Firing squad.
By the fathers and family members of those of the victims
#MeToo and Cancel Culture: Friday is bring your own torches and pitchforks day!
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By the fathers and family members of those of the victims
Doomsought
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Unfortunately, teenagers are at the specific stage of life where a human beings capacity for long term risk management is still developing. They are literally only capable of performing short term risk assessment subconsciously.
Jaenera Targaryen
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On one hand, good point. On the other hand, firing squad has a certain dignity to it, which the condemned do not deserve.
There is only dignity if you let face the squad.
And you have the tell tale one guy doesn't shoot.
I was thinking more grab a couple M2s and give them 100 rounds
Jaenera Targaryen
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*scratches head*
Spending way too much money on a piece of shit, IMHO. A noose is cheaper, even more so if we hang them from trees instead of proper gallows, just like in the old days.
The thing is, teens tend to be stupid. They also hit a certain age and they tend to get horny (I'm hoping that most people remember that part of their youth), and they become really desperate to be adults and start doing other adult things like trying out smoking and/or drinking. The difference from when I was a kid was that internet was no where near as pervasive as it is today, and we didn't have cell phones or digital cameras, and if we had any kind of a computer, it was a family computer. If you were a horny teen wanting to take nudes of yourself to share with someone you wanted to hook up with, unless you could develop film yourself in secret somehow, you had to take it in to be developed by someone else, and that probably kept most people from trying something like that. Technology has basically helped remove a filter for stupid behavior.
There are many reasons why Americans are considered either prudes at best, moronic puritans at worst despite the paradoxically popular sex industries in the States. It's not just because of your laws (which need massive revision, as many of them are outdated even by 18th century standards) but aspects of American culture, too.
I've seen Americans freak out about "Pedophiles! Pedophiles everywhere!" and try to form e-lynch mobs when there's just a few years' difference between a couple, e.g. 16 and 19.
Newsflash: age-gap relationships like that are pretty common and normal in the world! They do not equate to the likes of a 13 or 14 year old "dating" a dude that's 28 or 29! Hell, at 17 I was chatting up a 22 year old Aussie bird quite happily, and my best-friend at the time found her husband when she was 17 and he, 21! They've been happily married for over a decade and a half now, with kids!
One poor bastard on Reddit was asking for advice on how to break up with his manipulative, gaslighting girlfriend, who was, IIRC, 17 and he was 19. He was attacked consistently for being a "predator". Another guy? He was asking for advice on how to divorce his wife because of her cheating -- despite ages not being mentioned (aside from "she's a few years younger than me", which could mean fucking anything), he was attacked for being a "predator".
By Americans' logic, most couples in countries that don't start with A, M, and E and end with I, C, and A were formed from child abuse cases -- including many of my friends, who are now happily married with the whole 2.4 children schtick! smh
Piss in public? Onto the sex offender registry you go! In the UK? Yeah, a copper gives you a sponge and bucket and tells you to clean your mess up, after giving you a ticket. Life not ruined, just a feeling of utter embarrassment the next day.
Hell, even Hollywood (the irony here, given what's come out about that shit-pit recently) lampooned this in an episode of CSI: Las Vegas, where Willows (who used to be a stripper/prostitute and is now a judgy feminist) kept attacking and hounding this guy for being guilty because he was on the sex offenders' registry.
You know what his "crime" was? He pissed in public, in an alley, and got caught, and a school happened to be like nine blocks away. But obviously according to American law and batshit lawyers that equates to raping a woman or flashing a preschooler, right? /s Even her friends and colleagues called her out on it, but she was hell-bent on proving the (innocent) guy guilty because of it.
And let's not get into the creepy infantilization aspect to American culture, like treating their teenagers like they're still literal kids (I'm not kidding about this -- I've seen this multiple times where parents consider their 16 or even 20 year old kids on the level as a 10 or 11 year old, including things like "taking things away as punishment" or "bed by 18:00", or even "they're too young to date! wail!" ... at 21), even when they're in their early twenties.
"They're still a baby! They didn't know stabbing someone twenty times in the heart would kill them! At 15!" smh
I know a lot of people are going to say "not all Americans are like that" -- some may even say it's just the religious or ultra-conservative lot like that giving Americans on the whole a bad rep -- but the fact it's endemic enough for it to still be common in American society still says something.
America, basically, needs to grow up.
I've seen Americans freak out about "Pedophiles! Pedophiles everywhere!" and try to form e-lynch mobs when there's just a few years' difference between a couple, e.g. 16 and 19.
Newsflash: age-gap relationships like that are pretty common and normal in the world! They do not equate to the likes of a 13 or 14 year old "dating" a dude that's 28 or 29! Hell, at 17 I was chatting up a 22 year old Aussie bird quite happily, and my best-friend at the time found her husband when she was 17 and he, 21! They've been happily married for over a decade and a half now, with kids!
One poor bastard on Reddit was asking for advice on how to break up with his manipulative, gaslighting girlfriend, who was, IIRC, 17 and he was 19. He was attacked consistently for being a "predator". Another guy? He was asking for advice on how to divorce his wife because of her cheating -- despite ages not being mentioned (aside from "she's a few years younger than me", which could mean fucking anything), he was attacked for being a "predator".
By Americans' logic, most couples in countries that don't start with A, M, and E and end with I, C, and A were formed from child abuse cases -- including many of my friends, who are now happily married with the whole 2.4 children schtick! smh
Piss in public? Onto the sex offender registry you go! In the UK? Yeah, a copper gives you a sponge and bucket and tells you to clean your mess up, after giving you a ticket. Life not ruined, just a feeling of utter embarrassment the next day.
Hell, even Hollywood (the irony here, given what's come out about that shit-pit recently) lampooned this in an episode of CSI: Las Vegas, where Willows (who used to be a stripper/prostitute and is now a judgy feminist) kept attacking and hounding this guy for being guilty because he was on the sex offenders' registry.
You know what his "crime" was? He pissed in public, in an alley, and got caught, and a school happened to be like nine blocks away. But obviously according to American law and batshit lawyers that equates to raping a woman or flashing a preschooler, right? /s Even her friends and colleagues called her out on it, but she was hell-bent on proving the (innocent) guy guilty because of it.
And let's not get into the creepy infantilization aspect to American culture, like treating their teenagers like they're still literal kids (I'm not kidding about this -- I've seen this multiple times where parents consider their 16 or even 20 year old kids on the level as a 10 or 11 year old, including things like "taking things away as punishment" or "bed by 18:00", or even "they're too young to date! wail!" ... at 21), even when they're in their early twenties.
"They're still a baby! They didn't know stabbing someone twenty times in the heart would kill them! At 15!" smh
I know a lot of people are going to say "not all Americans are like that" -- some may even say it's just the religious or ultra-conservative lot like that giving Americans on the whole a bad rep -- but the fact it's endemic enough for it to still be common in American society still says something.
America, basically, needs to grow up.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Stop taking the sensationalized extremes and judging our whole society based on it. Yes, such shit happens, but it's rare, and some places are working on reforming some of the stupid 'he's 18 she's 17, so it's rape' laws as well. Some states already have.
Do you want people thinking that your entire nation supports and approves of grooming gangs?
The UK has its problems, yeah -- especially with the police and authorities actively covering up this shit in fear of being called racist. It's being called out constantly now.
But the difference between this and American society/culture? I've not seen the average Brit say they support this shit. Not once. It's not part of our media and culture where such things are the fucking norm.
I've seen Americans, on many platforms, in many discussions, have the same wavelength of attitudes, thoughts, and feelings on these matters. When you see that constantly, it's not "sensationalized extremes" but a common attitude of American society, culture, and the legal system.
Americans are the weirdo outliers when it comes to sex and relationships, not the rest of the world.
Consider this scenario: you just found out your 16 year old daughter is dating a 19 year old guy.
Over here in the UK? You'd want to know if he's a good person, and if he is, 99% of the time you'd be fine with it. We don't treat our teens and younguns like they're fucking babies.
In the States? Yeah, I don't even have to type what the typical American reaction would be because we're all thinking it.
So, yeah: I stand by what I said. American society needs to grow the fuck up, and revise its laws so that pissing in public won't have you labeled the same as a fucking kiddie-fucker or rapist.
JasonSanjo
Your Overlord and Jester
Ah, yes. The Great American Fairytale, in which children stop growing at age six and then, when the clock strikes midnight on the night before their eighteenth birthday, they undergo a magical transformation, gaining twelve years' worth of physical, mental and emotional growth in the span of a split-second.
I've heard it reiterated many times, in American pop culture, news media and from individuals online.
It's one of the weirder aspects of U.S. culture and law to us outside observers, to be sure. I've never understood it, myself. Perhaps Americans simply don't interact with their offspring between the ages of six and eighteen?
It's goddamn hilarious because I've seen Americans (to paraphrase) basically go "they're under 18! Pedophile! Pedophile!" and then "Oh, wait, they turned 18 a week ago? Sweet, are they on Tinder, Porn Hub/Only Fans, or at the strip-club yet?"
I just... what?
It's goddamn hilarious because I've seen Americans (to paraphrase) basically go "they're under 18! Pedophile! Pedophile!" and then "Oh, wait, they turned 18 a week ago? Sweet, are they on Tinder, Porn Hub/Only Fans, or at the strip-club yet?"
I just... what?
To be fair I come from a place that's on the other extreme. It was and remains uber common for five to ten year age gaps to be deemed healthy. It's fucking vile..
No 14 year old should be shacking up with a 24 year old but it happens across the entirety of South America and its wild.
So I do get their prudishness to an extent. There's a seven year age gap between me and the missus. Mind ye we met when she was 22 but still.
And I'll be honest, I think we clicked so well because she had a very different upbringing than most younger millennials did. Otherwise I probably would never have bothered.
Once you get to a certain age listening to someone under 25 is like talking to someone from Mars. 🤣
There are multiple levels in why it's wrong, but of course gringos don't do anything that isn't extreme. Thats why they basically became Rome 2.0 so I'm not surprised they wig out of this stuff and take it to heightened proportions.
Government can stream it? Recoop the losses in superchats and ads?
"The hanging of this pedophile is brought to you BY YOUR BOY! RAID SHADOW LENGENDS!"
It's goddamn hilarious because I've seen Americans (to paraphrase) basically go "they're under 18! Pedophile! Pedophile!" and then "Oh, wait, they turned 18 a week ago? Sweet, are they on Tinder, Porn Hub/Only Fans, or at the strip-club yet?"
I just... what?
There is also the fact that child marriage is legal in 42 states and 8 states establish no minimum age for child marriage at all, meaning pedophilia becomes perfectly legal as long as you have "consent" from the parents.
actually a lot of parents don't get to spend a lot of time with their kids because housing is so fucking expensive so you need duel incomes to make it happen, and they end up having fewer kids because of the expense and end up hyperfocusing on the one they do have which of course makes the kids hyper nerotic.
And then not let the kids outside because the media has people convinced the entire country is a vicious gangland which makes a lot of problems worse and honestly theres just a whole lot of unhealthiness in american society. Like seriously fucking a lot. Its one of the reasons why I think were in for a really bad time.
Jaenera Targaryen
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Wait, seriously?
Yes, seriously. Almost every single state allows underage marriage with parental "consent"; some require a judge to sign off on it as well, but this is routinely granted as long as the parents approve, even in cases of outright rape. It's pretty much the *only* major exception to strict liability statutory rape laws.
Worse, most states *don't* grant legal empancipation to a child in an underage marriage, they just transfer guardianship to the adult "spouse" who then holds total authority over them.
Typhonis
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Go with the Romam idea. Until you hit 25, you need a lawyer to be with you when you make life-altering decisions.
In my home state of GA, 16 is the legal age of marriage with parent permission and iirc you have to be pregnant. 17 is allowed with parent permission anyway.
Most states have some variation of the Romeo and Juliet law allowing a four year doffrence if certain terms are met.
Most states have some variation of the Romeo and Juliet law allowing a four year doffrence if certain terms are met.
Bear Ribs
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It's worth noting that supermajority of states also have the age of consent at 16 or 17.
Eighteen is the age of consent in California, which tends to use its media domination to force its views on the rest of the country, and the age it's legal to make porn so a lot of porn tends to emphasize that she's 18. Apparently a lot of people, for some stupid reason, use porn as their reference material for how sex, dating, and laws work.
Eighteen is the age of consent in California, which tends to use its media domination to force its views on the rest of the country, and the age it's legal to make porn so a lot of porn tends to emphasize that she's 18. Apparently a lot of people, for some stupid reason, use porn as their reference material for how sex, dating, and laws work.
DarthOne
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I am aware the stupidity of the average teenager world wide. I certainly did my own bit of that. But I had enough self respect to not post nude pictures of myself. Honestly, I don’t even think the idea of doing such a think even ever occurred to me.The thing is, teens tend to be stupid. They also hit a certain age and they tend to get horny (I'm hoping that most people remember that part of their youth), and they become really desperate to be adults and start doing other adult things like trying out smoking and/or drinking. The difference from when I was a kid was that internet was no where near as pervasive as it is today, and we didn't have cell phones or digital cameras, and if we had any kind of a computer, it was a family computer. If you were a horny teen wanting to take nudes of yourself to share with someone you wanted to hook up with, unless you could develop film yourself in secret somehow, you had to take it in to be developed by someone else, and that probably kept most people from trying something like that. Technology has basically helped remove a filter for stupid behavior.
You might be onto something here.