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Coronavirus: The lure of mafia money during the crisis

Italian businesses are crumbling in the crisis, leaving a familiar "benefactor" to fill the vacuum.
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The coronavirus is new, but distributing food parcels to the needy is an old mafia tactic.

"The aim is to gain credibility and to step in as an alternative to the state," says Nicola Gratteri, an anti-mafia investigator and head of the prosecutor's office in Catanzaro, in Calabria.

The goal is to strengthen a base of support, he says.

Italy's economy has been in a bad way for years, with high unemployment and slow economic growth. The lockdown tipped some people over the edge into desperation. But accepting even the smallest help from a mafioso is extremely dangerous.

"The mafia has never done anything out of generosity. That concept doesn't exist for them," says Enza Rando who works for an anti-mafia organisation. "All they know is "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine'."
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Lanmandragon said:
Frankly the Mafia mkung a comeback in Italy is good. They won't accept the Muslim crap going on. Instead they'll just kill them until they stop criminals or no. The mob and men like them are exactly what Europe needs if they don't want to be a caliphate.
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Wait, they’re doing that? I’d think that organized crime would make use of them for things like Human Trafficking and Sexual Slavery

Unless they have a thing about ACTUALLY PROTECTING those who pay their protection racket
 
Lanmandragon said:
Frankly the Mafia mkung a comeback in Italy is good. They won't accept the Muslim crap going on. Instead they'll just kill them until they stop criminals or no. The mob and men like them are exactly what Europe needs if they don't want to be a caliphate.
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Sure. Criminal terrorism instead of maybe some religious terrorism. Sounds like a great trade-off. Also, you are advocating for genocide right there. Killing migrants is not an ethical solution.
 
Lanmandragon said:
Killing Invaders which is what they are is perfectly moral. Whatever though man I can't argue due to the way the site posts my replys so...
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I may think they’ll bring in a really socially regressive society but not all of them are engaging in those crimes where they get scott free

It’d honestly be better, if rather unlikely, if the Italian people were willing, equipped and capable of self defense and were also voting them away

I mean even Greece’s Left doesn’t like them
 
Lanmandragon said:
Killing Invaders which is what they are is perfectly moral. Whatever though man I can't argue due to the way the site posts my replys so...
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Idk what you are talking about with the replys. But in response to killing muslims being good, the mafia in no way will differentiate between legal muslim entrants and illegal migrants, and even if they did, death (probably with torture) is not an acceptable punishment for illegal immigration. It's abhorrently out of proportion. Meanwhile, the Mafia will blow up trains of innocent people, national landmarks, and countless cars. Even if all the migrants were pro-ISIS, that would be an easier problem to solve than a resurgent italian mafia.
 
Abhorsen said:
Idk what you are talking about with the replys. But in response to killing muslims being good, the mafia in no way will differentiate between legal muslim entrants and illegal migrants, and even if they did, death (probably with torture) is not an acceptable punishment for illegal immigration. It's abhorrently out of proportion. Meanwhile, the Mafia will blow up trains of innocent people, national landmarks, and countless cars. Even if all the migrants were pro-ISIS, that would be an easier problem to solve than a resurgent italian mafia.
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Honestly, I think people at times forget how crazy and evil organized crime is, maybe to do with entertainment portraying them as "honorable" in-spite of their atrocities

Just because you can't count on your own law enforcement to keep you safe, doesn't mean the local crime boss is automatically a saint or a "necessary evil", it'd be better if people protected themselves or say relied on some organized community network to stay safe and connect with fellow victims

As hard as it sounds to put into practice
 
Abhorsen said:
Idk what you are talking about with the replys. But in response to killing muslims being good, the mafia in no way will differentiate between legal muslim entrants and illegal migrants, and even if they did, death (probably with torture) is not an acceptable punishment for illegal immigration. It's abhorrently out of proportion. Meanwhile, the Mafia will blow up trains of innocent people, national landmarks, and countless cars. Even if all the migrants were pro-ISIS, that would be an easier problem to solve than a resurgent italian mafia.
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Not really. The political will to fight crime exists. The political will to fight islamification doesn't, at least in Europe.

I'd say the muslim gangs that have been cropping up are bad, and the mafia is bad. I'd rather have neither, and if they both fight each other and tear each other into weakness, that's the best for everyone else.
 
Abhorsen said:
Idk what you are talking about with the replys. But in response to killing muslims being good, the mafia in no way will differentiate between legal muslim entrants and illegal migrants, and even if they did, death (probably with torture) is not an acceptable punishment for illegal immigration. It's abhorrently out of proportion. Meanwhile, the Mafia will blow up trains of innocent people, national landmarks, and countless cars.
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Basically the site removes words typed and puts my cursor back to the middle of the reply for no reason.

Anyway "legal" Muslim immigration isn't a thing. The government's of Europe are illegitimate until they ditch the EU. Surrendering your people's sovernity to another state. Removes your legitamacy as a government. Muslim "immigration" is a damn invasion period. So since the state refuses o respond to said invasion. The men of that nation are not only justified in killing Invaders and iverthrowing the state. They are in fact beholden to do so to protect thier families. It's pretty simple the Mafia is vastly more legtimate then the government in Rome.
 
LordsFire said:
I'd say the muslim gangs that have been cropping up are bad, and the mafia is bad. I'd rather have neither, and if they both fight each other and tear each other into weakness, that's the best for everyone else.
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I doubt the mafia would discriminate between the muslim gangs and just regular muslims though.
LordsFire said:
Not really. The political will to fight crime exists. The political will to fight islamification doesn't, at least in Europe.
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For a long time the political will to fight the mafia didn't exist. I'd rather that not become re-entrenched.

Lanmandragon said:
Anyway "legal" Muslim immigration isn't a thing. The government's of Europe are illegitimate until they ditch the EU. Surrendering your people's sovernity to another state. Removes your legitamacy as a government. Muslim "immigration" is a damn invasion period. So since the state refuses o respond to said invasion. The men of that nation are not only justified in killing Invaders and iverthrowing the state. They are in fact beholden to do so to protect thier families. It's pretty simple the Mafia is vastly more legtimate then the government in Rome.
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I mean, as shitty as the Italian government may be, they don't celebrate murdering kids, massive sex slavers, or terrorists. So yeah, much better government than the Mafia.
 
Abhorsen said:
I doubt the mafia would discriminate between the muslim gangs and just regular muslims though.

For a long time the political will to fight the mafia didn't exist. I'd rather that not become re-entrenched.


I mean, as shitty as the Italian government may be, they don't celebrate murdering kids, massive sex slavers, or terrorists. So yeah, much better government than the Mafia.
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Lol what? They cover for Muslims doing exactly that all the damn time. Seriously what's the difference between covering literally everything you listed up for "diversity" and the Mafia? Hell at least the mob will be honest instead of lying and screeching "diversity".
 
Organized crime arises when there is a demand for services which can’t conventionally be provided. Can’t get certain things because of the quarantine? The Mafia can provide those things. Can’t buy alcohol because of prohibition? The Mafia can sell you alcohol.

What the people of Europe really need now that they aren’t getting is protection from Muslim invaders and their own treasonous governments who aid and abet the invasion. If the Mafia really did stand up to Muslim invaders, they would be Europe’s unlikely heroes.

I also agree that the governments of Western Europe now are illegitimate, because they betray their people both in protecting Muslims who invade, murder, rape, and oppress - but they also aid and abet another conquering entity - the EU.

The Mafia might be bad, but compared to both the invaders and the traitors, they are by far a lesser evil, especially if they helped protect against the invasion.
 
ShieldWife said:
Organized crime arises when there is a demand for services which can’t conventionally be provided. Can’t get certain things because of the quarantine? The Mafia can provide those things. Can’t buy alcohol because of prohibition? The Mafia can sell you alcohol.

What the people of Europe really need now that they aren’t getting is protection from Muslim invaders and their own treasonous governments who aid and abet the invasion. If the Mafia really did stand up to Muslim invaders, they would be Europe’s unlikely heroes.

I also agree that the governments of Western Europe now are illegitimate, because they betray their people both in protecting Muslims who invade, murder, rape, and oppress - but they also aid and abet another conquering entity - the EU.

The Mafia might be bad, but compared to both the invaders and the traitors, they are by far a lesser evil, especially if they helped protect against the invasion.
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I wouldn't put them as a lesser evil. They have industrialized sex trafficking, and are simply better at it than muslim gangs. On top of that, murdering someone for only illegal immigration is disproportionate in the extreme, and a heinous act. Ultimately, evil is evil, and must be opposed, even if it means defending people you do not like.
 
Abhorsen said:
I wouldn't put them as a lesser evil. They have industrialized sex trafficking, and are simply better at it than muslim gangs. On top of that, murdering someone for only illegal immigration is disproportionate in the extreme, and a heinous act. Ultimately, evil is evil, and must be opposed, even if it means defending people you do not like.
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There are alternatives to being defended by the mafia

If people are willing to openly support the mafia just because they hit the islamic extremists back, then they should be willing to do it themselves, within reason of course

People will find a way to get guns or failing in that anything they can use in melee

They might get arrested for "islamophobia" upon defending themselves even with eye-spray, but they and others will live
 
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