Realistic monarchical restorations that never actually occurred?

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Which realisic monarchical restorations never actually occurred? So far, I could think of:

-France in the early 1870s. This would have been especially plausible had Henri, Count of Chambord died a decade or more earlier. (His and his sisters' lifespans can be switched for the sake of this scenario, if necessary, with him rather than his sister getting and dying from typhus in 1864.)
-Portugal during the Antonio Salazar era. Though whether this restored Portuguese monarchy would have actually survived the Carnation Revolution is unclear, to say the least.
-If there is no Nazi rise to power in Germany in the 1930s and a more moderate right-wing authoritarian (but less totalitarian) regime emerges in Germany instead, you could see a Hohenzollern restoration occur in Germany as a way of giving this new German regime greater legitimacy. Though again it's unclear whether such a restored German monarchy would actually survive any subsequent German transition to democracy.
-The Hapsburgs could eventually get restored in Austria and/or Hungary if there is no Anschluss, no World War II at all, and/or no Fall of France in 1940. But this would almost certainly require them permanently giving up any goals of territorial revision because otherwise the Little Entente will never actually agree to their restoration. But otherwise it could occur in the 1940s or later, such as in the 1950s in Hungary after Miklos Horthy's death. In such a scenario, Miklos Horthy could designate Otto von Hapsburg as his successor or something like that, similar to how Francisco Franco designed Juan Carlos as his successor in Spain after his death in 1975 in real life.
-Albania in 1997 if the referendum there would not have been rigged against the monarchy, as it apparently was in real life: 1997 Albanian monarchy referendum - Wikipedia Maybe they could get another referendum in regards to this in the future? Just an idea.

Anyway, which additional realistic examples of this can you think of? Thoughts on this?
 
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Honestly none really. The only restorations I know of is the French monarchy after Napoleon and that lasted a generation before being overthrown again.
 
Honestly none really. The only restorations I know of is the French monarchy after Napoleon and that lasted a generation before being overthrown again.

The Spanish monarchy after Franco's death. That one still survives/lasts up to the present-day.
 
Maybe Bulgaria after the Cold War? Historically they elected their last monarch Prime Minister, after all.

Yeah, sounds plausible enough. The issue there was that Bulgarians had such high hopes and expectations for him that ultimately ended up being unfulfilled even though he did take Bulgaria into both the EU and NATO. The end of Communism has ironically been rather harsh for Bulgaria due to mass emigration and low fertility severely reducing Bulgarian birth rates.
 
Honestly none really. The only restorations I know of is the French monarchy after Napoleon and that lasted a generation before being overthrown again.

Maybe Bulgaria after the Cold War? Historically they elected their last monarch Prime Minister, after all.

Do you think that the Afghan monarchy could have realistically been restored in 2001-2002 (after the Taliban's ouster) had the US had a different President during this time? Or, for that matter, that the Afghan monarchy could be restored in the future if the Taliban will ever get overthrown again?
 
Maybe Bulgaria after the Cold War? Historically they elected their last monarch Prime Minister, after all.
Yeah, sounds plausible enough. The issue there was that Bulgarians had such high hopes and expectations for him that ultimately ended up being unfulfilled even though he did take Bulgaria into both the EU and NATO. The end of Communism has ironically been rather harsh for Bulgaria due to mass emigration and low fertility severely reducing Bulgarian birth rates.
A Bulgarian said at WI Bulgarian Monarchy restored after Fall of Communism? that he found it very unlikely. Far more likely is Albania. Monarchy apparently actually won the 1997 referendum but the result was tampered.
 
A Bulgarian said at WI Bulgarian Monarchy restored after Fall of Communism? that he found it very unlikely. Far more likely is Albania. Monarchy apparently actually won the 1997 referendum but the result was tampered.

Well, they could hold a new referendum in Albania later on if necessary. Even right now could theoretically be doable. I wonder what the real margin of victory for the pro-monarchy side in Albania in 1997 was, though.

What do you think about Afghanistan?
 
Well, they could hold a new referendum in Albania later on if necessary. Even right now could theoretically be doable. I wonder what the real margin of victory for the pro-monarchy side in Albania in 1997 was, though.

What do you think about Afghanistan?
Prince Leka claimed the true result of the referendum was the reverse of the official result.
Afghanistan is discussed at 2001 Restoration of the Afghan Monarchy. Dan1988 is deeply skeptical.
 
Prince Leka claimed the true result of the referendum was the reverse of the official result.
Afghanistan is discussed at 2001 Restoration of the Afghan Monarchy. Dan1988 is deeply skeptical.

Putting the UN in charge of Afghanistan in 2001-2002 as a temporary measure does seem like a good idea, though:

And that, I think, is the crux of the problem as far as that is concerned. It seemed like the Bush II administration was hell-bent on invading Iraq pre-9/11, so Afghanistan became a big distraction it initially didn't want which got transformed into "the good war". To get sole focus on Afghanistan in any case, regardless of the government it ends up with, requires not entertaining the idea of invading Iraq from the get-go. That's hinge number one.

Hinge number two, getting a monarchical restoration requires attention to the quality of government that Afghanistan gets - if it's like OTL but with a King instead of a President, then no amount of initial goodwill is going to save the monarchy once it gets overthrown (remember, Karzai appointed a huge bunch of the Royal Family to positions in the GIRoA anyway). Hence my thinking that to get something like to work, while overcoming US reluctance to reinstating monarchies, probably requires handing the civilian aspect of it over to the UN, and in particular treat Afghanistan as if it was coming out of a Cambodia-like situation (if you believe the Taliban was as awful as the Khmer Rouge). Of course, the general overall setup the UN would use would basically be a copy-paste of East Timor (keeping in mind we were just barely a couple of years after that fateful referendum, so that would be on the back of everyone's mind), but the addition of bringing the former monarchy and the jirga system onboard leading to the restoration of Zahir Shah is what brings Cambodia - primarily UNTAC - to mind.
 
Do you think that the Afghan monarchy could have realistically been restored in 2001-2002 (after the Taliban's ouster) had the US had a different President during this time? Or, for that matter, that the Afghan monarchy could be restored in the future if the Taliban will ever get overthrown again?
Nope. It had been out of power too long and the US already had its puppet picked out.
 
Which realisic monarchical restorations never actually occurred? So far, I could think of:

-France in the early 1870s. This would have been especially plausible had Henri, Count of Chambord died a decade or more earlier. (His and his sisters' lifespans can be switched for the sake of this scenario, if necessary, with him rather than his sister getting and dying from typhus in 1864.)
-Portugal during the Antonio Salazar era. Though whether this restored Portuguese monarchy would have actually survived the Carnation Revolution is unclear, to say the least.
-If there is no Nazi rise to power in Germany in the 1930s and a more moderate right-wing authoritarian (but less totalitarian) regime emerges in Germany instead, you could see a Hohenzollern restoration occur in Germany as a way of giving this new German regime greater legitimacy. Though again it's unclear whether such a restored German monarchy would actually survive any subsequent German transition to democracy.
-The Hapsburgs could eventually get restored in Austria and/or Hungary if there is no Anschluss, no World War II at all, and/or no Fall of France in 1940. But this would almost certainly require them permanently giving up any goals of territorial revision because otherwise the Little Entente will never actually agree to their restoration. But otherwise it could occur in the 1940s or later, such as in the 1950s in Hungary after Miklos Horthy's death. In such a scenario, Miklos Horthy could designate Otto von Hapsburg as his successor or something like that, similar to how Francisco Franco designed Juan Carlos as his successor in Spain after his death in 1975 in real life.
-Albania in 1997 if the referendum there would not have been rigged against the monarchy, as it apparently was in real life: 1997 Albanian monarchy referendum - Wikipedia Maybe they could get another referendum in regards to this in the future? Just an idea.

Anyway, which additional realistic examples of this can you think of? Thoughts on this?
1.Mexico, if murdered by masons emperor left son.
2.Brasilia,if there was male candidate.
3.Poland in 1918,if our nationalists was monarchists,too.
 

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