Kiwi Farms under attack again

Cherico

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Hit them with a lawsuit about interfering with a contract. I'm sure they would love to explain their actions in court.

torerous interference is a sueable crime.

Honestly I'm just waiting for the tipping point to be reached were people collectively just get sick of this shit. Once that hits...well those activists have done a whole lot of very illegal shit all that's lacking is the will.
 

UberIguana

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According to the update thread on tor, the clearnet domain was seized by the registrar, which has stealthily turned into a shitshow while the farms weren't looking. Apparently Epik, the registrar, is an industry lolcow with a history of stealing domains. The clearnet domain is inactive until something can be sorted out.

On December 12th, 2023 I opened the Kiwi Farms via its primary domain at kiwifarms.net and received an SSL handshake error. I am very familiar with breaking the site and have seen this error many times when working on the frontends, so I know it means one of two things: 1) the webserver is misconfigured to use https://, or 2) the webserver is properly configured but not using an SSL certificate for kiwifarms.net.

Since I was not working on the forum, I immediately diagnosed this as a DNS issue and confirmed the A/AAAA record had changed to just a Terrahost IP.

Terrahost is a subsidiary of Kingdom Ventures, the owner of Epik. I again immediately assumed that Epik had parked kiwifarms.net to a corporate landing page, which would explain both the DNS change and the SSL error. (To be clear, Terrahost was not involved in this, and is functionally independent of Kingdom Venture's Epik despite being a subsidiary).

Epik had removed kiwifarms.net from my domain portfolio. A representative in chat confirmed that the domain violated ToS. I later found an email about it:




Notice of Domain Suspension and Prohibited Content Violation

Dear Joshua,

We are writing to inform you about the suspension of your domain name, kiwifarms.net, registered with Epik. The purpose of this communication is to notify you of the violation of our Terms of Service, specifically regarding the presence of prohibited content on your website.

Upon careful review with our legal team, we have determined that your website's content violates our published terms of service, which strictly prohibit the hosting or promotion of content that falls within the category of prohibited content. This policy is in place to ensure compliance with legal and ethical standards as well as ICANN rules.

Compliance with our Terms of Service is essential to maintaining a secure online environment for all our customers. That said, the domain has been suspended and removed from your account in violation of Epik.com's Terms of Service.

Should you have any questions or require further clarification regarding this issue, please contact our abuse team at [redacted].

Regards,
Abuse Team
Epik




Their abuse team has never clarified what part of their ToS we violated.

To explain the history of Epik is difficult. The company is a shitshow. Under the supervision of Rob Monster, they earned a strong reputation for pro-1A. This ended with 8chan, when after 1/6 they decided to force 8chan to move their domains off the platform. Rob Monster was actually so traumatized by 8chan that he instituted a blanket ban on imageboards across Epik, which I learned about through briefly hosting 9chan. This policy seems to still be in place, because the Soyjak Party's secondary domain with Epik was also seized the same day kiwifarms.net.

This decision was extremely confusing to me, because Epik had enjoyed a hostile takeover from Brian Royce, a libertarian out of Las Vegas who has a legally registered RPG-7 in his office. I had received personal assurances from him that Kiwi Farms would be safe on Epik. After bringing this up to the abuse department, they informed me that Brian was gone.

Epik's corporation had been in chaos because they stole millions of dollars of domains from bulk buyers years ago under Rob's supervision, which is what caused Brian Royce to try and take the reigns and save the ship.

Epik the domain registrar was bought by a mysterious company recently registered called Epik LLC. Nobody seems to know who owns it, by design. Epik LLC is different from Epik under Kingdom Ventures, and their new direction for the company seems to be stealing domains again. Terrahost is still owned by Kingdom Ventures.

If this sounds like a shitshow, it is, and there are hundreds of people in the industry who watch the Epik Shitshow much like how we watch lolcows make videos about being married to pokemon.


So in short, Epik has restructured and is no longer being managed competently as it was only briefly under Brian Royce. Thanks to sufficient outrage we were able to compel Epik to give us transfer codes and now kiwifarms.net is parked. kiwifarms.net should continue to redirect to whatever domain we're on until I can get something going permanently.




Kicked us off

  • Dreamhost
  • Cloudflare
  • NameSilo
Seized our domains

  • Epik
  • Key-Systems GmbH (intermediary for many registrars)
"No thanks"

  • Internet.bs
  • Tucows
  • ilovewww
Ideological radicals

  • Key-Systems GmbH ("We do not tolerate hate sites"* as defined by a mentally handicapped German)
  • Njalla ("you are anti-trans")
  • 1984.is ("we don't want you")
 

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