Leftist Child Grooming

Cherico

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Your post would especially have been true a few decades ago, but now it is sheer chaos- look at the different factions. Nobody likes "transsexuals," does anyone believe BLM and white suburban protestors can tolerate each other for long? TERFs hate transsexuals. It's about the "progressive stack," but it's a zero-sum game.

It is chaos, and nobody can control it.

This is why I'm waiting for those who have hated me and have tried to ruin me, turning other demographics against me, to suddenly claim "we" must stand together.

my money is that the hispanic and Asian community realizes their not getting anything and are infact getting screwed by the establishment up and joining with the deplorables.

The black comunity joins enmass when the system runs out of other peoples money.
 

Marduk

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While I agree in broad strokes that you're correct, and the KGB infiltration ended mostly with the fall of the USSR in the 80s and that what we have in the west is mostly self sustaining at this point, one thing you may not be aware of is that as early as the 00s and 10s China began their own influence and infiltration efforts against the US, both covert and overt. There is a reason Wokism resembles Maoist Communism more than it does Soviet Communism, and that is in part due to direct China influence efforts.
In a way, yes. In other way though, that's just plain adaptation. As Maoism is called "communism with Chinese characteristics", some people have called wokeness as "communism with American characteristics".
As such, cutting off the head would help a bit, but we need to thoroughly fix the academic institutions as well, with the easiest method being tying government funding to showcasing intellectual diversity of thought on campuses, with exceptions for explicitly religious institutions that could then be allowed to maintain a specific intellectual bias. Since Leftists insist their ideology is secular and not religious, this means their bastions will either have to no longer receive any public funding OR they will be forced to diversify their intellectual base and meanwhile explicitly Christian colleges can maintain a Christian worldview without being disadvantaged. Further, if leftist colleges rebrand themselves using, say, Progressive Christianity or Wicca or such to protect their ability to maintain ideological control of the faculty, that ideology is now, legally, tied to a religion and thus falls under the Establishment clause of the Constitution, opening it up to legal challenges the same way teaching or writing laws regarding explicit Christian religious beliefs have been. In short, if they try and take the third option, we turn their own, long, history of jurisprudence against them, which then places them in yet another catch-22, either they get their ideology purged from public areas via the same methods they used to purge Christianity from those areas OR they overturn those cases thus allowing ALL religions back in.

It's a simple solution, though it would require control of the Federal government for long enough to implement and get it to stick.
I don't think that's a trick leftist institutions won't be able to wiggle their way around without the supervision being highly hostile to them in the first place. They are perfectly capable of both maintaining a "religious wing" (they already do in form of certain Jewish, Islamic and progressive Christian ally organizations) and playing mere formal games with which of the many secular and non-secular heads of the hydra owns what, even if the non-secular heads will have to be given more prominence, and they are also perfectly willing to arrange fake "intellectual diversity" if forced to, which will get you a "Christian" socialist, Muslim influence agent, a black identitarian, a progressive socialist and a communist all arguing why their preferred way of ruining the country is the best. They may even throw in a David French style or otherwise non-threatening designated "right" punching bag for show.

The core problem there is left's institutional ability to control where exactly the line between legitimate and non-legitimate ideological pressure lies, religious or not, and drawing that line in such a wiggly way that what they want to be the legitimate kind becomes "policing against harmful hate speech and discrimination" while the non legitimate kind becomes "hate speech and bigotry" or something like that. As long as they keep the ability to slowly morph such ideological pseudo-legal doctrine into law and regulations and get away with it, they have the tools to tunnel their way through the system you described too. I doubt they would have gotten as far as they did without using such means even as the already existing regulations stand.
 
Something a lot of people who talk tough against leftism by way of street violence do NOT understand is how warfare works.

In brief: wars are lost when kings fall, not pawns.

What's more wars can be won by taking high ground, key positions- the 300 Spartans shows what happens when this can be done, a few can inflict massive damage to many. The Zulus learned this the hard way.

The leftist elites long ago despised and still do women and minorities. They weren't even counted. But when it became obvious white men, be they poor, middle-class, or rich, did not want to follow the Bolshevik movement THAT'S when feminism and racemongering were started in earnest.

But even so it couldn't work by direct confrontation. So they began the "long march" through key institutions like entertainment, schools, the judiciary, economic- key positions. The result was that a few thousands had more power and influence than tens of millions. This is why, even if one could push a button and make Antifa disappear right now, it would do little good- they are the pawns, and after a time the elites (kings) would simply do something else.

I am black-pilled because there are really only two possibilities: either this dystopian nightmare is just going to get worse and worse or it will be all-out war, not a "civil war" but more like what you saw in the Soviet Union after it collapsed- many factions battling it out. We are now past the point of reconciliation, it has been too much for too long. It is NOT going to get better.

If you have no hope, what keeps you going?
 

Allanon

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The problem is that any victory at this point will be Pyrrhic.

Let's say Hollywood falls, Disney, all of it- the economic damage will be terrible.

America is divided into factions.

What will come, barring a miracle, is ruin. That is something to look forward to?
 

Ixian

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The problem is that any victory at this point will be Pyrrhic.

Let's say Hollywood falls, Disney, all of it- the economic damage will be terrible.

America is divided into factions.

What will come, barring a miracle, is ruin. That is something to look forward to?

Its the post-ruin stuff that most look forward to.

The American revolutionaries probably weren't looking forward to fighting the world superpower of the age, they were looking forward to what came after victory.
 

Cherico

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The problem is that any victory at this point will be Pyrrhic.

Let's say Hollywood falls, Disney, all of it- the economic damage will be terrible.

America is divided into factions.

What will come, barring a miracle, is ruin. That is something to look forward to?

Then you rebuild.

Civil conflicts, civil wars happen all the time throughout the historical time line, americas unusually stable by most nations standards for going 150 years with out a civil war. I don't think most people appreciate just how unusally stable that is. France has gone through muliple republics. Our south american friends can tell you about coups and revolutions.

Mexican history is a dumpster fire, but the thing is once the fightings over then you can rebuild, and human beings most of the time do rebuild. A civil war is in most cases not the end of the country or the world but a painful time and a transition to something else.
 

Allanon

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Did it ever occur to you that if rebuilding is even possible the people rebuilding will not tolerate those responsible for causing the collapse via economy and leftism?

Do you think the people capable of rebuilding will say "oh sure let's allow the very ones who caused the collapse, the misery, the permanent breakup of America, the deaths and suffering, to be here? Forgiveness instead of healthy normal revenge and exile- or even death?"

No. It will be harsh and draconian. Are YOU ready for such a future?
 

Ixian

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Did it ever occur to you that if rebuilding is even possible the people rebuilding will not tolerate those responsible for causing the collapse via economy and leftism?

Do you think the people capable of rebuilding will say "oh sure let's allow the very ones who caused the collapse, the misery, the permanent breakup of America, the deaths and suffering, to be here? Forgiveness instead of healthy normal revenge and exile- or even death?"

No. It will be harsh and draconian. Are YOU ready for such a future?

In a world of boot heels and necks, It is often less painful to be the boot, and I certainly don't plan on being the neck.
 

DarthOne

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Did it ever occur to you that if rebuilding is even possible the people rebuilding will not tolerate those responsible for causing the collapse via economy and leftism?

Do you think the people capable of rebuilding will say "oh sure let's allow the very ones who caused the collapse, the misery, the permanent breakup of America, the deaths and suffering, to be here? Forgiveness instead of healthy normal revenge and exile- or even death?"

No. It will be harsh and draconian. Are YOU ready for such a future?

Given what the Left/political establishment will do to us if they win or if there isn’t a war? Regrettably, it seems like I don’t have much choice in the matter.
 

mrttao

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Did it ever occur to you that if rebuilding is even possible the people rebuilding will not tolerate those responsible for causing the collapse via economy and leftism?

Do you think the people capable of rebuilding will say "oh sure let's allow the very ones who caused the collapse, the misery, the permanent breakup of America, the deaths and suffering, to be here? Forgiveness instead of healthy normal revenge and exile- or even death?"

No. It will be harsh and draconian. Are YOU ready for such a future?
Let me know when you convince the woke cult to back off so that this isn't necessary
 

Cherico

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Let me know when you convince the woke cult to back off so that this isn't necessary

Action reaction, at this point the left has structural control over all of the insitutions and you notice that trust in all of the insitutions is falling apart. The worse they are now the worse the reaction will be.

If were comparing this to previous revolutions expecially the american one. Parlament had a whole swathe of oportunities to avoid revolution but their desire for power and constant dismissal and refusal to reward loyality ended with them losing america. Like wise the left looks like their shutting down every effort at a peaceful redress of grievances and so setting up the ugliness that is to come.

I am fully confident that they will lose this, dispite all of their current advantages, dispite all of their money dispite all of the tech their not following basic social contract shit, being incredibly corrupt and their rule is increasingly just strait out incompetent. The western left now the establishment is heading firmly into decadent court of idiots phase before a major fall.

It would be a cruel historical Irony but the children of Robespire may just suffer the same fate of the ancient regime they toppled with modernity ending the way it began.
 

Allanon

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Let me know when you convince the woke cult to back off so that this isn't necessary

As I've said before it won't. Have you actually seen these people? They are the Golem run amok, even the ones responsible have lost control of them. ANTIFA is proof they don't even know about themselves- those flags represent Anarchists and Communists, and those two have NEVER gotten along- the communists always kill off the anarchists.

We have seen what leftism has done to Hollywood and entertainment in general, and how it has led to their collapse. Hollywood is dying, "Star Wars" is a joke on a money-losing streaming service, people wouldn't mind if Disney was hit by a killer asteroid, Manga taking over from American comics is like a pit bull beating an unconscious corgi, and it has spread to necessary aspects of our lives which is why less and less can get done.

I hate to keep beating everyone over the head by mentioning my age, but it does mean I have actually seen it happen step by step. I was around in a much saner time. I have seen many good things twisted and killed. Leftism is in fact a cancer which takes over everything, including environmentalism, and like the physical disease kills the body it attacks. It takes, it demands, yet contributes nothing of value.

It can all end in only one way- collapse and a post-Soviet situation with many factions fighting. Leftists have no real skills, no real ability to build, so they will die off but before that they will destroy cities and swarm over the countryside because they have no concept of what it takes to keep any level of civilization going. I work with farmers although I am not one myself and can tell you it is hard work with broken-down equipment, work which, especially with livestock, must be done. Do you think any of these people are up to it? No.

Heck, some of the people I work with thought I was crazy with some of the things I build- until they discovered how useful they turned out to be. This came in part from watching and reading old shows and movies. They inspired, they made you look beyond.

The worst part is that it never had to come to this. It's not like some unavoidable natural disaster created this situation, it was done deliberately by troublemakers who now are worried about what is happening- Hollywood's downfall is just the early stage.

By the by- to my surprise Nerdrotic mentioned "Blackrock" and "Vanguard." You should learn about them too, it does explain why so many entities parrot the same woke trash.
 

Allanon

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Do you know what is the most darkly hilarious, the most ironic part of all of this?

To rebel, to be anti-establishment, means now going against what the Baby Boomers have created- they now ARE the "Establishment," they now ARE "The Man."

Want to do a sweet comic with traditional values? You are rebelling!

Want to keep classic stuff like "Lord of the Rings" and "Star Wars" canon, what they were? You upstart you!

Sure, the institutions will collapse- and it will be sheer hell as a result when society goes with it.
 
Do you know what is the most darkly hilarious, the most ironic part of all of this?

To rebel, to be anti-establishment, means now going against what the Baby Boomers have created- they now ARE the "Establishment," they now ARE "The Man."

Want to do a sweet comic with traditional values? You are rebelling!

Want to keep classic stuff like "Lord of the Rings" and "Star Wars" canon, what they were? You upstart you!

Sure, the institutions will collapse- and it will be sheer hell as a result when society goes with it.
Do you think we'll see something like the hunger games? periodical executions to make people afraid of the consequences for having dangerous ideas?
 

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That's... that's so... terrible... It's getting harder for minors to access gender affirming care... Kids are just... spilling... gender all over the place with no medical recourse apparently.

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