Philosophical-Social Discussion over Pornographic Materials

[FriedCFour]

It's also had some notable effects in combating cancer and in dealing with numerous other medical conditions, but research into it and its effective ingredients has been retarded for decades thanks to the work of moral busybodies who use the circular logic of "It's bad because it's illegal" and "it's illegal because it's bad." Not saying that's you, but I've seen this so many times from so many other people. Really the only thing I have against it is that it smells like skunk, and it really makes me wonder who was the first person who smelled that and thought it'd be a great idea to smoke it. Kind of like whoever smelled absinthe wormwood and thought it'd be a great idea to make booze out of it.

Absinthe is a fantastic booze, you take that back. Pot isn't amazing for you either and it comes with negatives too. Everything Bacle said about curing cancer is factless propaganda almost as bad as anti-vaxxers because it scares people off things that work but are painful and with heavy side effects and leads them to go with wishful thinking instead of what can actually save their own life.

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[Bacle]

It's also had some notable effects in combating cancer and in dealing with numerous other medical conditions, but research into it and its effective ingredients has been retarded for decades thanks to the work of moral busybodies who use the circular logic of "It's bad because it's illegal" and "it's illegal because it's bad." Not saying that's you, but I've seen this so many times from so many other people. Really the only thing I have against it is that it smells like skunk, and it really makes me wonder who was the first person who smelled that and thought it'd be a great idea to smoke it. Kind of like whoever smelled absinthe wormwood and thought it'd be a great idea to make booze out of it.

You get used to the smell after a while, particularly if you live in an area with an active skunk population anyway.

As well, different strains have different smells.

Some, like Bio Diesel and Chem Dog, have a definitely chemical/gasoline smell to them. Others, like Lemon Grass, have a citrus like aroma. You can get cannabis that smells piney, or smells like grapes, or some that almost smells like cotton candy.

Cannabis is a member of the same family of plants as hops, and the same way different blends of hops can give different tastes to beer, different genetics can give cannabis a wide array of aroma's.

Absinthe is a fantastic booze, you take that back. Pot isn't amazing for you either and it comes with negatives too. Everything Bacle said about curing cancer is factless propaganda almost as bad as anti-vaxxers because it scares people off things that work but are painful and with heavy side effects and leads them to go with wishful thinking instead of what can actually save their own life.

Complementary & Alternative Medicine Digest –June 2016

SIO is the premier multi-disciplinary professional organization for integrative oncology. A 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization, SIO enables communication, education, and research to occur by bringing together practitioners from multiple disciplines focused on the care of cancer patients and...

integrativeonc.org

My accounts of it curing at least breast cancer are firsthand recollections from coworkers who used it in place of chemo. Maybe they were bullshitting me, but I do not think so; the cancer fighting properties of the plant are something that I've heard about from multiple sources.

It does not work against all cancers, but it is not a placebo either.

 

[FriedCFour]

My accounts of it curing at least breast cancer are firsthand recollections from coworkers who used it in place of chemo. Maybe they were bullshitting me, but I do not think so; the cancer fighting properties of the plant are something that I've heard about from multiple sources.

It does not work against all cancers, but it is not a placebo either.

I don't buy it. I just showed oncologists who advocate its use and praise its benefits for helping with quality of life and managing side effects, say maybe it can help with some cancer, but the idea you should use it in place of chemo leads people to die.

 

[Bacle]

I don't buy it. I just showed oncologists who advocate its use and praise its benefits for helping with quality of life and managing side effects, say maybe it can help with some cancer, but the idea you should use it in place of chemo leads people to die.

I think it depends on how is it administered and what cancer it is trying to be used on.

Smoking it to deal with breast cancer probably won't help much. But a topical ointment applied directly to the affect area, used in combo with edibles (which metabolize differently than when it is smoked) could be more helpful.

There are also cannabanoids that are hard to come by and study, because getting them in a usable form requires harvesting the plant prematurely and processing it in rather specific fashions. There are other cannabanoids besides basic THC and CBD that have different uses, but have only recently gained any real attention in the scientific community.

 

[Captain X]

Absinthe is a fantastic booze, you take that back.

Have to admit that weed stinks though. All kinds of them where I live, and if you happen to step on one, bleh!

Pot isn't amazing for you either and it comes with negatives too.

Not as many as you'd think. And mostly negatives come from smoking it, because smoking anything is not really all that healthy for your lungs.

Everything Bacle said about curing cancer is factless propaganda almost as bad as anti-vaxxers because it scares people off things that work but are painful and with heavy side effects and leads them to go with wishful thinking instead of what can actually save their own life.

Dude, I know people alive today who were given months to live and they have two things in common - 1) they opted not to take chemo, and 2) they took part in a study of an alternative drug. It's a pretty tough sell as "all propaganda" when you know people.

 

[FriedCFour]

Not as many as you'd think. And mostly negatives come from smoking it, because smoking anything is not really all that healthy for your lungs.

I don't know, I've been around heavy pot smokers, before and after. There is a clear change in their overall behavior.

Dude, I know people alive today who were given months to live and they have two things in common - 1) they opted not to take chemo, and 2) they took part in a study of an alternative drug. It's a pretty tough sell as "all propaganda" when you know people.

And I know people who swear that their kids were perfectly normal and then one day their kids got a vaccination and suddenly they had autism. I just don't buy into it, and when getting narratives I trust Oncologists over them.

 

[Captain X]

And I trust cancer basically disappearing from people's bodies.

 

[FriedCFour]

And I trust cancer basically disappearing from people's bodies.

Which the oncologists I posted said they hadn't seen proof of.

 

[Terthna]

You don't think porn can cause any issues itself, even if it is viewed heavily at a young age?

That's a different issue; there are a lot of things that kids shouldn't be exposed to, but that doesn't mean adults should be stigmatized for indulging in them.

Except none of these revolve around the same manual release of dopamine that you use, do they? And also you clearly know fuck all about Christianity, of course everything pleasurable isn't bad inherently. What in the hell are you talking about? Of course not everything fun is evil. The big difference between the two is the direct dopamine release you build up to. And there are clearly big differences, because I don't think many couples are getting divorced with reading too much poetry as a reason for it.

I don't think they're getting divorced because of pornography; because after some further digging, there are a lot of issues with that study the article you posted a few days ago cited:

Study Links Watching Porn To Divorce

But some researchers and therapists are questioning the results

www.vocativ.com

In short, the study made a lot of assumptions based on the data, and did not account for other data points that may have had a drastic impact on the conclusion drawn from the results. I'll also note that even the people behind the study said that their research shouldn’t be used to conclude that porn is bad for marriage, which neatly undercuts your attempt to do just that.

I think neither should be illegal.

But you do think the usage of pornography should be shunned by everyone. Which honestly is the crux of our disagreement; because I don't agree, and I never will.

 

[Deleted member]

People smoking weed two doors down in an apartment or house have made me violently ill before. I can’t stand the smell of it. Smoke also causes cancer as an objective fact.

That said, marijuana is a real drug for real medical conditions, and can be used responsibly for recreational purposes, so I support legalising it, but I want it regulated like tobacco.

@FriedCFour Absinthe is amazing.