MGTOW is an interesting one. It's built on a lot of...bitterness. Bitter men who would like to be in a loving, supportive relationship with a woman but for whatever reason (except themselves) they see it as not worth it or downright impossible. So they give up, and they have to broadcast their decision and try to convince other men that it's the right decision (and berate women) in order to validate themselves. In my experience there's quite a bit of misogyny and antipathy towards women among men who identify as MGTOW. A lot of projecting bad experiences with women onto all women. Granted, that's just from interacting with some MGTOWs online, I've never met a man who identifies as MGTOW in person.
One major motivation for MGTOW appears to be that women today are awful and selfish and dishonest and don't actually care about their partners and blah blah blah. The problem is all with the women, never with the MGTOW. If I were a betting man I would put money on supportive and caring women existing, MGTOWs are just not looking in the right place to find them and don't meet the standards such women would expect. They don't want to go to the places where those sorts of values are promoted, ie church.
The other motivation I've seen is being disillusioned with the modern legal system surrounding marriage and child custody, and deciding it's too much of a cost or risk to be worth it. This one is a bit more understandable, and I do think men can be called to a life of chaste single-ness and still live fulfilling lives. But. If you're still engaging in casual, transactional sex and hookups, just avoiding anything long term and exclusive with a woman? There's nothing commendable about that.
You don't want to spend too much time on social media or watching the news, as it will warp your reality. You constantly hear about MGTOW and how there are no good women nowadays. Perhaps there is an element of truth to it, but you cannot generalize. Most women aren't cunts. Most women are normal. I think the problem is that men aren't looking in the right places. Obviously it is unwise to ask women at work out anymore. Online dating apps like Tinder or whatever people use nowadays are a different can of worms. If you're hitting girls up at bars or night clubs, then don't be surprised when she abandons you. If you want a reliable woman you want to marry, then look for her at Church. Probably not the answer a lot of people want to hear, though.
Bingo. And men don't want to hear it probably because they're not the kind of men that a woman from church would be interested in. They don't want to hear there's something they need to improve or change about themselves in order to be attractive to good women. They would rather just pretend they don't exist and go on complaining there are no good women.
Yeah, online communication and social changes have definitely destroyed the normal dating scene.
What about people who are right of center/libertarian but not particularly religious, btw?
Then I would say you have more important things in your life that you need to sort out. On a societal I would say a decline in men and women having healthy long term relationships and marriage is a consequence of a lack of religious belief.
