Leftist Child Grooming

[DarthOne]

Yes, yes, everyone knows you're lining up to take the Left's place as the fun police.

The fact that wanting society to have more self control and not being a sexualized mess is seen as wanting to be 'the fun police', just convinces me of the necessity of doing so. Discipline and self control is difficult- giving into ones passions, despite the fact that doing so can be harmful, is easy.

The digital era has brought many men easy access to anything they desire. At first this may seem good, but in reality these highly stimulating dopaminergic activity's have detrimental effects on the brain specifically with Dopamine. In this video, Jordan Peterson talks about the dangerous effects that instant gratification has on the mind.

 

[Captain X]

The fact that wanting society to have more self control and not being a sexualized mess is seen as wanting to be 'the fun police', just convinces me of the necessity of doing so. Discipline and self control is difficult- giving into ones passions, despite the fact that doing so can be harmful, is easy.

No, it's just you sticking your nose into other people's business. Grown adults, mind you. Something I'm not terribly happy with the Left for doing.

 

[DarthOne]

No, it's just you sticking your nose into other people's business. Grown adults, mind you. Something I'm not terribly happy with the Left for doing.

No man is an island. Especially with the internet allowing even the average person to have a hither-too massive reach. Which can be a bad thing if they're posting all sort of weird and messed up behavior that other people will see and be inclined to imitate.

We can't assume that once the Left is defeated all this will magically go away. Even putting aside holdouts, we've got generations of people basically raised in a system that taught them little to no critical thinking skills or self control. Especially if they are women. If we aren't careful, we will end up right back were we started all over again.

We must flush out the poison and put the body of western society as a whole on medicine for a while until we can be sure its at as right in the head as possible. Otherwise, it'll be like dumping a drug addict back on the streets after patching them up. They'll just relapse.

Never mind that we want a citizen class that actually pays some real attention to politics over the newest Marvel film or whatever.

 

[Captain X]

Trading one form of tyranny for another will not result in liberty.

 

[DarthOne]

Trading one form of tyranny for another will not result in liberty.

Freedom without responsibility and discipline is chaos.

 

[Abhorsen]

Freedom without responsibility and discipline is chaos.

You aren't advocating responsibility or chaos. What you are advocating is a police state that moniters you closely to see who you have sex with. You advocate tyranny and call it discipline, when discipline is found within one's self.

 

[Marduk]

No man is an island. Especially with the internet allowing even the average person to have a hither-too massive reach. Which can be a bad thing if they're posting all sort of weird and messed up behavior that other people will see and be inclined to imitate.

We can't assume that once the Left is defeated all this will magically go away. Even putting aside holdouts, we've got generations of people basically raised in a system that taught them little to no critical thinking skills or self control. Especially if they are women. If we aren't careful, we will end up right back were we started all over again.

We must flush out the poison and put the body of western society as a whole on medicine for a while until we can be sure its at as right in the head as possible. Otherwise, it'll be like dumping a drug addict back on the streets after patching them up. They'll just relapse.

Never mind that we want a citizen class that actually pays some real attention to politics over the newest Marvel film or whatever.

Considering your views on certain issues of foreign policy national interest, among other things, be very careful when talking about flushing poison from western society.

 

[DarthOne]

Considering your views on certain issues of foreign policy national interest, among other things, be very careful when talking about flushing poison from western society.

Your concern is noted. But trust me, I’m hardly a fan of Hitler, assuming that is what your worried about me being mistaken for. And I want to keep it that way.

 

[DarthOne]

You aren't advocating responsibility or chaos. What you are advocating is a police state that moniters you closely to see who you have sex with. You advocate tyranny and call it discipline, when discipline is found within one's self.

More encouragement than monitoring. Trust me, I hate the Big Brother monitoring of people via phones and so on. Which is part of why I’d like to go back to a pre-Smartphone era cellphone tech. Plus it makes it less difficult for people to get hooked on social media addiction and clout-chasing.

And the reason why I said what I did is that Western culture as it is in now isn’t in much shape or have inclination towards self-discipline.

Trust me, I would love if such methods weren’t necessary. But at the same time, I doubt things will magically get better and people will just ‘come to’ and realize how unhealthy our behavior is. Maybe I am wrong. I certainly hope so and want to believe that the incoming Christian Revival will help fix things.

Edit: also, I’m picturing something more like a guard rail metaphorically speaking when it comes to laws. Something to keep us backsliding into this nonsense.

 

[Marduk]

Your concern is noted. But trust me, I’m hardly a fan of Hitler, assuming that is what your worried about me being mistaken for. And I want to keep it that way.

No, that's not what i'm worried about. It is something you should be worried about - your cures that you want to force on western societies to fix them, some others, including on the "far right", would also consider at least laced with just another kind of poison, to be treated accordingly.

 

[DarthOne]

No, that's not what i'm worried about. It is something you should be worried about - your cures that you want to force on western societies to fix them, some others, including on the "far right", would also consider at least laced with just another kind of poison, to be treated accordingly.

I hardly expect everyone to agree with me. And would prefer those disagreements be settled peacefully.

 

[Marduk]

I hardly expect everyone to agree with me. And would prefer those disagreements be settled peacefully.

Your rhetoric about flushing out the poison didn't exactly give that impression.

Which is part of why I'd like to go back to a pre-Smartphone era cellphone tech.

The likely settlement is that your faction is laughed out of anything to do with economy, technology or military with extreme prejudice.
And i'm not sure i'd want people who have no clue about how the world of "real things" works to dictate how the culture should work either, we already have a taste of that with SJWs, we don't need that on our side.

 

[DarthOne]

Your rhetoric about flushing out the poison didn't exactly give that impression.

The likely settlement is that your faction is laughed out of anything to do with economy, technology or military with extreme prejudice.
And i'm not sure i'd want people who have no clue about how the world of "real things" works to dictate how the culture should work either, we already have a taste of that with SJWs, we don't need that on our side.

Yes, because clearly things are so much better now.

What exactly is on smartphones that people ‘need’ so badly that they can’t do on flip-phones or the like? Especially the military. I would have thought your lot in particular would be happy to have soldiers spending less of their time on unsecured phones and so on.

Better question, what is your guys end goals? What’s your vision for the future and how is it going to prevent backsliding into this nonsense we are in now?

 

[Marduk]

Yes, because clearly things are so much better now.

What exactly is on smartphones that people ‘need’ so badly that they can’t do on flip-phones or the like? Especially the military. I would have thought your lot in particular would be happy to have soldiers spending less of their time on unsecured phones and so on.

People write serious research articles on military relevance of cellphones since years, and you ask this?

If you want to ever hope to have military personnel that have any clue on what constitutes a secure phone, keeping them away from advanced technology is going to do the opposite.
And get back to me when you can install a minefield mapping app on a non-smartphone.
Also did you know that you can control a cheap drone with a smartphone?
Yeah, you can even buy one for yourself for few hundred bucks.
Some would call it a toy, but if the enemy doesn't master EW it may well be a recon device that WW2 soldiers would kill for.

Trying to solve shitty culture and media marketing practices with technology restrictions is ass backwards, and so will be the society who does it.

Better question, what is your guys end goals? What’s your vision for the future and how is it going to prevent backsliding into this nonsense we are in now?

The plan is to prosper, not to obsess about backsliding into anything, at the price of volunteering ourselves to be a backwards shithole beyond North Korea.

 

[colorles]

who the fuck is talking about insurgencies and military tactics when they talk about smartphones in normal day to day use? the bottom line is that smartphones with internet access are fueling the degeneracy of the modern man and women and children. oh and GPS? learn to read a fucking map. or get one of those separate GPS devices that stick on the windshield if you are a truck driver or something and it helps you make deadlines.

smartphones and GPS are all surveillance devices. yeah, a flip phone will track you as well but it won't spy on your every action and make a fucking algorithm about it.

smartphones are bad for children and teens. this is non debatable and the tech companies that peddle these devices and the apps on them...know this very well. but they are getting filthy rich off of it and the algorithms that target these children and teens.

 

[Zachowon]

who the fuck is talking about insurgencies and military tactics when they talk about smartphones in normal day to day use? the bottom line is that smartphones with internet access are fueling the degeneracy of the modern man and women and children. oh and GPS? learn to read a fucking map. or get one of those separate GPS devices that stick on the windshield if you are a truck driver or something and it helps you make deadlines.

smartphones and GPS are all surveillance devices. yeah, a flip phone will track you as well but it won't spy on your every action and make a fucking algorithm about it.

smartphones are bad for children and teens. this is non debatable and the tech companies that peddle these devices and the apps on them...know this very well. but they are getting filthy rich off of it and the algorithms that target these children and teens.

Ease of communication and understanding.

But smart phones have a purpose and a use.

Especially in the military field.

As for the GPS vs Maps part.
You can't actively read a road map while driving, more unsafe then being on the phone.
Where as for instance, I cam use GPS easily on my phone.
He'll, I am pretty sure there are Smartphones cheaper then those GPSs..

Tracking someone is easy this day and age for many reasons.
Phones are just one of many ways.

Regressing your people and basically becoming China is not how you go about running a country

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

I hardly expect everyone to agree with me. And would prefer those disagreements be settled peacefully.

The one tiptoeing around the idea of a violent revolution and how "no man is an island here has primarily been you. So the ball is in your court on that one.

Better question, what is your guys end goals? What’s your vision for the future and how is it going to prevent backsliding into this nonsense we are in now?

Honestly, I have no "endgoal" societal speaking. As far as my understanding the world will burn and then come judgement nothing I can do about that so I try to focus on the things I can control. Finding my own personal order within the chaos. Like not letting the SJWs ruin my love for superhero comics or things like Star wars.

 

[Typhonis]

I have a smart phone, myself. However I'm an oddity. It is only on when I need to call someone and then I just shut it off.

 

[Marduk]

who the fuck is talking about insurgencies and military tactics when they talk about smartphones in normal day to day use? the bottom line is that smartphones with internet access are fueling the degeneracy of the modern man and women and children. oh and GPS? learn to read a fucking map. or get one of those separate GPS devices that stick on the windshield if you are a truck driver or something and it helps you make deadlines.

It's like the gun discussion.
Those are tools. Tools serve those that wield them, whether you like what they are doing or not.
Weimar Republic also had plenty of degeneracy long before internet and smartphones.
So did the French Revolution.
So did late Roman Empire.

smartphones and GPS are all surveillance devices. yeah, a flip phone will track you as well but it won't spy on your every action and make a fucking algorithm about it.

Learn to find and install open source software that doesn't or make your own instead of whining. Even your most normie devices with most normie software have an actual user controlled EMCON feature hidden under the term airplane mode.

smartphones are bad for children and teens.

To a degree, yes, but that's a matter for parents of those specific children and teens.

this is non debatable and the tech companies that peddle these devices and the apps on them...know this very well. but they are getting filthy rich off of it and the algorithms that target these children and teens.

Not on them, on their parents. And sounding like a crazy luddite is not going to make it easier for you to convince them.

 

[Cherico]

Yes, yes, everyone knows you're lining up to take the Left's place as the fun police.

if were going to have fun police no matter what we do we should make sure their southernors at least then we would get some decent food and booze at the party.