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I just saw The Eternals on Disney Plus and it was.... okay? When I first heard about the film and that Chloe Zhao was going to be the Director, I figured the movie was going to either be the most amazing thing ever or super blah. From what I heard, it was the latter so it was the first MCU movie I didn't actually bother seeing in theaters.
Now seeing it on Disney Plus, I guess I gotta say is that it's just okay. It felt like it could of been a fantasy/historical epic, almost like a mythological throwback to films like Clash of the Titans or Jason and the Argonauts or something only taking place partly in the modern day.
I really liked the ambition, the vision and the epic scale behind the film. I really wanted to be sold on it. But I never was. Despite the epic scale of the film and its themes and scope and storyline which touches a dozen different immortals over thousands of years of Human history I never had any sort of "Wow" moment. There was never any "goosebumps" or "chills" or "hair standing on the back of your neck" moment where you're watching the film and like.... 'Wow. This is going to stay with me.' There's films that can have that effect on me. Dark City or Blade Runner or the The Bridge Over the River Kwai that just leave a real impact on you and leave you thinking about the film a long time afterwards.
But the film failed to hit me or impact me and thus it really suffered and descended into just mediocrity.
And that's too bad because there was a lot of promise in the film. I really think you could make a really interesting film about a group of immortal extraterrestrial warriors who were placed on Earth to shepherd Humanity, guide it, and protect it from external threats while also being forbidden from interfering with Human internecine conflict up to and including when they genocide each other. It touched on things like the best way to assist Humans technologically or evolutionary, if they're worth the protection, and just living as an immortal being for hundreds of years with (or without) purpose and seeing how some people deal with living such long lives. Real fascinating topics that could've been explored. Interpersonal themes and philosophical and moral questions etc.
But no, the main story involved evolving Deviants and an ancient plot that could result in the destruction of all life on Earth, and a schism that would result in the Eternals having a CGI Superfight around an exploding volcano in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
*groans*
I would've loved to of seen the Eternals schism be based on ideological and having five millenia of experiences with Humanity shading their decisions instead of some stale world extinction plot... but alas.
The diversity in the film didn't bother me at all. It didn't feel particularly woke with its messaging either. It's a diverse movie with a diverse cast but I didn't feel that the diversity was a drawback on the film. I liked most of the characters and honestly a lot of the slower, character interacting moments or flashbacks to their historical travels and encounters were far more interesting than the various action scenes which had them fighting Deviants or whatever. Those scenes were actually kinda less interesting.
For a film that tried to buck the Marvel formula, I can't help but feel the studio dragged down the film quality by inserting its boring ass CGI action scenes directed by some Special Effects Second Unit Director group. Maybe the film would've been more interesting if Chloe Zhao did more of her own thing and Marvel Studios doing less?
Now seeing it on Disney Plus, I guess I gotta say is that it's just okay. It felt like it could of been a fantasy/historical epic, almost like a mythological throwback to films like Clash of the Titans or Jason and the Argonauts or something only taking place partly in the modern day.
I really liked the ambition, the vision and the epic scale behind the film. I really wanted to be sold on it. But I never was. Despite the epic scale of the film and its themes and scope and storyline which touches a dozen different immortals over thousands of years of Human history I never had any sort of "Wow" moment. There was never any "goosebumps" or "chills" or "hair standing on the back of your neck" moment where you're watching the film and like.... 'Wow. This is going to stay with me.' There's films that can have that effect on me. Dark City or Blade Runner or the The Bridge Over the River Kwai that just leave a real impact on you and leave you thinking about the film a long time afterwards.
But the film failed to hit me or impact me and thus it really suffered and descended into just mediocrity.
And that's too bad because there was a lot of promise in the film. I really think you could make a really interesting film about a group of immortal extraterrestrial warriors who were placed on Earth to shepherd Humanity, guide it, and protect it from external threats while also being forbidden from interfering with Human internecine conflict up to and including when they genocide each other. It touched on things like the best way to assist Humans technologically or evolutionary, if they're worth the protection, and just living as an immortal being for hundreds of years with (or without) purpose and seeing how some people deal with living such long lives. Real fascinating topics that could've been explored. Interpersonal themes and philosophical and moral questions etc.
But no, the main story involved evolving Deviants and an ancient plot that could result in the destruction of all life on Earth, and a schism that would result in the Eternals having a CGI Superfight around an exploding volcano in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
*groans*
I would've loved to of seen the Eternals schism be based on ideological and having five millenia of experiences with Humanity shading their decisions instead of some stale world extinction plot... but alas.
The diversity in the film didn't bother me at all. It didn't feel particularly woke with its messaging either. It's a diverse movie with a diverse cast but I didn't feel that the diversity was a drawback on the film. I liked most of the characters and honestly a lot of the slower, character interacting moments or flashbacks to their historical travels and encounters were far more interesting than the various action scenes which had them fighting Deviants or whatever. Those scenes were actually kinda less interesting.
For a film that tried to buck the Marvel formula, I can't help but feel the studio dragged down the film quality by inserting its boring ass CGI action scenes directed by some Special Effects Second Unit Director group. Maybe the film would've been more interesting if Chloe Zhao did more of her own thing and Marvel Studios doing less?
Looks like Secret Invasion and What If Season Two have been removed from release in 2022 as Disney Plus television series.
Still a full 2022 as the MCU is concerned.
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Still a full 2022 as the MCU is concerned.
- Moon Knight (March 30, 2022)
- Doctor Strange In the Multiverse of Madness (May 6, 2022)
- Thor: Love and Thunder (July 8, 2022)
- Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (November 11, 2022)
- She-Hulk (Release date not announced)
- Ms. Marvel (Release date not announcced)
- I Am Groot (Release date not announced)
MCU Officially Scraps Two Highly-Anticipated Series In 2022 - Inside the Magic
Marvel Studios has officially scrapped two highly-anticipated MCU series in 2022. See details about Marvel's updated release slate inside.
Channing Tatum was apparently ready to work on a Gambit film that had been in development for years when Disney bought them out in 2019 and killed the production right before it began. As a result Channimg Tatum, who apparently really wanted to portray Gambit, can't watch Marvel movies anymore. It bothers him too much.
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Why ‘traumatized’ Channing Tatum can’t watch Marvel superhero movies anymore
The “21 Jump Street” actor was supposed to play the X-Men mutant Gambit in the character’s own solo movie. However, the film never came to fruition.
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Apparently the new Spiderverse movie or whatever will be casting Dakota Johnson as Madame Web in a move decried as being both ageist and erasing of disability since Madame Web is blind.
I'm of two minds about this. On one hand it means Madame Web is far more bangable now.
On the other hand... Now that she is no longer blind I am likely in turn am far less bangable. 😑
I'm of two minds about this. On one hand it means Madame Web is far more bangable now.
On the other hand... Now that she is no longer blind I am likely in turn am far less bangable. 😑
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Looks like the 160 episodes of Marvel Netflix content will actually be leaving the platform of Netflix on March 1st, 2022.
Marvel's 'The Defenders' Shows Leaving Netflix on March 1st
Still unknown as to where it'll end up but probably some combination of Hulu and DisneyPlus since the latter doesn't like violent things on its service in the United States and as a bonus you can get people to pay for two services instead of just one.
Marvel's 'The Defenders' Shows Leaving Netflix on March 1st
Still unknown as to where it'll end up but probably some combination of Hulu and DisneyPlus since the latter doesn't like violent things on its service in the United States and as a bonus you can get people to pay for two services instead of just one.
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness trailer dropped:
It will debut ONLY in theaters on May 6th.
It will debut ONLY in theaters on May 6th.
Looks like the Rights are reverting to Disney, with the likely outcome that the shows will end up on Hulu in the United States and Disney+ internationally.
Netflix Marvel Series Head Back To Disney - Dark Horizons
Earlier today Netflix users in certain countries started noticing a notification on the service – it seems the six Marvel series created for the streamer are set to leave that service on March 1st. In the wake of that, sources confirm to Deadline that Netflix’s license for those shows is ending...
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Anyone been watching that Moon Knight series?
I heard it was released a few weeks ago, read the positive reviews, then completely forgot about it like an hour later so I didn't see any of it until this last weekend when a youngling asked me to watch it with them. And having watched it, it's.... pretty good.
Only saw the first three episodes (as only three episodes have been released) but it's fun and entertaining and I like all of the characters so far. There's some plot points that bother me but it's not a big issue yet. I like the fresh and original concepts this series is bringing to the MCU with Moon Knight's clear mental issues and the dynamics and themes interweaving stuff like horror and mythology and adventure and spy stuff altogether in a superhero TV series. Very neat and different.
But like I said before, plot issues... I feel like I'm seeing one of them come in already due to predictability.
I heard it was released a few weeks ago, read the positive reviews, then completely forgot about it like an hour later so I didn't see any of it until this last weekend when a youngling asked me to watch it with them. And having watched it, it's.... pretty good.
Only saw the first three episodes (as only three episodes have been released) but it's fun and entertaining and I like all of the characters so far. There's some plot points that bother me but it's not a big issue yet. I like the fresh and original concepts this series is bringing to the MCU with Moon Knight's clear mental issues and the dynamics and themes interweaving stuff like horror and mythology and adventure and spy stuff altogether in a superhero TV series. Very neat and different.
But like I said before, plot issues... I feel like I'm seeing one of them come in already due to predictability.
Never trust Hathor. Even... no I mean Especially if she wants to bang you. If there's one thing Stargate taught me.
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my issue with moon knight is that none of the characters are likable. Marc is a cringy edge lord dummy, Steven is a judgmental weakling, and the gods for being all knowing are absolutely blind. The MCU didn't used to be so reliant on plot induced stupidity. (But it's gotten bad since endgame) honestly, I think the films are making the same mistakes the comics are, insane power creep, bizarre plots, and unlikable characters. It's becoming mixed. For every Shang-chi we get an eternals, for every Hawkeye, we get a moon knight
That is how Moon Knight has always been
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I can see why it never took off then. He's a crappy rip off of batman.
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Which is why they should have leaned into the drug-addicted nutbag that fights crime while trying to figure out who owes him money and tricking Spiderman into providing him with ketamine. Yes, it's a goofy internet meme and runs the risk of ripping off Deadpool rather than Batman, but at least it would have made Moon Knight memorable.
It was all dependent on which personalty was in charge with how he acted.
Mr white was the calm collected silent one.
Moon Knight was the batshot insane Deadpool batman.
Just finished Moon Knight and... there was one episode I thought was really weak, I think it was Episode III where it really expanded on the lore. But overall, including with the last two episodes, I thought it was really good. Overall I'd actually say the series was good in quality. This might just be the immediacy of it all but it might've been the best Disney Marvel Series so far.
The important things here is it did some different, and not just for the sake of subversion or just being different (BREAKING NEW GROUND) but actually interesting as well. I really liked the multiple personality thing going on and how it wiped between them and eventually we had Moon Knight's identities really developing on their own and in relationship of each other. The female lead, Layla, was also interesting and not overbearing or somehow "replacing" Moon Knight. She wasn't some master waif fu practitioner but usually requires grit and intelligence to rationally and believably outsmart her enemies, the scene in the beginning of Episode Four in the desert being a nice display of resourcefulness.
Most interesting was that the show had big stakes and was able to show it well. Other Marvel TV series failed in this... miserably. Loki, Falcon & Winter Soldier, and Wandavision all had these global (in Loki's case Multiversal) storylines and threats that just failed to be properly represented on the small screen due to unimaginative writing and budget limits and the like I feel. Moon Knight managed to tell its big story within the limits of a television series pretty well though. And it actually showed a scale of threat without making it look cheap or low budget. You got actual Egyptian Gods throwing it down, and the Heroes eventually taking on a legitimate nemesis immediately threatening a city.
I liked the genre bouncing between psychological and paranormal horror, action/adventure and still having the superhero show thrown in. The settings in the asylum, in Egypt real and mythical, were all fun too.
It also injected far more mythology then like... three Thor movies so that was a plus.
With that said, it was good, not GREAT. On its own it was an original series that felt pretty fresh. But for those people who think of it as a component of the MCU or whatever, I don't think it particularly adds much to that whole thing. It stands alone and stands alone well.
The important things here is it did some different, and not just for the sake of subversion or just being different (BREAKING NEW GROUND) but actually interesting as well. I really liked the multiple personality thing going on and how it wiped between them and eventually we had Moon Knight's identities really developing on their own and in relationship of each other. The female lead, Layla, was also interesting and not overbearing or somehow "replacing" Moon Knight. She wasn't some master waif fu practitioner but usually requires grit and intelligence to rationally and believably outsmart her enemies, the scene in the beginning of Episode Four in the desert being a nice display of resourcefulness.
Most interesting was that the show had big stakes and was able to show it well. Other Marvel TV series failed in this... miserably. Loki, Falcon & Winter Soldier, and Wandavision all had these global (in Loki's case Multiversal) storylines and threats that just failed to be properly represented on the small screen due to unimaginative writing and budget limits and the like I feel. Moon Knight managed to tell its big story within the limits of a television series pretty well though. And it actually showed a scale of threat without making it look cheap or low budget. You got actual Egyptian Gods throwing it down, and the Heroes eventually taking on a legitimate nemesis immediately threatening a city.
I liked the genre bouncing between psychological and paranormal horror, action/adventure and still having the superhero show thrown in. The settings in the asylum, in Egypt real and mythical, were all fun too.
It also injected far more mythology then like... three Thor movies so that was a plus.
With that said, it was good, not GREAT. On its own it was an original series that felt pretty fresh. But for those people who think of it as a component of the MCU or whatever, I don't think it particularly adds much to that whole thing. It stands alone and stands alone well.
She Hulk trailer arrived.
Another thing I barely had any idea of. The new TV series will be on Disney Plus in August supposedly.
Another thing I barely had any idea of. The new TV series will be on Disney Plus in August supposedly.
Ms. Marvel is decent enough. Kids liked it and I didn't even know it was released. When I started watching it, the first ten or fifteen minutes was so bad that I contemplated not even watching it anymore. It was like really bad stereotypical Teen Disney drama or something (not that I'm familiar with such shows anyhow) but it improved a fair bit beyond the cringe introduction. The characters are fun and interesting and viewing these first two episodes as a Teen Coming of Age style comedy works far better then as anything else. It certainly wouldn't be for everyone since its geared towards a different audience generally. Wholesomely diverse Teen PRODUCT to CONSUME.