under Mongolian.

No Chinese ethnic group can ever be allowed self rule ever again.

Slay the dragon before spazzing about a broken star.

Not really?

China isn't us and they aren't our friends, but this warmongering against China is both misguided and stupid.

China isn't "controlling the strings." They are merely a large, populous country which was largely undeveloped who it was convenient for US elites to sell out US manufacturing to. Much like muslims and arabs, the issues they create for the historic/heritage American Nation are almost entirely caused by it being convenient in terms of ideology or profit for the US elites to allow.

Yes, I'm sure they'd still be doing some fucked up shit in China without this, but why should we give a shit about what Chinese do to each other in their own lands?

Even the issues I see with our relationship with Israel fall into this mold - the issue with our relationship with Israel is not so much due to the behavior of Israel, but rather it's due to the behavior of US elites and organizations.

 

[TyrantTriumphant]

The Khans did nothing wrong, nor did the Empire of Japan.

This is completely nuts. The Empire of Japan certainly did wrong. The list of atrocities they committed upon the Chinese are beyond counting.

It's important to distinguish between the communist leadership of China and the Chinese people as a whole. While many Chinese are loyal communists that hardly means that all of them are.

For instance there are a large amount of Christians in China and that number continues to grow despite the oppression of their evil leaders. I wish that the Chinese people were liberated from communist oppression, not destroyed.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Saudi Arabia is a regional ally. Israel does not meaningfully function as a regional ally for military purposes, as they do not fight with us in our wars, allow our military to move through their country as a staging ground or base of operations (as say Saudi Arabia did in Desert Storm). IIRC they don't even let the US military use their airspace.

Unlike many other countries in the Middle East, they also do not have much in the way of valuable natural resources (oil), which the US may be said to have an interest in keeping the price of low.

Israel's potential strategic value, even assuming the US continues waging endless wars in the Middle East, is at least as far as I can tell just intelligence cooperation.

The US is building a military base near Beer-Sheba. Israel is also the location of the WRSA-I, one of the US's largest stockpiles of military equipment to allow US forces to quickly restock if they're engaged in the middle east or European theatres.

There's also a pretty long list of Israeli gear the US buys for its own use, and research they've shared with the US ranging from Israeli drone manufacturing to targeting systems to missiles to armor to guns.

The IDF also regularly sends parts of its army to help train US troops in the kinds of combat they specialize in.

There's a fair bit more than just "shares some intelligence" going on between the US and Israel.

 

[Cherico]

This is completely nuts. The Empire of Japan certainly did wrong. The list of atrocities they committed upon the Chinese are beyond counting.

It's important to distinguish between the communist leadership of China and the Chinese people as a whole. While many Chinese are loyal communists that hardly means that all of them are.

For instance there are a large amount of Christians in China and that number continues to grow despite the oppression of their evil leaders. I wish that the Chinese people were liberated from communist oppression, not destroyed.

At the end of the day the Chinese Communist party has the issue that it is not a legitiment government of china.

The 4 olds campain more or less ensured that they could never enjoy the protections afforded by tradition and the Deng Era lost them the protections of ideology, all they have left is propaganda, the miltary and the economy, and when those start falling they all do.

I think the next chinese regime will be a more traditionalist one and will get along better with the rest of the world.

 

[LindyAF]

At the end of the day the Chinese Communist party has the issue that it is not a legitiment government of china.

The 4 olds campain more or less ensured that they could never enjoy the protections afforded by tradition and the Deng Era lost them the protections of ideology, all they have left is propaganda, the miltary and the economy, and when those start falling they all do.

I think the next chinese regime will be a more traditionalist one and will get along better with the rest of the world.

Legitimate is whoever actually rules, anything else is just virtue signaling.

Also, I think we're pretty much there at least as far as you can expect this to go.

China's always going to "not get along with the rest of the world" for the same reasons Russia doesn't. Because "the rest of the world" means "the US sphere of influence." While neither China nor Russia are US peers, both are properly sovereign countries, whereas most of the rest of the world is de-facto reliant on the US for their continued existence. There's naturally always going to be more tension due to that.

I don't really see how it really matters if China is run by a managerial bureaucracy with a red star painted on or a managerial bureaucracy with a white and blue one. I'd bet that in a counterfactual world where the KMT won, a KMT-run China wouldn't look too different today from Deng or Xi run China.

 

[King Arts]

I'm gonna drop a few pics to show what Palestinians think of jews.

Remember this @Hlaalu Agent, @King Arts.

Yeah someone already said that that is just edgy words. Because Israel and Palestinians are in a state of conflict it does not mean the war is a war to the knife. Look at ww2 America said when it was done Japanese would be spoken only in hell. Yet there was no Japanese genocide. You are American right? Let’s do a thought experiment let’s say Native Americans somehow get access to alien technology. And they decided to reclaim their historic homeland from the US they are able to inflict thousands to one KD ratios on the US military and shove most Americans onto small patches of land. There would still be American insurgents or you could call them terrorists I guess. Now these freedom fighters would be a lot like Terrorists and they would definitely post things that said we want to recreate the trail of tears or Andrew Jackson did not do enough. If this was shown in Europe and people there said ughh the Americans are Nazis they got what they deserve is that fair?

You are demonstrating ignorance.

During the Cold War, it was strategically crucial to keep the USSR from gaining control of the region and gaining a chokehold on the world's oil supply. Part of Iran's antipathy towards the US comes from our involvement in that era.

In the 90's and 2000's, pulling out of the Middle East (after some punitive bombings of Al-Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan) would have been wise, I agree, but at this point with China trying to become world hegemon, that's no longer a sane option.

Granted, the nation-building nonsense needs to stop, but preventing Iran from controlling the Straits of Hormuz, or China from moving in to do likewise, isn't really optional. We could do that with nothing but our air bases in Saudi and the Navy, and I'd support pulling out of pretty much everything else.

Even if we hadn't gone into the middle east during the Cold War though, the Iranians would still hate us. Even if atheist degeneracy hadn't started to rot the core of western culture out, they'd still hate us.

They're a radical islamist state. We are not Islamic. That's all the justification they want or need.

You seem very ignorant where is your proof that if Iran gets nukes the first thing it will do is trigger MAD against us? Your words are like the idiots in the early 2000s who said the Iraqis are terrorists and hate us because of our freedoms. No they hate us for actions our government did. I don’t care about the hostage that happened over 50 years ago boomers can stop crying about it. The nations Iran bitches about and falls devils are Israel and America. Sure those nation can be secular. But why don’t they call other non Islamic nations devils example of Japan, China, Russia. SWITZERLAND. No Iran would dislike us for our actions even if they were a secular democracy.

In all ways, Biden is a Vichy puppet, the third Chinese Asset in the white house in as many decades.

They run 99% of our IC no matter how much you wanna deny it and all the banks causing all the problems were founded by Scottish Drug Dealers out of Hong Kong.

The Khans did nothing wrong, nor did the Empire of Japan.

Sina delenda este.

It must not exist by 2050 or the world will be under the chains of the Dragon and humanity will be doomed to a slow extinction.

What’s with the rage boner at China? Like China will lead to human extinction BS do you have any proof that China is different from any other rising empire trying to oust the old one but that never led to human extinction in the past.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

For instance there are a large amount of Christians in China and that number continues to grow despite the oppression of their evil leaders. I wish that the Chinese people were liberated from communist oppression, not destroyed.

Nestorian heretics lol.

But that aside, let then be free and rule their own Christian splinter nation, under some sort of vigilance by Korea.

No Chinese group should ever be allowed self rule again.

Theyre too dangerous.

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What’s with the rage boner at China? Like China will lead to human extinction BS do you have any proof that China is different from any other rising empire trying to oust the old one but that never led to human extinction in the past.

You think China is like any other Empire? Other Empires let people not their own group exist.

China has a mandate thats "kill or enslave everything not Chinese". For fuck sake they even refer to us as walking corpses