I want to get a gaming PC but I know nothing about them, advice thread

Iconoclast

Perpetually Angry
Obozny
no they don't. That has never been true.
Well, maybe not so much lately, since OEMs have raised their prices. Here's a rig that's a few hundred cheaper than what I configured, with near-comparable performance:


A few years ago, a prebuilt that cost about $2200 would have cost about $3000 if you bought the parts at full retail. Right now? I have no idea.
 

Vyor

My influence grows!
Well, maybe not so much lately, since OEMs have raised their prices. Here's a rig that's a few hundred cheaper than what I configured, with near-comparable performance:


A few years ago, a prebuilt that cost about $2200 would have cost about $3000 if you bought the parts at full retail. Right now? I have no idea.

11th gen locked i5, 16 gigs of DDR4, 500gb SSD, and a 3060ti for almost 1200 dollars?

Boom, 1200 dollars. 4x the storage, 2x the ram, better GPU, infinitely faster CPU, better CPU cooling, better motherboard, better power supply, better case.

And you can cut a good amount of the price off by going with the stock cooler, dropping the SSD to a 1tb one, going to a cheaper motherboard, a cheaper case, and cheaper RAM. And it would still be better in most every way than that piece of shit prebuilt.
 

Iconoclast

Perpetually Angry
Obozny
11th gen locked i5, 16 gigs of DDR4, 500gb SSD, and a 3060ti for almost 1200 dollars?

Boom, 1200 dollars. 4x the storage, 2x the ram, better GPU, infinitely faster CPU, better CPU cooling, better motherboard, better power supply, better case.

And you can cut a good amount of the price off by going with the stock cooler, dropping the SSD to a 1tb one, going to a cheaper motherboard, a cheaper case, and cheaper RAM. And it would still be better in most every way than that piece of shit prebuilt.
I think at that price point, I'd do something more like this:


Wait a minute...


Wow, that's surprising.
 

Vyor

My influence grows!
I think at that price point, I'd do something more like this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j7Yjmr

The 12600k is still slower for games than the 7600 and is on an, effectively, dead end platform. The only better option is 13th gen and that just adds more power draw, clockspeed, and e-cores. The zen board is going to get, at least, zen5 sometime next year.


It is indeed surprising that Userbenchmark would be somewhat honest there.


This is a GPU that matches the 3070 when the 3070 isn't running out of VRAM, which it's doing rather often these days, so of course it's going to kick the shit out of a 3060.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
I built an AMD computer in 2011 and it went strong for a decade before it really started to show its age. I can't say that about either of the Dell computers I got before I built it.

Completely unrelated, but what is it with everything having obnoxiously bright LEDs on them these days? I legit miss the days when the only lights a computer really had were some dim green ones for the power and to show when the HDD was active.
 

Typhonis

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The computer I have now, and got in 2015 is a prebuilt and has lasted 8 years so far. Any opinions on Mini PCs?
 

ThatZenoGuy

Zealous Evolutionary Nano Organism
Comrade
The computer I have now, and got in 2015 is a prebuilt and has lasted 8 years so far. Any opinions on Mini PCs?
Why get a mini PC? If you want something beefy, get something big.
If you want something portable, get a laptop.
 

Typhonis

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Well got my new PC. My old headphones are not compatible so need to get a new set. Other than that everything is going well. Had a bunch of stuff saved on an external HDD. Got it plugged in and everything is golden.
Just need to download a few things.
 

Typhonis

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I was using cordless ones and they would not connect. Why, I have no idea. But I'm getting some new ones in Monday.
 

Typhonis

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Yeah, oh well. So far so good. Working like a charm and is fairly quiet. I'm still fiddling around with it. Got a new keyboard and mouse. They old ones had been acting up so...got rid of them.
 

Jormungandr

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I built an AMD computer in 2011 and it went strong for a decade before it really started to show its age. I can't say that about either of the Dell computers I got before I built it.

Completely unrelated, but what is it with everything having obnoxiously bright LEDs on them these days? I legit miss the days when the only lights a computer really had were some dim green ones for the power and to show when the HDD was active.
Same.

I was rocking a Phenom II Black Edition with 12GB of RAM on an OEM Foxconn motherboard for over a decade (2010/11 until last year). It was beginning to show its age though, especially when Adobe did their absolutely retarded "this processor is no longer supported by our apps" move (since businesses are still using old processors, even aging Xeons from the second-hand market, in their rigs, and Adobe basically fucked them all over).

I snagged a deal on a second-hand Ryzen 3600 (guy bought it, but then was gifted a better processor by family, so he eBay'd his first), bought a decent motherboard (Tomahawk Max II).

Thing which cost me the most was the RAM: 32GB of DDR4 in 2x16 sticks.

The real problem I have is my graphics card: it's a Radeon HD 5450... from 2010. :( It's 13 goddamn years old now.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
What a coincidence, I also have a Phenom II. I have 16 GB on an ASUS MB, though. New one is also an ASUS with a Ryzen 5 3600, and 124 GB or RAM (cost me as much as the board and the processor). I think the graphics card I got is kind of mid-tier, though, but it's at least better than what I got on the old one. I'm hoping I can upgrade later like I did with my last one. That one cost a lot less, though, as it only cost about $700. My card by itself was almost that much this time around. 😵
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
Founder
What a coincidence, I also have a Phenom II. I have 16 GB on an ASUS MB, though. New one is also an ASUS with a Ryzen 5 3600, and 124 GB or RAM (cost me as much as the board and the processor). I think the graphics card I got is kind of mid-tier, though, but it's at least better than what I got on the old one. I'm hoping I can upgrade later like I did with my last one. That one cost a lot less, though, as it only cost about $700. My card by itself was almost that much this time around. 😵
Phenoms were the GOAT, especially since the FX successor line could, well, act as makeshift BBQs with how hot they ran. :) They were reliable, stable, and if you had a BE, you could overclock the fuck out of them (like I did) so they punched well above their weight class.

Graphics cards have become so complicated that I have no idea what's a good bargain and what's not, or even what cards are modern. I'll need to upgrade soon obviously, but I'm as lost as a nun in a strip club. :(
 

ThatZenoGuy

Zealous Evolutionary Nano Organism
Comrade
I snagged a deal on a second-hand Ryzen 3600 (guy bought it, but then was gifted a better processor by family, so he eBay'd his first), bought a decent motherboard (Tomahawk Max II).
Eyyyyyyyyyyyyy! A fellow 3600 bro! I slapped a big fuckoff cooler onto mine, lets her turbo-mode forever without overheating.
 

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