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PsihoKekec

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I would recommend The First Law triology by Joe Abercrombie, as well as Best Served Cold and Heroes, set in the same world.
The gist of triology is the party of heroes traveling to the end of the world to find a weapon that can stop the big bad, while crippled inquisitor is trying to unravel mysterious plots again the kingdom and his old friend is dealing with incompetence and infighting during military campaign in the North.
 

Cyan Saiyajin

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Say, anybody here recommend Larry Correia’s Monster Hunter Nation? Is it good or not? Does it have a strangely “diverse” cast to tell Libtards off?

I enjoyed what I've read of the series. Although honest I've always liked his Grimnoir Chronicles more. And yes, yes it does.
 

Emperor Tippy

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Has anybody else here read Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series?

The first book was decent. Actually the first few books were alright, but it went off the rails maybe half way through the series and dropped down to 'meh'.

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Let's see, recommendations.

The Troy Rising series by John Ringo. Honestly probably the best series that he has ever written (and inspired by Schlock Mercenary). Highly recommended for anyone interested in sci-fi (and it is distinctly lacking in the "Oh John Ringo No" issues of some of his other works).

The Empire of Man series (by John Ringo and David Weber) is the book series that I would most like to see made into an HBO miniseries. Again a very good sci-fi series, and a decent coming of age series.

To round out the John Ringo related recs, the Blade Tide Rising series. Engineered "zombie" virus basically wipes out humanity, and the book series follows a family's journey through the aftermath and attempts to rebuild. The best recentish zombie apocalypse piece of fiction, and could have made a decent TV series if the "Oh John Ringo No" issues (nothing approaching Paladin of Shadows levels) were smoothed over.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Anybody here recommend Michael Moorcock’s works? I’m sorta iffy, just in-case because it sounds according to TvTropes that he’s bowing down to SJWs though for some stuff that actually deserves a “What the Fuck?” involving fictional rape
 

Vargas Fan

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I've only ever read his Nomad of the Time Streams trilogy, The Warlord of the Air, The Land Leviathan and The Steel Tsar and quite enjoyed them. They're fairly easy going. I haven't read any others.

Ben Bova isn't a bad read, either.
 

CarlManvers2019

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I've only ever read his Nomad of the Time Streams trilogy, The Warlord of the Air, The Land Leviathan and The Steel Tsar and quite enjoyed them. They're fairly easy going. I haven't read any others.

Ben Bova isn't a bad read, either.

Okay, that said, until the WOKE age is over I don’t really plan on reading books by WOKE authors until they calm down at the very least

Also, looked this “OH JOHN RINGO NO” guy....he’s really conservative even in the pre-2010s?

Gotta say he breaks the stereotypes, I know I shouldn’t judge a book by its cover but he’s really NOT a prude

More Team America World Police type conservative than all the dumb evil hypocritical prudish sexist racist right wing stereotypes
 

Vargas Fan

Head over heels in love :)
WOKE authors?

TMA.

Too Many Acronyms. :)

Saying that, I did try to read Elric, and while it wasn't unreadable I just couldn't get into it and I've read fantasy ranging from Gemmell, Stephen Donaldson, Pratchett, Eddings, Feist, Goodkind, Tolkien etc, a wide variety.
 

CarlManvers2019

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I haven't read it yet, skimmed a bit, but man this book was made in fucking 2007

And it looks like the author predicted some stuff occurring, like Republicans having a surprisingly ethnically and religiously diverse populace in the USA and Europe going crazy
 

Navarro

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Illium/Olympos is also a pretty good series - I especially liked Simmons' portrayal of the society on future Earth, which is essentially doomed by having forgotten its own history.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Isaac Asimov’s Robot/Galactic Empire/Foundation series, stories hundreds to generations to thousands of years apart, even in space, humans find both old and new problems arising

Somehow there’s not so much action or violence needed here

Gotta say though, I think Asimov’s romanticizing hard life, manual labor and our short lives here and it even shows when thousands of years into the future people still live only less than 100 years(unless they’re Spacers who have/had robots, genetic engineering and specific diets)and do manual labor and kinda looks down on transhumanist and post scarcity societies as definitely putting the death knell on themselves of their own choice by NOT having many kids due to not needing them and being really careful when reproducing
 
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prinCZess

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I'm going to recommend an author instead of a single book: Elizabeth Moon.

Deed of Paksenarrion is a series she writes that's something of a 'typical D&D fantasy' setting, but it's pulled off really well and the main character adds a lot to it by being a full-on Knight Templar type that is played straight for a change and without typical 'going to extremes' that archetype usually relies on for drama or conflict.

Her Heris Serrano books are, I think, the only science-fiction books I've ever read which incorporate fox hunting--and, that little irrelevant detail aside, are fun adventure stories in a universe that gradually and enjoyably gets 'bigger' and more well-developed throughout (I know that's probably a pretty typical sounding compliment to make...But the way it's done is fun to see and there's a good bit of bits and bobs in later books that are referenced and foreshadowed in earlier ones but it 'slips in' relatively innocously until they come up), and the character(s) are the most fun--the most difficult part of the series is easily when the focus shifts from Heris Serrano herself four or five books in just because she's such a fun character to read and the new one has a much different voice & tone to her.

My personal favorites are the Vatta's War series of books she has--once again because the main character is a hoot to read about and perhaps especially because they start much differently and a good part of the focus is on space-economics and space-trading (banks and negotiation show up in the first books more than gunfights or action scenes, I'm pretty sure) rather than more standard sci-fi fare, and it only gradually transitions into more of a 'wartime' novel from there.
It's still ongoing, too-with the most recent release from two years ago and another in the works...Though I'm a bit more iffy on them yet just because the attempt is being made to expand the universe in the same way her Serrano books did and I'm not yet sure if she's going to be successful...But the first 'series' of books are definitely worth reading for anyone who hasn't.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Big Boys Don’t Cry by Tom Kratman

It’s a relatively short story about a Ratha(future AI tank)named Maggie/Magnolia who fights for humankind in the stars

Only turns out it’s not as noble as it sounds, as AI Tanks follow orders without question way more than any human being and there is certain conditioning for them to do so and they’ll even do things they would actually be disgusted by. On orders.

The afterword talks of how there’s a problem with completely removing human soldiers from war, sure they’re flawed and likely to also do terrible things, but even they are more likely and able to rebel against horrible orders

Lots of action scenes too, the tanks are willing to give up their lives for the mission and being huge tanks doesn’t necessarily make it a sure win
 

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Star Trek: Discovery: The Enterprise War by John Jackson Miller

First things first - aside from a few passages involving characters from Discovery, some mentions of Discovery S1's war with the Klingons, and Spock running into the mystery character from Discovery S2, this book has nothing to do with any of the actual plotlines or events from the series. It's a story of Christopher Pike and his Enterprise crew. Nothing more, nothing less.

Second - this book is pretty long. It's about 72 chapters long, including the prologue and epilogue, although most chapters aren't that long on their own. The shorter length of the chapters does a lot to keep the book's pacing from wearing you out, as does the interesting storyline and opponents.

Anyway, the basic plot is this: the Enterprise is in a super dangerous nebula, cutoff from the outside world, except for super low frequency subspace signals (basically space VLF radio). They run into the Boundless, who are a motley group of aliens who impress anybody who travels into the nebula into their army to fight another group of aliens. Naturally, some Enterprise people get captured by the Boundless, so Pike has to rescue them and sort out the whole war thing too.

Since the book is A) barely tied to anything in the actual Discovery show and B) about Pike and his crew, it's actually really good. The Boundless get fleshed out pretty well, since there are Starfleet POV characters in the trenches of the war, and all the characters have reasonable behaviors and motivations. The biggest flaw of the book is that its message is applied hamhandedly - basically, it's that "how you win is as important as winning itself" thing, but extended to military hardware* in a way that makes zero sense. Sadly, that is on brand for Discovery.

*There is some kickass power armor in this novel, and Pike is a fucking idiot for refusing to take the blueprints that were offered in good faith for helping end the war.
 
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I finished reading The Misplaced Legion by Harry Turtledove.

Basically a roman detachment is ISOTed to a fantasy Byzantium sort of.

Not sure if i will stick with the series or not(I've read the spoilers on Wikipedia).

Its decent for the most part, and definitely intended for Byzantinophiles, but beyond the premise its sort of unimaginative?

Avshar is basically a Witch King rip off, given Turtledove's original idea was apparently a roman legion in Middle Earth.

Its basically Byzantium, with fantasy Sicily and fantasy uh Scandinavia, with Yezd being the Umayyads I guess?

I can really see why Turtledove gets criticism for parallelism, and I haven't even read his more famous stuff.

He's good, but honestly isn't very good when it comes to imagining things that break the mold of actual history.
 

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