If you could create five new countries in the world, which ones would you make?

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WolfBear

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If you could create five new countries in the world, which ones would you make? (FWIW, this question could belong either here or in the ASB section since you need ASBs to actually give you that kind of power.)

As for me, and not in any particular order:

-Scotland
-Catalonia
-Palestine (along borders similar to those of the 2003 Geneva Initiative)
-Kurdistan
-Nagorno-Karabakh (the last one technically already exists, but I'd actually make its independence universally recognized)
 
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ATP

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WolfBear said:
If you could create five new countries in the world, which ones would you make? (FWIW, this question could belong either here or in the ASB section since you need ASBs to actually give you that kind of power.)

As for me, and not in any particular order:

-Scotland
-Catalonia
-Palestine (along borders similar to those of the 2003 Geneva Initiative)
-Kurdistan
-Nagorno-Karabakh (the last one technically already exists, but I'd actually make its independence universally recognized)
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Bavaria,Saxony and 3 other free german states.So Berlin elites could not start WW3.
 
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Atarlost

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@ATP If the Berlin elites are capable of starting WW3 now splitting Germany up won't change that.

Hippiestan (Hippiestan is Sacramento and the California coast from LA to San Francisco.)
Yuppiestan (Yuppiestan is the big multi-state urban area around New York City and New Jersey including Martha's Vinyard.)
Manchuria
Quebec
Sassanid Empire

Splitting off the largest concentrations of leftists off from America saves the nation. Splitting Manchuria off from the PRC cripples the nation which may allow the RoC the opportunity to one day reclaim it. Splitting Quebec off from Canada removes a political party that has no interest in the good of Canada which hopefully saves the nation. And the Sassanid Empire replaces Iran, which is a persistent obstacle to middle eastern peace and is presently supplying Russia with weapons for use against Ukraine.
 
bintananth

bintananth

behind a desk
Hmm ...

#1 Euskadi (Basque Region of Spain + France)
#2 Catalonia
#3 Kurdistan

Then some toss-ups for #4-5:
- Hannover (Lower Saxony + Hamburg)
- Aquitaine (🖕France)
- Manchuria
- Hong Kong
- Macao
- Puerto Rico
- unfuck some parts of Africa (so many to choose from)

I'm leaning towards "unfuck some parts of Africa" but slapping Congress with an independent Puerto Rico is tempting.
 
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WolfBear

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ATP said:
Bavaria,Saxony and 3 other free german states.So Berlin elites could not start WW3.
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They won't start WWIII in any case. Though Germany has been behaving like a little shit for being too soft on Russia before this year's invasion. I wouldn't have minded Nord Stream 2 if it was done in exchange for some Russian concessions, such as Russian consent for Ukraine to enter both the EU and NATO.

Atarlost said:
@ATP If the Berlin elites are capable of starting WW3 now splitting Germany up won't change that.

Hippiestan (Hippiestan is Sacramento and the California coast from LA to San Francisco.)
Yuppiestan (Yuppiestan is the big multi-state urban area around New York City and New Jersey including Martha's Vinyard.)
Manchuria
Quebec
Sassanid Empire

Splitting off the largest concentrations of leftists off from America saves the nation. Splitting Manchuria off from the PRC cripples the nation which may allow the RoC the opportunity to one day reclaim it. Splitting Quebec off from Canada removes a political party that has no interest in the good of Canada which hopefully saves the nation. And the Sassanid Empire replaces Iran, which is a persistent obstacle to middle eastern peace and is presently supplying Russia with weapons for use against Ukraine.
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Manchurians are now overwhelmingly Han Chinese.

bintananth said:
Hmm ...

#1 Euskadi (Basque Region of Spain + France)
#2 Catalonia
#3 Kurdistan

Then some toss-ups for #4-5:
- Hannover (Lower Saxony + Hamburg)
- Aquitaine (🖕France)
- Manchuria
- Hong Kong
- Macao
- Puerto Rico
- unfuck some parts of Africa (so many to choose from)

I'm leaning towards "unfuck some parts of Africa" but slapping Congress with an independent Puerto Rico is tempting.
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Hong Kong is actually a pretty good one. But this would piss China off to no end!
 
Jormungandr

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
Founder
Scotland is already a country: it's in a union with four others to make up the UK.

Plus, Scotland has become so dependent on the UK over so many centuries that Scottish independence would mean the country would be bankrupt and socially collapsing within three--six months.

That's why I, and sane Scottish people, laugh at Sturgeon and the rest of the mentally-deficient Scottish Independence Brigade.

As for countries? Hmm, a lot of Spanish provinces, a good few once countries themselves, want to be independent again. Basque, Catalonia, et cetera.

Tibet is already a country, but it's under Chinese occupation.
 
TheRomanSlayer

TheRomanSlayer

Unipolarity is for Subhuman Trogdolytes
1) Cascadia
2) Western Canadian Republic (minus BC)
3) Aztlan
4) Hawaii
5) Quebec

Alternatively, we could also form several new entities in North America like this:

1) Laurentian State, consisting of southern Ontario, southern Quebec, New England region and New York.

2) Coastal California, from Silicon Valley to the border with San Diego.

3) Coastal Washington State and Oregon, to merge with Vancouver, BC and Vancouver Island would form an alternate Cascadia, leaving the eastern half of WA and OR that is east of the Cascade Mountains to join Idaho.

4) Middle Canada, or the parts that aren’t infected by woke ideology could join the unaffected parts of the US to form a larger North American state that is woke free.
 
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ATP

Well-known member
Atarlost said:
@ATP If the Berlin elites are capable of starting WW3 now splitting Germany up won't change that.

Hippiestan (Hippiestan is Sacramento and the California coast from LA to San Francisco.)
Yuppiestan (Yuppiestan is the big multi-state urban area around New York City and New Jersey including Martha's Vinyard.)
Manchuria
Quebec
Sassanid Empire

Splitting off the largest concentrations of leftists off from America saves the nation. Splitting Manchuria off from the PRC cripples the nation which may allow the RoC the opportunity to one day reclaim it. Splitting Quebec off from Canada removes a political party that has no interest in the good of Canada which hopefully saves the nation. And the Sassanid Empire replaces Iran, which is a persistent obstacle to middle eastern peace and is presently supplying Russia with weapons for use against Ukraine.
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1.Yes,it would change things.Berlin without Bavaria would not have money for starting anything,and without other states lack manpower,too.
2.Hippiestan - OK
3.Yuppistan - OK
4.Manchuria - from at least 100 years Han live there.Too late for that
5.Quebec - protestants should never take it,but now,after 1968 revolution,making it state have no sense.They are doomed no matter if they would be independent,or not.
But,if England gave it to french emigrants after 1789....it would worked.
6.Sassanid Empire - Iran do not occupy palestinian lands,so they are not obstacle to peace.And,for Ukraine blame germans and USA.First payed for putin army and trained them,second refused to deliver tanks and modern planes.
 
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Atarlost

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WolfBear said:
Manchurians are now overwhelmingly Han Chinese.
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That's the point. I would split the Han Chinese into two mutually antagonistic camps. They'd have different strongmen in charge who will each want to keep control of their hunk of China and take control of the other guy's hunk of China. Both nations will be much weaker than unified China. Breaking off non-Han Chinese occupied areas would not seriously weaken China.

ATP said:
6.Sassanid Empire - Iran do not occupy palestinian lands,so they are not obstacle to peace.
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The palestinians are a lie. They're a lie that's been around for more than a generation so some of them have delusions of having a real heritage, but they were never anything but a power grab by the mufti of Jerusalem and later an excuse to not recognize the state of Israel. Ethnically and culturally they're either bog standard Sunni Arabs (ie. Jordanians given that's the closest ethnically matching nation) or Egyptians. The ones that have a distinct ethnic identity are the ones who stuck around and absorbed elements of European culture from their new neighbors (ie. Isreali Arabs).

Iran, meanwhile, has been stirring up shit with not just the Jews but also the Sunnis since the Shah was deposed.
 
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ATP

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Atarlost said:
That's the point. I would split the Han Chinese into two mutually antagonistic camps. They'd have different strongmen in charge who will each want to keep control of their hunk of China and take control of the other guy's hunk of China. Both nations will be much weaker than unified China. Breaking off non-Han Chinese occupied areas would not seriously weaken China.


The palestinians are a lie. They're a lie that's been around for more than a generation so some of them have delusions of having a real heritage, but they were never anything but a power grab by the mufti of Jerusalem and later an excuse to not recognize the state of Israel. Ethnically and culturally they're either bog standard Sunni Arabs (ie. Jordanians given that's the closest ethnically matching nation) or Egyptians. The ones that have a distinct ethnic identity are the ones who stuck around and absorbed elements of European culture from their new neighbors (ie. Isreali Arabs).

Iran, meanwhile, has been stirring up shit with not just the Jews but also the Sunnis since the Shah was deposed.
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1.seems legit
2.Thanks to DNA,we knew that the same population lived there from bronze age to 1948,when aszkenazi "jews" kicked them out.
They only changed religions - pagans,jewssish,pagans again,christians and now muslims.
3.Izrael trained shah secret police which tortured muslims - Iran have reasons to retaliate.
 
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