Culture Pride Months and Commercialism

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Sure, but saying that skin color isn't heavily linked to culture now is just wrong.
I would still say that is wrong.

White people in New England don't share a whole lot in common with white people from Texas. And 'black culture's ignores the subgroups that have distinct cultures of their own.

A black person from a Jamaican background doesn't share a whole lot in common with a Somali refugee or immigrant, and both of those probably don't have a lot in common with a decendant of a slave living in Detroit.

And the various Asian cultures might punch you for putting them all under one banner.
 

FriedCFour

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And the various Asian cultures might punch you for putting them all under one banner.
They’ve still got their own month tho, so all the arguments against having a white history month apply to them. So, seeing as these will pretty much never go away, I think the better solution is to push for a white history month rather than shut it down, and leave them without a month. After all, America was founded by white men as I am so often told, and it is a white country.
 

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White people in New England don't share a whole lot in common with white people from Texas. And 'black culture's ignores the subgroups that have distinct cultures of their own.
Yes, but the subculture of 'New England White People' definitely exists, and that is linked to race. It's just that cultures aren't defined by race alone. There is no unifying 'white culture', there are many mostly white cultures.

and it is a white country
This I very much disagree with. It quite simply isn't one. You can say that France is a French Country, or German is a German country, but there are too many races (and even more cultures) for that to be true about America.
 

Bacle

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But every founder and the majority of the nation was white. How do you figure it isn’t?
Because the country is more than the 'majority' race, and frankly half the 'white people' in this country only became considered 'white' relatively recently.

Or are you going to pretend that the Irish, Italians, Poles, and non-Scott or non-English
'whites' weren't discriminated against by WASP assholes till JFK broke the mold.

We are not a 'white country', we are a melting pot of all skin colors.
 

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But every founder and the majority of the nation was white. How do you figure it isn’t?
If you go by the founders, we are an British country. And it might be a majority, but nowhere near close enough to be an overwhelming majority like european countries. For example, Germany is 78% German ethnicity, and in total, 90% of the population is German. France is 85% European. Poland is 97% Polish ethnicity. I could go on. These are what one might call White nations.

The US is 62% white, and that number is falling. That's nowhere near enough. On top of that, there is the implication of calling the US a white nation is implying that it isn't for other ethnicities, which is manifestly not true. America is not built on racial/ethnic bonds, but instead on ideals, hence the civic nationalism of America. America is for anyone who values freedom above all.
 

Bacle

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Why does a melting pot of all skin colors have history months and celebrations of all skin colors but white?
Because natural human skin color IS brown.

Whiteness is, when you get down to it, a genetic mutation/adaptation related to Vit D production in the skin.

Humanity originated in Africa around the equator, we are supposed be some shade of brown.

I got my degree in General Geology, and take a very long view of human and Earth history. Your focus on your 'whiteness' or on celebrating it seems rather, well dumb, to me.

I think the whole pride month thing, no matter the reason, is dumb. So don't feel like I just attacking 'whiteness' here either.
 

Bacle

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So it’s like an upgrade? That’s pretty cool.
Not really, it means we burn a lot easier and are far suseptable to skin cancer.

Even the freaking Inuit are better at handling the sun than us lily white cracker ass's.
 

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Why does a melting pot of all skin colors have history months and celebrations of all skin colors but white?
Two reasons. First, until recently there were two melting pots: One was the normal one we think of about America (consensual and gradual, including almost all races), the other was just for Africans, and was done by force and quickly through the Trans-atlantic Slave Trade + Suppression of ethnic beliefs of slaves. This second melting pot created black slave culture out of individuals from many different cultures. Black slave culture later became a couple of cultures over time, but these cultures were largely walled off from mixing with other cultures until relatively recently in American history, and some parts lingered even longer. Only in recent generations are they starting to mix, and this separation will take awhile to fix.

The other reason is that there are some people who hate the idea of the melting pot (or as they call it assimilation, which is wrong). These are called leftists (and also the white identitarians) who want to emphasize differences, and trying to set up this POC thing, and like setting up ways to celebrate the skin colors to attack the melting pot.

But as for ethnic celebrations, those are different, and white people have those as well (like St Patrick's Day). They are actually part of the melting pot. You basically end up with bastardized versions of these that everyone celebrates. This is also why calling it assimilation is a leftist lie. It's not that people just are absorbed in, the dominant culture (American) takes something from their culture and adds it to its own. This is what the melting pot does.
 
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FriedCFour

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This is what the melting pot does.
It seems like it’s been really good at getting people to tear down America personally. But really, when it gets to the point where “it’s okay to be white” or “white lives matter” loses you a job and is aggressively attacked, why isn’t the best thing to push against that a white history month?
 

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It seems like it’s been really good at getting people to tear down America personally. But really, when it gets to the point where “it’s okay to be white” or “white lives matter” loses you a job and is aggressively attacked, why isn’t the best thing to push against that a white history month?
No, it's done the exact opposite, and one of the way America is being attacked is by people attacking the melting pot idea. Meanwhile, an attempt to begin forging a white identity in America will just tear her apart even further. Just look at who wants white identity to exist: White supremicists/nationalists, who have stupid ideas in general, along with white wokes, who want it to exist to shit on it. But white identity (in the US) doesn't exist. Denying there is a white culture is a sure way to fuck up the leftist arguments, as it fractures the oppression hierarchy. Allowing them to assign whites as a group whole to a place in the hierarchy is a losing proposition. Instead, point out that there is no unifying white culture, and really, white people belong on a couple of different places on the hierarchy.
 
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