The Americas I moved back in with my parents 3 years ago thinking it would be temporary. I'm still there, and I'm glad for the time with them.

[Bear Ribs]

The years of our life are seventy,
or even by reason of strength eighty;
yet their span is but toil and trouble;
they are soon gone, and we fly away.
-Psalm 90:10, by Moses

 

[Free-Stater 101]

Misleading average.

The reason why the average is in the 30s is due to high infant and childhood mortality, but if you made it to 18 you had a pretty decent chance of making it to your 60s.

Slightly misleading but typhoid, smallpox and a myriad of other diseases which killed people in the prime of life prior to the invention antibiotics did kill a lot of people before reaching their fifties.

Just because you can live a long time doesn't mean you will.

 

[Grant Us Eyes]

In short men this era aren't stupid or un masculine for staying with their parents. in fact to the contrary is shows a good deal of family orientation, and in most cases them staying is a sign of social awareness and their own limitations in the face of an increasingly penalizing society/economy that makes the price of living extravagant both intentionally and unintentionally due to market forces.

I agree that it's a sensible option.

Women are the final adjudicator, however. And many women are still of the opinion that a man living with his parents isn't a man worth dating, and is a massive red flag. Simple as.

When that's no longer the case, then we'll have seen the culture shift.

 

[Terthna]

I agree that it's a sensible option.

Women are the final adjudicator, however. And many women are still of the opinion that a man living with his parents isn't a man worth dating, and is a massive red flag. Simple as.

When that's no longer the case, then we'll have seen the culture shift.

Women who are of that opinion themselves aren't worth dating.

 

[colorles]

I agree that it's a sensible option.

Women are the final adjudicator, however. And many women are still of the opinion that a man living with his parents isn't a man worth dating, and is a massive red flag. Simple as.

When that's no longer the case, then we'll have seen the culture shift.

a man that lives with and works for his immediate family - parents, and siblings - is a man whose loyalty and resources stay in said family

females want a man's loyalty and resources to flow to her and, by extension, the children you will have with her.

there is no such thing as a girl that is into a man - and I mean really into said man - that doesn't want to have his children. it is what they are biologically designed to crave. and females need support and resources - from either said man or the state via taxes - in order to do this

as a man you have to choose where you loyalty and resources go to. and it doesn't matter how much resources you have, what your assets are, etc. with the state meddling in peoples social lives, a botched relationship can see a man, via the power of the state, drained of much of his assets and resources. ergo, more and more men are not taking the risk of seeing their immediate families suffer, because said men couldn't keep it in their pants

balancing immediate family with starting a new family of your own, would be very easy if the state didn't stick it's head in everybodies affairs...



but as to the opening post subject matter? well we all know there is a double standard via gender with men being shamed for living at home...but girls generally get a free pass. although i will say the only men being shamed for living at home are the men that don't work or provide anything to the family. you know, the NEET types. living in a multi-generational family home where every member of the family contributes to the well being of the family is the most sure way to build multi-generational stability and wealth

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

there is no such thing as a girl that is into a man - and I mean really into said man - that doesn't want to have his children. it is what they are biologically designed to crave. and females need support and resources - from either said man or the state via taxes - in order to do this

balancing immediate family with starting a new family of your own, would be very easy if the state didn't stick it's head in everybodies affairs...

This right here is where humanity started to fall apart. When we reduced ourselves to cells and electrical charges along with letting the state become the masters of our fate that's when everything went wrong.