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[Marduk]

Yeah, but they are going to learn, as they did with the Irish and the Italians, that once a new ethnic group settles into America, they tend to realize that while the Dems want them there to vote for them, they don't want them to actually prosper.

Then they start voting Republican more often.

On the other hand, as D strategists probably think, even back in their country, these same demographics are friendly enough to leftist politics already, considering who gets elected there. So yeah, they may like D immigration policy less with time, but the big question is, will they dislike it enough to start voting R?

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

Yeah, but they are going to learn, as they did with the Irish and the Italians, that once a new ethnic group settles into America, they tend to realize that while the Dems want them there to vote for them, they don't want them to actually prosper.

Then they start voting Republican more often.

Still going with that cope? You sound like a soy cuck whose wife settled for him after her party days were ended.

On the other hand, as D strategists probably think, even back in their country, these same demographics are friendly enough to leftist politics already, considering who gets elected there. So yeah, they may like D immigration policy less with time, but the big question is, will they dislike it enough to start voting R?

Exactly. The majority of these foreigners will never vote R because that would mean the free stuff stops. The few that do will be drowned out by them.

If the Conservatives want the USA to survive, then they will have to engage in forced emigration of these invasive population.

 

[PsihoKekec]

If the Conservatives want the USA to survive, then they will have to engage in forced emigration of these invasive population.

But that would mean that megacorporation donors can't keep the salaries low! Why do you hate corporatism free market?

 

[Cherico]

Still going with that cope? You sound like a soy cuck whose wife settled for him after her party days were ended.

Exactly. The majority of these foreigners will never vote R because that would mean the free stuff stops. The few that do will be drowned out by them.

If the Conservatives want the USA to survive, then they will have to engage in forced emigration of these invasive population.

The free stuff will stop.

You always end up running out of other peoples money sooner or later.

 

[Aldarion]

The free stuff will stop.

You always end up running out of other peoples money sooner or later.

That is just cope TBH.

1) Yes, you always end up running out of other people's money sooner or later. But by then, it is too late.
2) Marxists have repeatedly shown themselves willing to murder to get free stuff. So when they run out of other people's money, you get genocides.

 

[Cherico]

That is just cope TBH.

1) Yes, you always end up running out of other people's money sooner or later. But by then, it is too late.
2) Marxists have repeatedly shown themselves willing to murder to get free stuff. So when they run out of other people's money, you get genocides.

I still don't understand why people just don't kill the marxists.

I mean when you do a rational view of things if you have a choice between letting commies rule a country or just purging all the communists less people die if you kill the commies.

 

[Bear Ribs]

I still don't understand why people just don't kill the marxists.

I mean when you do a rational view of things if you have a choice between letting commies rule a country or just purging all the communists less people die if you kill the commies.

Those weren't real communism.

More seriously, have you ever heard the phrase "Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven"? That's partly the thinking.

Under a free system with high levels of social mobility, perhaps Tom is the richest but he may not stay on top long before Dick or Harry out-innovate him, sell a better product, and wind up above him in power. Under a communist system, Tom destroys the middle-class Dick and Harry belong to so they remain poor and never become competition. Even though things will suck for everybody, Tom will get to live like a god for forty years while everybody else is beneath him, instead of living like a god for five years and then living like a king for the rest of his life while other people are slightly richer. For some people, being number #1 is more important than their actual quality of life, and unfortunately because of that drive, those people are the ones who usually wind up the very richest and then promote systems that will ensure they stay #1 and everybody else's lives suck, because they measure success by how far above everybody else they are, not by how pleasant their own life is.

 

[DarthOne]

Germany: Afghan Muslim migrants grope and harass young girls ages 12-13 in swimming pool

Germany: Afghan Muslim migrants grope and harass young girls ages 12-13 in swimming pool

Why does this keep happening? Yes, sexual molestation happens all over. But we see Muslim migrants involved in this kind of story is seen on a not infrequent basis. Why? One reason may be because such treatment of infidel women is sanctioned in the Qur’an. In France, a Muslim quoted Qur’an while...

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Why does this keep happening? Yes, sexual molestation happens all over. But we see Muslim migrants involved in this kind of story is seen on a not infrequent basis. Why? One reason may be because such treatment of infidel women is sanctioned in the Qur'an.

In France, a Muslim quoted Qur'an while raping his victim. A survivor of a Muslim rape gang in the UK has said that her rapists would quote the Qur'an to her, and believed their actions justified by Islam. Thus it came as no surprise when Muslim migrants in France raped a girl and videoed the rape while praising Allah and invoking the Qur'an. In India, a Muslim gave a Qur'an and a prayer rug to the woman he was holding captive and repeatedly raping. And the victim of an Islamic State jihadi rapist recalled: "He told me that according to Islam he is allowed to rape an unbeliever. He said that by raping me, he is drawing closer to God…He said that raping me is his prayer to God." In India, a Muslim kidnapped and raped a 14-year-old Hindu girl, and forced her to read the Qur'an and Islamic prayers. In Pakistan, another Christian woman recounted that her rapist was also religious: "He threw me on the bed and started to rape me. He demanded I marry him and convert to Islam. I refused. I am not willing to deny Jesus and he said that if I would not agree he would kill me." Rapists demanded that another girl's family turn her over to them, claiming that she had recited the Islamic profession of faith during the rape and thus could not live among infidels.

The Qur'an teaches that Infidel women can be lawfully taken for sexual use (cf. its allowance for a man to take "captives of the right hand," 4:3, 4:24, 23:1-6, 33:50, 70:30). The Qur'an says: "O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful." (33:59) The implication there is that if women do not cover themselves adequately with their outer garments, they may be abused, and that such abuse would be justified.



"Abuse in swimming pool: Young men put girls under water and grope them," translated from "Übergriff In Schwimmbad: Junger Männer Fassen Mädchen Unter Wasser An Und Bedrängen Sie," by Laura Miemczyk, Tag 24, June 19, 2023 (thanks to Medforth):

Mönchengladbach – In a swimming pool in Mönchengladbach, there have been unsightly scenes: several young people are said to have groped and harassed a group of young girls there.
As a police spokesman announced on Monday, investigations against three young people (17) and two young adults (19) were initiated.
The group of young suspects is said to have pressed and harassed a group of six girls between the ages of twelve and 13 on Sunday afternoon in the Vitusbad in Mönchengladbach.
According to the girls' statements, they were suddenly groped several times from the group of young men while swimming and touched under water, as it was said.
"Anyone who did what the suspects did and how the individual girls were affected is the subject of the police investigation," said the police spokesman.
Five of the young men are of Afghan origin. One was from Romania, according to the investigators.
After the police started the facts, the girls were handed over to their careers. Meanwhile, the suspects were released after determining their identity and concluding the police measures.

EXPOSED: Western Females Groomed to Embrace Islamic Garb as Afghani Females Shot for Improper Attire (Video)

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Muslims have launched a sharia propaganda campaign aimed at veiling non-Muslim western girls using TikTok.
After the Taliban seized control of Afghanistan and declared they would reinstate Sharia (Islamic law), a group of brave women took to the streets of Kabul to demand that their rights to education, work, and political participation be protected. The Afghani women are terrified that the Taliban will strip them of the progress made in the last 20 years.
While the woman led their protest, reports surfaced that Taliban men gunned down a woman in a small Afghan province for not wearing her proper sharia burqa attire.

Many Aghani women reverted to their traditional attire and refrained from wearing Westernized clothing once the Taliban took over Afghanistan. Historically, the Taliban has required women to wear full burqas, so their entire body was covered, including a mesh over their eyes. In addition, under Islamic law, it is unlawful for women to leave the house with their faces unveiled.

Fearing attacks by the Taliban, stores around the city of Kabul quickly erased all traces of female advertisement images,

Women under Sharia and Taliban rule are not to be without guardianship and permission, from her father to her husband or the other male family members (if she is widowed or divorced). Many news outlets are reporting that young females are already being forced to marry Taliban fighters.

Stonings, honor killings, floggings, and even the mutilation of female genitalia are sporadically employed in Afghanistan to keep women in their place.

While brave Afghani women are protesting for their rights and freedoms, German and Austrian girls are being targeted and brainwashed by Muslims into thinking Islamic coverings are empowering and make them more beautiful.

Muslims have launched a sharia propaganda campaign aimed at veiling non-Muslim western girls using TikTok. The video-sharing platform has already been under scrutiny for its illegal use of data about children and ties to the Chinese government. Young women in German and Austrian cities are approached by Muslims who offer to "restyle" them with Hijabs and Islamic body coverings. Muslims film the young western girl's "hijabi transformations" then post them on their TikTok channel. The channel is linked to an online Hijab store.

The videos are inundated with comments by hundreds or thousands of what appear to be Muslim men, praising the girls for their beautiful Islamic transformation. The videos are being celebrated among radical Muslim circles.

This embracement and glamorization of Islamic headwear and bodywear are helping to advances sharia in Germany, Austria, and the West. Cultural jihad is the attempt to change and subvert Western culture from within, or more simply put: to Islamize it. Sharia fashionwear is an example of a cultural and civilizational jihad   and the submission of Western non-Muslim women to that jihad.

As the Islamic scholar, Dr. Bill Warner explains, "most people see the hijab as religious or cultural, but the hijab is a symbol of the Sharia and has a very political meaning." Thus, the hijab in the west is not about modesty or fashion but a hate symbol and a commitment to Sharia:

To learn more about the dangerous Hijabi Transformation campaign, read the following article originally posted at Exxpress and has since been translated by RAIR Foundation USA.

"Hijab Transformation": New TikTok Trend Promotes Veiling to Girls
by Anna Dobler

A new trend on the video platform TikTok is intended to make the headscarf palatable to girls in Germany and Austria. For this, young women are "restyled" with a hijab in a pedestrian zone. The videos are very popular in radical Muslim circles.
Currently, videos under the title "Hijab Transformation" are storming the TikTok charts and are seen and shared by hundreds of thousands – but the message is questionable. The short clips, which at least at first glance appear to be advertisements for a Frankfurt-based merchant in hijabs, are also being eagerly circulated in radical Muslim circles.

They always follow the same pattern: a friendly voice approaches young, usually lightly dressed women on the street and asks if they would like to try out a headscarf. Then the "hijab transformation" takes place in a before-and-after styling show manner. The young women then look at the result in the mirror with complete enthusiasm. Not only is their hair covered, but their shoulders and décolleté as well. They are assured that the hijab looks very good on them. And in the comments, hundreds of male users confirm how "much prettier" the girls are after the transformation.

The clips are shared thousands of times and have now even conquered the TikTok charts. But, unfortunately, this content is also spread by supporters of political Islam, along with the message that young women are now much more attractive to men: "Wallah, so pretty," floods the comment section in many languages.

It is questionable if all the videos are authentic. The scenes seem staged. However, this isn't unusual on TikTok. The problem is that the platform is particularly popular with children and young people who have not yet acquired sufficient media skills to judge the authenticity of the content.

Islamic messages on the rise on TikTok

Like no other religious community, Islam has succeeded in recruiting followers on TikTok in German-speaking countries. In addition to completely innocuous videos that educate people about the Muslim faith, more radical content can be found there time and again. It is packaged in a way that appeals to young people. For example, teenagers tell how they have found a supposedly better life thanks to the Koran. In addition, videos often pop up in the charts that address the issue of forced marriage in a positive light.

Children come into contact with the content by chance

Many parents don't have TikTok on their radar and don't know exactly what content their children are watching there. As a rule, "trending videos" with many positive reactions are recommended, including the "Hijab Transformation" clips. In plain English, this means that children come into contact with the content by chance.

Last year, TikTok was the most downloaded app worldwide. It is believed to have more than one billion users worldwide.

The videos that are packaged to young people feature teenagers preaching how much better their life is thanks to the Qur'an. Video also addresses the positiveness of forced marriages.

 

[Aldarion]

I still don't understand why people just don't kill the marxists.

I mean when you do a rational view of things if you have a choice between letting commies rule a country or just purging all the communists less people die if you kill the commies.

Many people don't understand that it is the Marxists that are the problem. Worse, humans are by nature lazy and would rather that their problems solve themselves - which is precisely the dream Marxists are peddling. It is nice to hear that you are perfect and it is only everybody else's fault, after all.

We are a culture of infantile morons.

 

[PsihoKekec]

 

[DarthOne]

One of these days I’m going to put my fist through a wall or something out of sheer frustration.

 

[Marduk]

I think that is an inaccurate and underestimating way to see the problem, of which this is one symptom. This is worse than a conspiracy, this is a malicious meme virus, a socio-cultural disaster.
Namely, a large part of western public, and elites in particular, subscribe to a certain kind of left-liberal culture, by standards of which people engaging in low to mid level underclass crimes are, in a very leftist way, to be pitied rather than punished, and ensuring their physical safety gets priority over preventing said crime, even to a point of indirectly aiding and abetting the crime, not to even think of such far right ideas as in fact actively threatening the physical safety of such criminals to deter them.

That's just one of many practical implementations of this particular morality, culture, worldview. For others, see the same people's policy towards riots, theft, drug abuse, mentally ill, squatters and so on, illegal immigration being just one of many areas to which this thinking is consistently applied to. Don't you see a pattern, a pattern highly resembling sometimes brought up in discussion of some of these examples fictional comparisons like Camp of Saints and Demolition Man?

 

[TheRejectionist]

I still don't understand why people just don't kill the marxists.

You will not be surprised that is a growing sentiment in Italy (likely Brazil as well? Maybe @Sobek and @gral can confirm it) it would be like crossing the Rubicon only they are afraid of not being able to pull a Caesar moment. Not to mention that while the typical Euro-american leftist does look like a zombie, most regular human being do not see them as such.

I mean when you do a rational view of things if you have a choice between letting commies rule a country or just purging all the communists less people die if you kill the commies.

While going Pinochet mode might be enticing to many, how many culturally conservative people or hell left-hating individuals will join? They are afraid of loosing what little they have and are afraid of getting their hands dirty and the consecutive escalation that it would entail.
Look at any revolt , revolution and counter-revolution in history. Those that failed were because they were fewer in number a lot of the times and those who succeeded is because they had no longer anything to loose.

Maybe it is a black pill, but I am of the idea that you really need nothing to lose if you want to overthrow individuals like Schwab and their Euro-American pawns.

 

[King Arts]

Germany: Afghan Muslim migrants grope and harass young girls ages 12-13 in swimming pool

Germany: Afghan Muslim migrants grope and harass young girls ages 12-13 in swimming pool

Why does this keep happening? Yes, sexual molestation happens all over. But we see Muslim migrants involved in this kind of story is seen on a not infrequent basis. Why? One reason may be because such treatment of infidel women is sanctioned in the Qur’an. In France, a Muslim quoted Qur’an while...

www.jihadwatch.org

EXPOSED: Western Females Groomed to Embrace Islamic Garb as Afghani Females Shot for Improper Attire (Video)

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Be careful with some sites. Obviously the Afghan Muslim who is a rapist deserves to die, and should never have been brought into the nation in the first place. However I don't trust sites like RAIR. I really don't trust any group that harks on "Judeo Christian" values.

RAIR Foundation USA (Rise Align Ignite Reclaim) is a grassroots activist organization comprised of everyday Americans leading a movement to reclaim our Republic from the network of individuals and organizations waging war on Americans, our Constitution, our borders and our Judeo-Christian values.

To me they seem like the boomer cons or neo con groups those who want us to be pro establishment right.

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The demonstration not only highlighted concerns about the direction of Catholic education but also emphasized the growing collaboration between Christian and Muslim communities to stop radical gender theory and the sexualization of children in schools. Muslim are fighting to protect their children's upbringing based on their Islamic values and laws. However, we must exercise caution. While conservatives currently align with Muslims on issues like the sexualization of children and LGBTQ+ agendas in schools, there are potentially wider implications. This alliance could pose a threat to other religions, women, and non-Muslims, risking the erosion of their rights and freedoms. The accumulation of power in this alliance may ultimately serve the goal of imposing Sharia law in Western nations.

It's stuff like this, Christians should support Christian interests. If they happen to align with Muslims thats fine, if they are against Muslims then we go against Muslims. But these guys just harp on "muh secular values" "muh other religions, muh women"

Honestly Sharia law would be terrible, but not as terrible as Globohomo. We should remember that while the hijab is now Muslim veils like it were not always. It's only with the rise of secularism that it stopped in the west.

Head covering for Christian women - Wikipedia

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Obviously we should protect Christian women from being converted to other faiths. But that is easily done by having them not interact with Muslim, Jewish, atheist, or Buddhist men or at the very least limit their interactions as much as possible. But if Muslims manage to convert atheists thats great. While their souls might not be saved a Muslim is much better than an atheist on multiple fronts.

 

[Marduk]

Be careful with some sites. Obviously the Afghan Muslim who is a rapist deserves to die, and should never have been brought into the nation in the first place. However I don't trust sites like RAIR. I really don't trust any group that harks on "Judeo Christian" values.



To me they seem like the boomer cons or neo con groups those who want us to be pro establishment right.

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It's stuff like this, Christians should support Christian interests. If they happen to align with Muslims thats fine, if they are against Muslims then we go against Muslims. But these guys just harp on "muh secular values" "muh other religions, muh women"

Honestly Sharia law would be terrible, but not as terrible as Globohomo. We should remember that while the hijab is now Muslim veils like it were not always. It's only with the rise of secularism that it stopped in the west.

Head covering for Christian women - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Obviously we should protect Christian women from being converted to other faiths. But that is easily done by having them not interact with Muslim, Jewish, atheist, or Buddhist men or at the very least limit their interactions as much as possible. But if Muslims manage to convert atheists thats great. While their souls might not be saved a Muslim is much better than an atheist on multiple fronts.

Great job reminding everyone of the divisions on the right. If you haven't noticed, most of the right wingers around, on this forum and in general, are some degree of "secularist", and as such your arguments, however sensible may they be from your direction of "better Sharia than secularism" are inherently unconvincing to them.

As i see it, the progressive movement is a parasite that feeds on the West, and exclusively on it. When it dies in the West, regardless of when, why, and by whose hand, it will be dead.
The Islamic civilization, on the other hand, was a pain in the ass to the West long before globohomo and its immigration obsession, and chances are it will remain so afterwards.

So stop whining about boomer cons and simping for millenia old enemies of our civilization.
I hope you know that the brand of ideology you represent is a fringe minority not only in the West in general, but even among the right specifically, and so you can go nowhere without compromises with other factions of the right...

 

[King Arts]

Great job reminding everyone of the divisions on the right. If you haven't noticed, most of the right wingers around, on this forum and in general, are some degree of "secularist", and as such your arguments, however sensible may they be from your direction of "better Sharia than secularism" are inherently unconvincing to them.

As i see it, the progressive movement is a parasite that feeds on the West, and exclusively on it. When it dies in the West, regardless of when, why, and by whose hand, it will be dead.
The Islamic civilization, on the other hand, was a pain in the ass to the West long before globohomo and its immigration obsession, and chances are it will remain so afterwards.

So stop whining about boomer cons and simping for millenia old enemies of our civilization.
I hope you know that the brand of ideology you represent is a fringe minority not only in the West in general, but even among the right specifically, and so you can go nowhere without compromises with other factions of the right...

Umm the boomercons are the ones trying to weaken the right by sabotaging a potential alliance. They are as bad as the racists honestly.

Also it's funny you think that globohomo is a parasite on western civilization. It's not, at this point it is the end result of western civilization. Your ideas are not western civilization. The conservative position has not been part of western civilization since at the latest the 60's. But it's possible it was lost way earlier in the enlightenment. The point I'm saying is why do you think you will win against the wokeists? People like you have done nothing but lose again and again, from women voting in the early 1900's, to women getting jobs in the 40's, to the sexual revolution with abortion, and no fault divorce and all else. Then the gay rights movement started.

From what I can see you will just bow down and accept tranny kids while beating your chest at the next thing.

 

[Marduk]

Umm the boomercons are the ones trying to weaken the right by sabotaging a potential alliance. They are as bad as the racists honestly.

What fucking potential alliance? You are delusional, this is about as much as the "potential alliance" the left and islamists had in Iran. We on the right aspire to be smarter than the leftists and learn from history, i hope.

Also it's funny you think that globohomo is a parasite on western civilization. It's not, at this point it is the end result of western civilization. Your ideas are not western civilization. The conservative position has not been part of western civilization since at the latest the 60's. But it's possible it was lost way earlier in the enlightenment. The point I'm saying is why do you think you will win against the wokeists? People like you have done nothing but lose again and again, from women voting in the early 1900's, to women getting jobs in the 40's, to the sexual revolution with abortion, and no fault divorce and all else. Then the gay rights movement started.

From what I can see you will just bow down and accept tranny kids while beating your chest at the next thing.

If you see that, i suggest cutting down on drugs.
What have theocracy fanboys done to win against the wokeists? If anything, you provide them with political entertainment if nothing else, genuinely trying to fit the ridiculous mold of the boogeyman they imagine their enemies to be. If that was the secret recipe for victory against them, they would be keeping it locked in a safe and dumped it into the Mariana Trench.

Enlightenment, seriously? Without that, we would still be staring down the fucking Ottoman Empire.

 

[King Arts]

What fucking potential alliance? You are delusional, this is about as much as the "potential alliance" the left and islamists had in Iran. We on the right aspire to be smarter than the leftists and learn from history, i hope.

I said a potential alliance. Both real Muslims and real Christian oppose sodomy. We would be voting for similar policies and thus our representatives would be working together to pass laws we both support. Also what alliance between the left and Islamists in Iran?

Also if you want to be smart and learn from history look to see how the left and progressives have kept winning while your conservatives kept losing.

If you see that, i suggest cutting down on drugs.
What have theocracy fanboys done to win against the wokeists? If anything, you provide them with political entertainment if nothing else, genuinely trying to fit the ridiculous mold of the boogeyman they imagine their enemies to be. If that was the secret recipe for victory against them, they would be keeping it locked in a safe and dumped it into the Mariana Trench.

Enlightenment, seriously? Without that, we would still be staring down the fucking Ottoman Empire.

For 1500 years "theocrats" have stopped atheism and sodomy. You do know that sodomy and trannis were around in the times of Rome and they weren't put down like when Christians came in. It was the reformation which weakened political Christianity(because of Catholic corruption) and which led to the Enlightenment.

Tell me if theocracy can't stop wokeists why do the Islamists not have this problem? They kept to the tradition and faith of their ancestors while Westernerns became degenerates.

Also no the enlightenment did not weaken the Ottomans. By the 1700's which was the start of the enlightenment the Turks were already the sick man of Europe. Your rationalism and secularism did nothing to fight them. What stopped them from conquering more was Christian alliances then just waiting for the cycle of empires to cause them to fall.

 

[DarthOne]

Be careful with some sites. Obviously the Afghan Muslim who is a rapist deserves to die, and should never have been brought into the nation in the first place. However I don't trust sites like RAIR. I really don't trust any group that harks on "Judeo Christian" values.



To me they seem like the boomer cons or neo con groups those who want us to be pro establishment right.

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It's stuff like this, Christians should support Christian interests. If they happen to align with Muslims thats fine, if they are against Muslims then we go against Muslims. But these guys just harp on "muh secular values" "muh other religions, muh women"

Honestly Sharia law would be terrible, but not as terrible as Globohomo. We should remember that while the hijab is now Muslim veils like it were not always. It's only with the rise of secularism that it stopped in the west.

Head covering for Christian women - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Obviously we should protect Christian women from being converted to other faiths. But that is easily done by having them not interact with Muslim, Jewish, atheist, or Buddhist men or at the very least limit their interactions as much as possible. But if Muslims manage to convert atheists thats great. While their souls might not be saved a Muslim is much better than an atheist on multiple fronts.

Noted for future reference and good catch.

 

[Marduk]

I said a potential alliance. Both real Muslims and real Christian oppose sodomy. We would be voting for similar policies and thus our representatives would be working together to pass laws we both support. Also what alliance between the left and Islamists in Iran?

So? Even Chicoms and Norks are not rainbow flag folk compliant, but i would not go as far as consider them "potential allies" on that basis. For them those are other people's problems, and weaknesses if anything.
As for the history between Iranian revolution and leftists:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0308514042000329351?journalCode=reso20

Also if you want to be smart and learn from history look to see how the left and progressives have kept winning while your conservatives kept losing.

They lost the Soviet Union and WP. That's a measurable win.

For 1500 years "theocrats" have stopped atheism and sodomy.

Hahaha. One is self-evidently incompatible with them, the other... why doesn't Japan and even fucking communist China have gay marriage? They are secular, if not atheistic, and totally lack Christian theocrats.

You do know that sodomy and trannis were around in the times of Rome and they weren't put down like when Christians came in. It was the reformation which weakened political Christianity(because of Catholic corruption) and which led to the Enlightenment.

This is on the level of simping for islamists because they oppose the rainbow agenda even harder than Christians.
They aren't special in that, and they have other debilitating faults.

Tell me if theocracy can't stop wokeists why do the Islamists not have this problem? They kept to the tradition and faith of their ancestors while Westernerns became degenerates.

Juche also stops wokeists. And Islamists. There are exactly zero of both where Juche rules. But let's not beat around the bush, it's still not a desirable alternative.

So instead of the advertising talk, better do something more interesting and try explaining why theocrats cannot come up with an offer desirable to a big enough amount of westerners in any region since a long time.

Also no the enlightenment did not weaken the Ottomans. By the 1700's which was the start of the enlightenment the Turks were already the sick man of Europe. Your rationalism and secularism did nothing to fight them. What stopped them from conquering more was Christian alliances then just waiting for the cycle of empires to cause them to fall.

Yes, it was the cycle of empires, not the economic and military advantages of the West related to the enlightenment