EU Italian Mafia making a comeback...thanks to the pandemic?!?!

Lanmandragon said:
Frankly the Mafia mkung a comeback in Italy is good. They won't accept the Muslim crap going on. Instead they'll just kill them until they stop criminals or no. The mob and men like them are exactly what Europe needs if they don't want to be a caliphate.
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No not really, Mafia is first and formost for profit organisation which has long and storied history of fucking over the people of the region for a few coins more. Right now they are part of facilitation of migrant importation as they exploit african cheap labor, especially in agriculture, where they had been systematically driving out the small farmers, so they themselves could reap the EU subsisdies. And while they might punis the worst of rapefugee excesses in order to keep control, they'll keep the flow coming out of their greed, until they are beyond tipping point.
 
PsihoKekec said:
No not really, Mafia is first and formost for profit organisation which has long and storied history of fucking over the people of the region for a few coins more. Right now they are part of facilitation of migrant importation as they exploit african cheap labor, especially in agriculture, where they had been systematically driving out the small farmers, so they themselves could reap the EU subsisdies. And while they might punis the worst of rapefugee excesses in order to keep control, they'll keep the flow coming out of their greed, until they are beyond tipping point.
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Fair enough that's an actual argument. "They'll kill arabs that shouldn't be here and only are here due to our traitorous government" is not.
 
First, Italy is one of the few countries that does try to stop immigration, so I don't think the mafia is even necessary.
Lanmandragon said:
According to whom? 10s pf thousands of young military age males bum rushing your border. Then proceeding to abuse and rape your women. While simultaneously trying to impose thuer laws and culture onto you. Is called a fucking invasion regardless of what the treasonous scum in Rome and Brussels say. How many Europeanwonen need to be brutalized before retaltion is appropriate? How many young women need to be literally enslaved huh? 100,000? A million how many?
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Justice is based on an individual level. Rapists can, and should, be shot. But the majority aren't. Those should be deported, with maybe some actual refugees being granted safety in a country not of their choosing.

Group punishment for what a minority does is a bad idea, and an immoral one. So is killing innocents on purpose. These are both evil. And that's ignoring the countless other evils that the Mafia does, including being much more 'skilled' at sex slavery. The mafia are by no means a 'lesser evil' than mass immigration.
 
Abhorsen said:
First, Italy is one of the few countries that does try to stop immigration, so I don't think the mafia is even necessary.

Justice is based on an individual level. Rapists can, and should, be shot. But the majority aren't. Those should be deported, with maybe some actual refugees being granted safety in a country not of their choosing.

Group punishment for what a minority does is a bad idea, and an immoral one. So is killing innocents on purpose. These are both evil. And that's ignoring the countless other evils that the Mafia does, including being much more 'skilled' at sex slavery. The mafia are by no means a 'lesser evil' than mass immigration.
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You say "punishment" I say war. The issue is you consider this "immigration" it's not. It's an ivasion intended to conquer Europe I also reject thier "innocent". There are no Innocents in an invading horde. Unfortunately alot of the Euros buy that it's immigration. They'll pay for this by losing thier lands because you can bet your ass. That the Arabs very much know they are waging war by other means.
 
Lanmandragon said:
You say "punishment" I say war. The issue is you consider this "immigration" it's not. It's an ivasion intended to conquer Europe I also reject thier "innocent". There are no Innocents in an invading horde. Unfortunately alot of the Euros buy that it's immigration. They'll pay for this by losing thier lands because you can bet your ass. That the Arabs very much know they are waging war by other means.
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This isn't an invasion. They are being let in legally. Until that is stopped and your country says no, this isn't an invasion, it's stupidity. If you don't like them entering your country, vote the politicians out. Or have a war against the politicians and resist them if they won't pay attention. But don't encourage the mafia, or you won't end up in a good place. It's like allying with communists to get rid of fascism. You are still left with evil, even if you win.
 
Abhorsen said:
This isn't an invasion. They are being let in legally. Until that is stopped and your country says no, this isn't an invasion, it's stupidity. If you don't like them entering your country, vote the politicians out. Or have a war against the politicians and resist them if they won't pay attention. But don't encourage the mafia, or you won't end up in a good place. It's like allying with communists to get rid of fascism. You are still left with evil, even if you win.
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Once again European goverments are by definition illegitimate. So no the immigrants are not legal and it very much is an invasion. Fair enough about the mob but stop being naive. Also not my country I'm just pointing out the reality of what's happening. Keep buying the MSM narrative though Europes doomed anyway . Thier men have already shown they won't defend themselves. It's sad honestly
 
Lanmandragon said:
Once again European goverments are by definition illegitimate. So no the immigrants are not legal and it very much is an invasion. Fair enough about the mob but stop being naive. Also not my country I'm just pointing out the reality of what's happening. Keep buying the MSM narrative though Europes doomed anyway . Thier men have already shown they won't defend themselves. It's sad honestly
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If the governments aren't legitimate, then there who is to decide whether the immigration is legitimate or not? Honest question. I'm also not sure which MSM narrative I'm buying. I don't agree with mass immigration. I think it's stupid that Europe left it's borders wide open. At the same time, I don't believe death is a reasonable punishment for people who aren't even violating a stated law.
 
Abhorsen said:
If the governments aren't legitimate, then there who is to decide whether the immigration is legitimate or not? Honest question. I'm also not sure which MSM narrative I'm buying. I don't agree with mass immigration. I think it's stupid that Europe left it's borders wide open. At the same time, I don't believe death is a reasonable punishment for people who aren't even violating a stated law.
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That it's immigration is a narrative. They are operating a Tayquia operation. It's an invasion intended to islamify Europe plain and simple. Any government that didn't surrender sovernity to Brussels (Berlin actually). Surrendering your states sovernity removes your legtimacy to govern. Deporting them and sealing the borderis preferable but it's not gonna happen. So what your left with is surrender to them and accept Sharia or kill them.
 
Lanmandragon said:
That it's immigration is a narrative. They are operating a Tayquia operation. It's an invasion intended to islamify Europe plain and simple. Any government that didn't surrender sovernity to Brussels (Berlin actually). Surrendering your states sovernity removes your legtimacy to govern. Deporting them and sealing the borderis preferable but it's not gonna happen. So what your left with is surrender to them and accept Sharia or kill them.
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That you think they are unified is silly. They are individuals all following the same decision process: My life sucks, my life in Europe would be better because of welfare, Europe won't stop me from entering. What this ends up looking like is an organized assault on Europe, but it really isn't, outside of Turkey taking advantage of this to attack Greece. We have seen this same process before with Europeans leaving for America. Irishmen (and others) all noted that they were starving, America wasn't, and they were somewhat welcome there. So they went.
 
Abhorsen said:
That you think they are unified is silly. They are individuals all following the same decision process: My life sucks, my life in Europe would be better because of welfare, Europe won't stop me from entering. What this ends up looking like is an organized assault on Europe, but it really isn't, outside of Turkey taking advantage of this to attack Greece. We have seen this same process before with Europeans leaving for America. Irishmen (and others) all noted that they were starving, America wasn't, and they were somewhat welcome there. So they went.
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Well I wouldn't say that the immigrants don't have thoughts about replacing the natives. There is an article posted online where an immigrant goes on about how Danes will be exterminated and how they don't have any children while the immigrants do. I will post it later.



They likely are not unified in like this is a master plan but they do see the pattern of low birthrates and the natives not having kids whereas they are having kids and that they are the future rulers given time. So they take advantage. Who wouldn't?!
 
Abhorsen said:
That you think they are unified is silly. They are individuals all following the same decision process: My life sucks, my life in Europe would be better because of welfare, Europe won't stop me from entering. What this ends up looking like is an organized assault on Europe, but it really isn't, outside of Turkey taking advantage of this to attack Greece. We have seen this same process before with Europeans leaving for America. Irishmen (and others) all noted that they were starving, America wasn't, and they were somewhat welcome there. So they went.
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I understand you believe this I don't. I've read thier holy book and seen 1,400 years of conquest. They don't have to be "unified" only get plurality/majority. Then impose Islam as per thier own religious teachings. Well see who's right in the next 30 years or so. Until then I choose to believe that they believe in the relgion they espouse.
 
LifeisTiresome said:
Well I wouldn't say that the immigrants don't have thoughts about replacing the natives. There is an article posted online where an immigrant goes on about how Danes will be exterminated and how they don't have any children while the immigrants do. I will post it later.



They likely are not unified in like this is a master plan but they do see the pattern of low birthrates and the natives not having kids whereas they are having kids and that they are the future rulers given time. So they take advantage. Who wouldn't?!
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Oh, I'm sure there are some crazies. In addition, mass immigration into Europe is totally a threat. I think they are moving not as some grand conspiracy, but because each individual benefits.
Lanmandragon said:
I understand you believe this I don't. I've read thier holy book and seen 1,400 years of conquest. They don't have to be "unified" only get plurality/majority. Then impose Islam as per thier own religious teachings. Well see who's right in the next 30 years or so. Until then I choose to believe that they believe in the relgion they espouse.
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They definitely believe in it, and it is a religion that espouses horrific things. That doesn't mean they are working in concert like you claim though. It doesn't pass Occam's razor.
 
Abhorsen said:
Oh, I'm sure there are some crazies. In addition, mass immigration into Europe is totally a threat. I think they are moving not as some grand conspiracy, but because each individual benefits.

They definitely believe in it, and it is a religion that espouses horrific things. That doesn't mean they are working in concert like you claim though. It doesn't pass Occam's razor.
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They don't need to "act in concert" just follow the faith. I never claimed they were acting in concert anyway believe me. You don't need to try and read subtext from me. I'll say exactly what I intend to Islam is a relgion of conquest.
 
Abhorsen said:
You did everything but. Calling them an invading horde implies acting in concert. Then you said the invasion had an intent:
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Because it does the intent is laid put in the Koran. "Acting in concert" or not obeidiance to the Koran means conquest of all non Muslims. I'm inclined to take the mulims words at face value.
 
PsihoKekec said:
No not really, Mafia is first and formost for profit organisation which has long and storied history of fucking over the people of the region for a few coins more. Right now they are part of facilitation of migrant importation as they exploit african cheap labor, especially in agriculture, where they had been systematically driving out the small farmers, so they themselves could reap the EU subsisdies. And while they might punis the worst of rapefugee excesses in order to keep control, they'll keep the flow coming out of their greed, until they are beyond tipping point.
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That's what I'm wondering too: What's stopping some Don from deciding that smuggling "refugees" is worth a lot of money? If they get them here, the locals will pay the mafia to remove said "refugees", thus doubling the money they can get.
The Mafia IS primarily a criminal for-profit organisation-slash-militia.
 
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