Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

[Karmic Acumen]

Then how the hell EU countries who don't buy it from Russia not only have industry, but also lower energy prices than Germany, which has some of the highest in the EU?

Romania has off-shore oil reserves (which they sold the rights to, unfortunately, because the government is made of commie cucks), and so does the UK, and worst comes to worst, the USA will ship oil when it wakes up from this fever dream, which will happen regardless of all the civil war blackpilling. The 60s were still worse than this, I'm told.

Ultimately, nuclear power will go forward once European nations start to look bad compared to african countries like Nigeria and Ghana. German hippies will sit down and shut up or will be made to, after half of them have frozen to death in the cold.

 

[Cherico]

If Trump had won reelection in 2020, none of this craziness wouldn't be happening.

We would have different craziness with more antifa terrorist attacks

 

[Karmic Acumen]

We would have different craziness with more antifa terrorist attacks

Antifa burned down one city and a half, not the entire world.

 

[Agent23]

Who has the motive: USA and Biden specifically.
Who has the means: USA.
Who has the method: USA.

Who had a near insane obsession with blocking the NS2 pipeline, ever since its inception, with all sorts of sanctions and intimidation used against the companies and governments involved: USA.

Who has pulled such shit in the past: USA.

I am eagerly awaiting the totally impossible to trace "accident" that will come as retaliation.

 

[Robovski]

Sweden has found a new leak in a major undersea pipeline carrying Russian natural gas to the EU - making it the fourth discovered this week.

Nord Stream: Sweden finds new leak in Russian gas pipeline

The EU says the leaks are caused by sabotage and promises the "strongest possible response".

www.bbc.com

 

[Typhonis]

As a joke I said, elsewhere, Russia caused this by slashing the Nordstream pipeline maintenance budget to the bone... I'm wondering if that is true.

 

[LordsFire]

As a joke I said, elsewhere, Russia caused this by slashing the Nordstream pipeline maintenance budget to the bone... I'm wondering if that is true.

That's still my leading theory. Not very high probability, but simple Russian incompetence has been the root explanation behind almost everything in this war, including the war itself, so it's certainly possible here.

 

[gral]

As a joke I said, elsewhere, Russia caused this by slashing the Nordstream pipeline maintenance budget to the bone... I'm wondering if that is true.

I've seen earlier today a very convincing argument for lack of maintenance or inadequate maintenance being the cause - according to that scenario, since they kept the pipeline filled with gas, they would have problems with methane hydrate formation inside the line, and these easily get big enough to plug the line. The usual procedure for melting those is to slowly depressurize the line from both ends to melt the plugs(there would be more than one). You can do the same thing by depressurizing from only one end, but that is extremely tricky, with the usual result when things go wrong is the plug melts enough to come loose but now you have slugs of solid methane weighing tens to hundreds of pounds travelling at high speed inside the line towards the depressurizing end, and when these hit a bend on the line, they tend to rupture it.

 

[PsihoKekec]

I'm wondering if that is true.

Pipeline in operation and dormant pipeline blew up within few hours, in the same area. That is not technical mishap, it is a controlled demolition. And who benefits the most from it?

 

[LordsFire]

Pipeline in operation and dormant pipeline blew up within few hours, in the same area. That is not technical mishap, it is a controlled demolition. And who benefits the most from it?

The probability isn't high, but if they were running the same procedures at the same time on the lines, it's not completely ridiculous.

I honestly don't know what happened, and see no reason to commit myself to one interpretation or another until more information comes to light.

 

[Buba]

Why is that video NSFW? I see an "age restriction" icon?

 

[Agent23]

That's still my leading theory. Not very high probability, but simple Russian incompetence has been the root explanation behind almost everything in this war, including the war itself, so it's certainly possible here.

Yeah, sure, 2 pipelines, one brand new and still not put into operation and the other one at most 10 years into its productive life suddenly both suffer catastrophic failure...

Can I send a Nigerian friend your way, or perhaps you want to buy a bridge or some farmland from my buddy Ivan Ivanov.

Why is that video NSFW? I see an "age restriction" icon?

Censorship, probably.

 

[Agent23]

Cui Bono?


Partition of Poland 4.0 soon?

 

[PsihoKekec]

Why is that video NSFW? I see an "age restriction" icon?

World fuck is used often. To underscore the awesomeness of the most powerful country in the world.

 

[ShieldWife]

It boggles my mind that there are so many people in denial that the USA is almost certainly the perpetrator here. It’s as though the mainstream media has so addled people’s brains that they can look at the naked emperor and think that they see clothes.

Biden said that we would do it. Several other top US government people said or hinted at the same thing. The establishment has a huge motive to do this, it keeps Germany from being tempted (by high fuel prices) into relaxing sanctions of Russia. The USA has has a massive naval presence in the Baltic Sea and the means to complete this attack.

It’s as though a husband says that he will kill his wife if she leaves him. All of their mutual friends say that he will kill her. The guy has a long criminal record of numerous violent crimes. The wife leaves him and turns up murdered. Beaten to death with a rare kind of wrench that only an auto mechanic would own and the ex husband is an auto mechanic. Wouldn’t this guy be the #1 suspect? If you said you thought the husband did it and somebody called you an insane conspiracy theorist, wouldn’t you doubt that person’s sanity or honestly?

At some point, you have to be willing to admit that your own country can be the villains, and in the last few decades the USA usually is.

 

[Batrix2070]

Partition of Poland 4.0 soon?

Impossible, for this you need a Germany that is not kicked in the ass, and a militarily competent Russia.
So no fourth partition will not happen, instead there will be a double and unexpected collapse of the powers that have been dictating the order among themselves for more than three hundred years.
Another thing is that there can be no fourth partition when it has already taken place and barely six years later has become non-existent.

 

[Agent23]

Impossible, for this you need a Germany that is not kicked in the ass, and a militarily competent Russia.
So no fourth partition will not happen, instead there will be a double and unexpected collapse of the powers that have been dictating the order among themselves for more than three hundred years.
Another thing is that there can be no fourth partition when it has already taken place and barely six years later has become non-existent.

Yeah, that remark was sarcasm, however...
You will be surprised how much anger, cold, starvation and humiliation help the mind to focus.Also, if Poland did it it can be spin as an act of war and thus the mutual defense article of NATO is out.

 

[Batrix2070]

.Also, if Poland did it it can be spin as an act of war and thus the mutual defense article of NATO is out

To quote a Polish meme, famine, cold and nuclear war are a small price to pay for Russia's destruction.
You could say this is a joke, the problem is that this is the current state of mind of many Poles, yes there is a vociferous group opposing it but on Twitter and strangely supported by Russian bots.
So no, we in fact right now are just looking very focused on one goal, to break Russia.

And the price? The price is of little importance. Disasters do happen.

 

[Agent23]

To quote a Polish meme, famine, cold and nuclear war are a small price to pay for Russia's destruction.
You could say this is a joke, the problem is that this is the current state of mind of many Poles, yes there is a vociferous group opposing it but on Twitter and strangely supported by Russian bots.
So no, we in fact right now are just looking very focused on one goal, to break Russia.

And the price? The price is of little importance. Disasters do happen.

I am sorry your unhealthy obsession with Russia is dragging you in a dangerous directions, truly it will be sad if Warsaw and Krakow turn into glowing, radioactive craters.
And while the West is run by insane, corrupt retards they are too cowardly and greedy to risk nuclear war for you IMHO.

 

[Typhonis]

My thinking, and I'm probably wrong, is that the US didn't do it. Why? It's too fucking obvious, that's why.

We had a naval group in the area doing maneuvers that could plant the bombs. If bombs were used. We had the Senile in Chief threaten to do it. If we actually wanted to do it why go through all the muss and fuss. Have the fucking finger pointed our way when we could have slid a few SEAL teams in using a Seawolf class and plant the bombs secretly with no one the wiser?