Leftist Child Grooming

[Marduk]

I didn't even know transitioning surgery was that old.

Apparently it in fact is.

 

[StormEagle]

I didn't even know transitioning surgery was that old.

I believe, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, that humanity started experimenting with “transition” surgery back in good old Weimar Germany.

Honestly, a lot of the weird sexual shit we’re dealing with now came out of the Weimar period.

 

[DarthOne]

I believe, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, that humanity started experimenting with “transition” surgery back in good old Weimar Germany.

Honestly, a lot of the weird sexual shit we’re dealing with now came out of the Weimar period.

It did and yes, it does. All the more reason why we never should have sided with the Brits.

 

[S'task]

I believe, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, that humanity started experimenting with “transition” surgery back in good old Weimar Germany.

Honestly, a lot of the weird sexual shit we’re dealing with now came out of the Weimar period.

While some of it might have originated there, the core of the Sexual Revolution and Gender Theory did not. The core motivations for both of those came from the US, specifically founded in the Kinsey Reports published in the late 40s and early 50s and the later "research" of John Money who's so-called research was... well... kinda monstrous to the point where despite how influential he was back in his heyday, the modern LGBT movement is rapidly scrubbing him from the record because of how damning his work actually is to them.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

It’s a bit more then actual sexual abuse I’m against. The shit being shoved down the throats of kids at schools, the propaganda in media, the drag queens reading to kids and transgenders taking over people’s spaces so they can play pretend.

I get the frustration man, I really do.

 

[mrttao]

While some of it might have originated there, the core of the Sexual Revolution and Gender Theory did not. The core motivations for both of those came from the US, specifically founded in the Kinsey Reports published in the late 40s and early 50s and the later "research" of John Money who's so-called research was... well... kinda monstrous to the point where despite how influential he was back in his heyday, the modern LGBT movement is rapidly scrubbing him from the record because of how damning his work actually is to them.

Weimer had performed an experimental gender transition bottom surgery on a 3 year old baby ... at an entire college dedicated to the study of child sexual transitioning.

Its just that the nazies killed those people and burned their books. so USA had to "start over" with this degeneracy

 

[Cherico]

I believe, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, that humanity started experimenting with “transition” surgery back in good old Weimar Germany.

Honestly, a lot of the weird sexual shit we’re dealing with now came out of the Weimar period.

Honestly the more I learn about the Weimar republic the less surprised I am that it ended.

 

[gral]

It did and yes, it does. All the more reason why we never should have sided with the Brits.

Feh, the Weimar Republic just brought to the surface a lot of things that were bubbling just below in Wilhelmine Germany.

 

[DarthOne]

Feh, the Weimar Republic just brought to the surface a lot of things that were bubbling just below in Wilhelmine Germany.

Maybe. But a healthier Germany would have been able to deal with it much better

 

[ATP]

Feh, the Weimar Republic just brought to the surface a lot of things that were bubbling just below in Wilhelmine Germany.

You are right.

Maybe. But a healthier Germany would have been able to deal with it much better

You also are right.

 

[DarthOne]

Weimer had performed an experimental gender transition bottom surgery on a 3 year old baby ... at an entire college dedicated to the study of child sexual transitioning.

Its just that the nazies killed those people and burned their books. so USA had to "start over" with this degeneracy

One of the few things on a very, VERY short list the Nazis did that could be called good by anyone with morals.

 

[LordsFire]

One of the few things on a very, VERY short list the Nazis did that could be called good by anyone with morals.

There's a reason that 'Then suddenly, for no reason, Hitler was voted into power' is a meme.

What came before the fascists took power was also very evil. Not to the same scale, it was more degenerate than murderous, but a lot of the reason people were willing to vote the fascists in, was because what was already in place was horrifying, and there was a lack of clear moral vision of better places to go.

 

[Morphic Tide]

There's a reason that 'Then suddenly, for no reason, Hitler was voted into power' is a meme.

What came before the fascists took power was also very evil. Not to the same scale, it was more degenerate than murderous, but a lot of the reason people were willing to vote the fascists in, was because what was already in place was horrifying, and there was a lack of clear moral vision of better places to go.

Importantly to the Fascists getting so far was that the first few years were better for the vast majority, including some of the groups they went on to inflict unprecedented scale of horrors upon.

 

[mrttao]

unprecedented scale of horrors upon.

have you ever studied any history, like, at all?

 

[Morphic Tide]

have you ever studied any history, like, at all?

Higher rates abound in assorted migrations, but for raw body-counts prior to the Nazis you have to either bundle rather extended periods with multiple changes in overall direction that often were far more on the "fucked up by pushing too hard" side than the "getting rid of opposition" side, take East Asia "war is hell" as far more intentional than is reasonable, or parse WW2 and the Holodomor in rather unusual ways.

Maybe you can bundle up Mongol activities enough to consolidate a comparable case, but nobody else could reach enough people to breech eight figures in entirely-on-purpose death toll. To my understanding, most of the Mongol's kill count was very typical "war is hell" collateral including the famines and plagues kicked off by the much smaller numbers they killed on purpose, whereas the Nazi Party declaring war on Poland was with the intent of eventually killing every single Pole, for all Generalplan Ost never got underway.

Breaking into eight figures of "we specifically went out of our way to kill them" is a pretty modern thing.

 

[Ixian]

Higher rates abound in assorted migrations, but for raw body-counts prior to the Nazis you have to either bundle rather extended periods with multiple changes in overall direction that often were far more on the "fucked up by pushing too hard" side than the "getting rid of opposition" side, take East Asia "war is hell" as far more intentional than is reasonable, or parse WW2 and the Holodomor in rather unusual ways.

Maybe you can bundle up Mongol activities enough to consolidate a comparable case, but nobody else could reach enough people to breech eight figures in entirely-on-purpose death toll. To my understanding, most of the Mongol's kill count was very typical "war is hell" collateral including the famines and plagues kicked off by the much smaller numbers they killed on purpose, whereas the Nazi Party declaring war on Poland was with the intent of eventually killing every single Pole, for all Generalplan Ost never got underway.

Breaking into eight figures of "we specifically went out of our way to kill them" is a pretty modern thing.

I think that has more to do with industrial and technological capabilities than intent. Many minority groups within easy reach of aggressors were eradicated throughout preindustrial history, not a lot of Cathars around anymore you'll notice.

 

[Grimalkin]

I think that has more to do with industrial and technological capabilities than intent. Many minority groups within easy reach of aggressors were eradicated throughout preindustrial history, not a lot of Cathars around anymore you'll notice.

Well in his defence he did specify scale, and it was unprecedented in scale at the time. Sure the Soviets and CCP eventually beat that record but that doesn't change the fact that the Germans held the record for a solid stretch of time.

 

[gral]

Maybe. But a healthier Germany would have been able to deal with it much better

A healthier Germany certainly would, but I don't think even a victorious Germany would have been much healthier - unless they win the war by 1915 at the latest.

 

[mrttao]

Higher rates abound in assorted migrations, but for raw body-counts prior to the Nazis you have to either bundle rather extended periods with multiple changes in overall direction that often were far more on the "fucked up by pushing too hard" side than the "getting rid of opposition" side, take East Asia "war is hell" as far more intentional than is reasonable, or parse WW2 and the Holodomor in rather unusual ways.

Maybe you can bundle up Mongol activities enough to consolidate a comparable case, but nobody else could reach enough people to breech eight figures in entirely-on-purpose death toll. To my understanding, most of the Mongol's kill count was very typical "war is hell" collateral including the famines and plagues kicked off by the much smaller numbers they killed on purpose, whereas the Nazi Party declaring war on Poland was with the intent of eventually killing every single Pole, for all Generalplan Ost never got underway.

Breaking into eight figures of "we specifically went out of our way to kill them" is a pretty modern thing.

Right, thanks for confirming you never studied any history ever.
Genocide is just tuesday for humanity.

it always happened in human history both ancient and modern. it continues to this day.
Yes people went out of their way to kill the other side before the nazies.
Also typically during genocides people are tortured to death.

Not only is "we went out of our way to kill them" a thing, but there are lots of historical claims of "we killed every man woman and child. then all the animals. then we salted the earth to kill the plants too"
Although it is plausible that this is an exaggeration and propaganda. But we definitely know there are plenty of cases of children being killed as parts of genocide throughout history.

And no, hitler is not the first person to reach 6 figures kill count.
The armenian genocide reached 2.5 million dead during world war 1

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Right, thanks for confirming you never studied any history ever.
Genocide is just tuesday for humanity.

it always happened in human history both ancient and modern. it continues to this day.
Yes people went out of their way to kill the other side before the nazies.
Also typically during genocides people are tortured to death.

Not only is "we went out of our way to kill them" a thing, but there are lots of historical claims of "we killed every man woman and child. then all the animals. then we salted the earth to kill the plants too"
Although it is plausible that this is an exaggeration and propaganda. But we definitely know there are plenty of cases of children being killed as parts of genocide throughout history.

And no, hitler is not the first person to reach 6 figures kill count.
The armenian genocide reached 2.5 million dead during world war 1

True but I think what makes Hitler so graphic in our minds is A. the fact that it's recent and B. The personal accounts have been so well kept from the victims to the perpetrators. Heck, when America first invaded the camps the man behind the operation wanted it all recorded on tape because "People will deny that this ever occurred." and he wanted to make sure that didn't happen. So while he may not be the first or even the worst, Hitler's genocide probably scarred the most deeply...for now.

Course now we've gone from people denying the holocaust happened to saying "They got what was coming to them." so who knows what any of it actually means. *sigh*