Well lets start with the alliance. Well not really a alliance but more coalition. Destroy Heathers support base and then start playing against each other. Good idea in theory but we'll see who sticks with it. Jason going with the "you can trust Heather to be dishonest and to scheme" but can't guess what idiots will do. Well hopefully this will help Jason against Heather or to at least soften the blow of Heathers schemes.
What I find most interesting is Izzy being at the meeting but only mentioning what Jason said about Heather but not Jason's plan for Justin. Hmmm is Izzy trying to play both sides and keep weakening them to her benefit? Very much a high risk high reward if true but has the downsides of if she is caught by one or both sides she is gone.
Jason's challenge was good and very funny. Flew a lot during this episode. Hey at least he got a nice lady leg lamp for his trailer now. Really getting points with Gwen. Getting her coffee and helping her with her challenge. Gwen starting to get a crush on Jason?
Now Heather didn't like what Jason said about her. Now she is basically down to four people in her alliance(three if I'm right about Izzy) with Justin gone. I'm guessing Jason was the last person to get his marshmallow? Not really sure if the canon scheme would of worked on Jason and Gwen because they very much don't trust what Heather does. So how would Heather try to stop the Jason and Gwen alliance? Hmmm maybe Heather will try using the Heather/Jason ship Courtney loves against Gwen? Maybe claim that Gwen was being mean to Heather and keeping Jason away from her? Courtney would get Duncan to help so that would be five votes(Trent wouldn't vote for Gwen to make six but Heather could trick him to just vote for Jason).
Yup, his argument is basically that it's easier to deal with a known threat than an unknown one. It remains to be seen who sticks with it, as you say.
Can't comment too much on that one without spoiling the story... but re-read the conversation between them. You'll note Izzy answered Heather's questions entirely truthfully; Jason didn't try to form an alliance against her, and he did say Heather was predictable. Izzy didn't tell her the whole truth, however, for whatever reason.
Possibly. There are certainly hints of it, throughout.
Can't comment too much on the marshmallows (mostly because I didn't think through the exact order this time around), but yeah, Heather's canon scheme wouldn't have worked in this case - if she did it with Trent it would have had little to no effect since Gwen's over him already, and if she tried the same thing with Jason, well, let's just say Jason would've thought she had suddenly gone mad what with their previous interactions... and that's assuming he would've even fallen for her rather mediocre acting skills in the first place and given her an opportunity to try kissing him. As for what her current plan is? Find out next time, on Total Drama Z! (sorry)
Yup, his argument is basically that it's easier to deal with a known threat than an unknown one. It remains to be seen who sticks with it, as you say.
Can't comment too much on that one without spoiling the story... but re-read the conversation between them. You'll note Izzy answered Heather's questions entirely truthfully; Jason didn't try to form an alliance against her, and he did say Heather was predictable. Izzy didn't tell her the whole truth, however, for whatever reason.
Possibly. There are certainly hints of it, throughout.
Can't comment too much on the marshmallows (mostly because I didn't think through the exact order this time around), but yeah, Heather's canon scheme wouldn't have worked in this case - if she did it with Trent it would have had little to no effect since Gwen's over him already, and if she tried the same thing with Jason, well, let's just say Jason would've thought she had suddenly gone mad what with their previous interactions... and that's assuming he would've even fallen for her rather mediocre acting skills in the first place and given her an opportunity to try kissing him. As for what her current plan is? Find out next time, on Total Drama Z! (sorry)
Following in the advise of Captain Jack Sparrow huh? Can trust a dishonest person to be dishonest(Heather). Its the honest one you got to be worried about because you don know when they'll do something stupid(Trent).
Hmmm the only things I can think of is Izzy trying to play both sides or Jason told Izzy to say the things he told her to say to Heather to make Heather angry so she does something while he keeps a close eye on what she does from himself and Izzy giving reports. Which would be a good way to reveal that Heather is a schemer. That or Izzy just wants to make chaos happen. XD
Gwen drawing Jason while he is in swim trunks....Gwen you pervert(XD). More seriously Gwen and Jason are getting close if nothing else.....Trent rages in the background.
Yeah no way the canon scheme would of worked. so curious what Heather will do. Sticking with my theory for now. Will have to think more on this.
Following in the advise of Captain Jack Sparrow huh? Can trust a dishonest person to be dishonest(Heather). Its the honest one you got to be worried about because you don know when they'll do something stupid(Trent).
Hmmm the only things I can think of is Izzy trying to play both sides or Jason told Izzy to say the things he told her to say to Heather to make Heather angry so she does something while he keeps a close eye on what she does from himself and Izzy giving reports. Which would be a good way to reveal that Heather is a schemer. That or Izzy just wants to make chaos happen. XD
Gwen drawing Jason while he is a swim trunks....Gwen you pervert(XD). More seriously Gwen and Jason are getting close if nothing else.....Trent rages in the background.
Yeah no way the canon scheme would of worked. so curious what Heather will do. Sticking with my theory for now. Will have to think more on this.
It's interesting that Izzy of all characters is apparently running some kind of scheme. Then again it's Izzy and she doesn't think like everybody else, it's plausible she actually thinks she helping Heather with her words.
Thanks! And yeah, the SI can be a bit OP in some ways... but that's to be expected, seeing as he was a full adult with years of experience and learning (not to mention 30 years of martial arts and street fighting) over the canon characters before ROB turned him into a teenager and tossed him into a world with cartoon physics. A lot of the challenges in Total Drama can't be won through brute force alone, though, and the SI has major weaknesses in some areas, which I'm hoping gets through in the writing. And above all, this story is a comedy.
The current plan is to finish season 1, but the overall story won't end there. Once season 1 is finished I foresee the following options:
A) I continue right away with season 2.
B) I put this story on hold to continue writing Blessings To This Wonderful Overlord.
C) I put this story on hold to begin writing something new.
Which of these options ends up happening depends on how things are looking at the time, both with story popularity and my offline life, but this story is intended to go beyond season 1. Oh, and regardless, there is always a possibility I take a short break from writing before proceeding with one of the options. Time will tell.
It's interesting that Izzy of all characters is apparently running some kind of scheme. Then again it's Izzy and she doesn't think like everybody else, it's plausible she actually thinks she helping Heather with her words.
Comedy in the funny sense, yes. Comedy as in everything works out... depends. It's definitely not a doom-and-gloom type story, I can tell you that much. This is not grimdark in any sense of the word, but that doesn't mean everything will work out in the SI's favor or anything, either. There will be ups and downs and emotional drama, but no outright tragedies or anything like that. This story is meant to be lighthearted and enjoyable, despite taking occasional dips in deeper waters... pretty much like the original Total Drama.
Took me a little while but I'm finally gonna make some guesses for next episode. So lets start on the actual challenge. The game of hid and seek really. Its interesting because multiple players could be safe. Three ways to win the first is hid and don't be found, make it to home base or find another player and bring them to Chef. Most of the players were caught in canon because Chef can track people. Jason might be one of the few people that can hid from Chef or actually make it back to the base. Then there is the possible plan to if they got caught they can have the backup plan of just knowing where someone is and then just catching them.
Now lets go with a few possible changes. With Owen gone the roof won't break with Owens and DJ's weight which makes Heather safe from catching them. No Leshawna but that doesn't change much. Courtney, Eva, Jason and Trent are the new things so what they do to hid is in question. What I'm curious about is Duncan maybe making his own alliance to counter Jason's and Heather's. Now who would he actually bring in? Well obviously Courtney first, could see Duncan wanting DJ but that could come back to bite Duncan because can see DJ tell Jason because they do have a agreement to all work together and what Duncan is doing would go against the spirit of that so could see it happen, Trent from knowing he is against Jason but doesn't realize that Trent is already with Heather, and finally maybe Izzy to try getting majority of the votes and hoping to get her on his side but again doesn't realize Izzy is with Heather sorta. So this could make the game very interesting if this stuff happen. Jason might decide that making an alliance with Gwen and Eva official if he hears what Duncan is doing from DJ.
Took me a little while but I'm finally gonna make some guesses for next episode. So lets start on the actual challenge. The game of hid and seek really. Its interesting because multiple players could be safe. Three ways to win the first is hid and don't be found, make it to home base or find another player and bring them to Chef. Most of the players were caught in canon because Chef can track people. Jason might be one of the few people that can hid from Chef or actually make it back to the base. Then there is the possible plan to if they got caught they can have the backup plan of just knowing where someone is and then just catching them.
Now lets go with a few possible changes. With Owen gone the roof won't break with Owens and DJ's weight which makes Heather safe from catching them. No Leshawna but that doesn't change much. Courtney, Eva, Jason and Trent are the new things so what they do to hid is in question. What I'm curious about is Duncan maybe making his own alliance to counter Jason's and Heather's. Now who would he actually bring in? Well obviously Courtney first, could see Duncan wanting DJ but that could come back to bite Duncan because can see DJ tell Jason because they do have a agreement to all work together and what Duncan is doing would go against the spirit of that so could see it happen, Trent from knowing he is against Jason but doesn't realize that Trent is already with Heather, and finally maybe Izzy to try getting majority of the votes and hoping to get her on his side but again doesn't realize Izzy is with Heather sorta. So this could make the game very interesting if this stuff happen. Jason might decide that making an alliance with Gwen and Eva official if he hears what Duncan is doing from DJ.
Yeah, lots of ways to earn immunity, and the possibility of multiple people getting immunity. For exactly that reason I've been having some trouble figuring out who's getting kicked off this time around; most of the people I could see getting ganged up on in regards to the votes have a fairly high likelihood of getting immunity one way or the other. I'm going to have to write out most/all the hide-and-seek scenes before I can make a final decision on that (oftentimes I can figure out who's getting kicked off as soon as I've watched the episode or after writing a couple scenes; not so this time around). Unless a disliked character ends up not getting immunity, the vote's gonna be close.
It's not impossible Duncan tries to make his own alliance, in part due to just wanting to win and in part perhaps because he's getting jealous that Courtney's putting so much of her attention on her whole Jason/Heather shipping thing and not really responding to his advances the way he would want. Sure, he gets along with Jason, but jealousy (irrational or not) is a powerful thing. And yeah, if Duncan does try an alliance his go-to members would probably be Courtney and DJ, with Izzy and maybe Trent as secondary possibilities, though the last one he might make a separate alliance with without telling the others, knowing that a lot of people dislike the guy due to the Gwen/Jason jealousy thing. Jason, for his part, probably would try to make a more official alliance if he finds out there's more than just Heather to worry about... and his first choices would definitely be Eva and Gwen.
In related news, the next chapter is about 25% done... so, yeah, it's gonna be a while.
Yeah, lots of ways to earn immunity, and the possibility of multiple people getting immunity. For exactly that reason I've been having some trouble figuring out who's getting kicked off this time around; most of the people I could see getting ganged up on in regards to the votes have a fairly high likelihood of getting immunity one way or the other. I'm going to have to write out most/all the hide-and-seek scenes before I can make a final decision on that (oftentimes I can figure out who's getting kicked off as soon as I've watched the episode or after writing a couple scenes; not so this time around). Unless a disliked character ends up not getting immunity, the vote's gonna be close.
It's not impossible Duncan tries to make his own alliance, in part due to just wanting to win and in part perhaps because he's getting jealous that Courtney's putting so much of her attention on her whole Jason/Heather shipping thing and not really responding to his advances the way he would want. Sure, he gets along with Jason, but jealousy (irrational or not) is a powerful thing. And yeah, if Duncan does try an alliance his go-to members would probably be Courtney and DJ, with Izzy and maybe Trent as secondary possibilities, though the last one he might make a separate alliance with without telling the others, knowing that a lot of people dislike the guy due to the Gwen/Jason jealousy thing. Jason, for his part, probably would try to make a more official alliance if he finds out there's more than just Heather to worry about... and his first choices would definitely be Eva and Gwen.
In related news, the next chapter is about 25% done... so, yeah, it's gonna be a while.
Yeah this is a challenge that who wins can very much change the game. Probably not easy to know who will actually win. Got to give it to Chef though he basically found everyone but Leshawna and that's only because she hid in the water near the base.
And yeah Duncan is here to win like everyone else. Yeah can see Duncan being annoyed about Courtney focusing too much on shipping Jason and Heather. Which could effect Duncan's and Courtney relationship. Not sure how Jason would take this but can see him understanding. Jason will make Duncan pay but will understand. But yeah if Duncan tries to get DJ, I can see DJ telling Jason from them being friends and not liking the idea of basically breaking an agreement. Izzy and Trent would tell Heather about the new alliance(well Izzy might not depends on how she is feeling). Man the game is getting better if Duncan tries making his own alliance while getting caught doing it. Which in turn has Jason makes his own.
Yeah this is a challenge that who wins can very much change the game. Probably not easy to know who will actually win. Got to give it to Chef though he basically found everyone but Leshawna and that's only because she hid in the water near the base.
And yeah Duncan is here to win like everyone else. Yeah can see Duncan being annoyed about Courtney focusing too much on shipping Jason and Heather. Which could effect Duncan's and Courtney relationship. Not sure how Jason would take this but can see him understanding. Jason will make Duncan pay but will understand. But yeah if Duncan tries to get DJ, I can see DJ telling Jason from them being friends and not liking the idea of basically breaking an agreement. Izzy and Trent would tell Heather about the new alliance(well Izzy might not depends on how she is feeling). Man the game is getting better if Duncan tries making his own alliance while getting caught doing it. Which in turn has Jason makes his own.
Well, Chef did have it somewhat easyin that everyone decided to hide in the camp or its immediate surroundings rather than, say, hightail it out into the island's interior... Izzy, in particular, could have likely evaded him fairly easily that way, but she wanted to have more fun or something. But even with that said, he definitely did a good job at the end of the day.
I can see DJ feeling hella anxious and guilty after being approached by Duncan, whether he accepts the alliance offer or just says he needs to think about it or whatever. Might make for a comedic scene or two if that happens as he wrestles with his conscience. If Duncan does make an alliance of his own (in the next chapter or a later one) it would certainly make the game more "interesting" (read: complicated and liekly dramatic) for everyone involved.
Well, Chef did have it somewhat easyin that everyone decided to hide in the camp or its immediate surroundings rather than, say, hightail it out into the island's interior... Izzy, in particular, could have likely evaded him fairly easily that way, but she wanted to have more fun or something. But even with that said, he definitely did a good job at the end of the day.
I can see DJ feeling hella anxious and guilty after being approached by Duncan, whether he accepts the alliance offer or just says he needs to think about it or whatever. Might make for a comedic scene or two if that happens as he wrestles with his conscience. If Duncan does make an alliance of his own (in the next chapter or a later one) it would certainly make the game more "interesting" (read: complicated and liekly dramatic) for everyone involved.
True. People kinda made it easy for Chef but to be fair being close to the base is a decent strategy. Which is why Chef found them because its also a easy strategy to guess. Do got to give it to Chef though with his many skills though. Izzy was very much trying to have fun which can be good and bad strategy wise.
Yeah that's how I'm seeing DJ reacting. Feeling guilty or not sure what to do. Which leads to telling Jason. Either way drama will happen which Chris and the audience enjoys very much. First season is probably going better than Chris expected and he's loving it.
Hmmm would Trent wait for heather to do her plan? With the information that Jason and Gwen are in an alliance would he actually try something on his own? Like make his own plan that probably backfires or try confronting Gwen to make her reconsider again or Jason to threaten him really. Maybe its me thinking Trent wouldn't wait days for Heather to do her plan between episodes and do something on his own that maybe makes things worse for either himself, Heather, Jason, Gwen or everyone.
Hmmm would Trent wait for heather to do her plan? With the information that Jason and Gwen are in an alliance would he actually try something on his own? Like make his own plan that probably backfires or try confronting Gwen to make her reconsider again or Jason to threaten him really. Maybe its me thinking Trent wouldn't wait days for Heather to do her plan between episodes and do something on his own that maybe makes things worse for either himself, Heather, Jason, Gwen or everyone.
Given that he now likely thinks Jason and Gwen are truly in an alliance - due to Heather claiming such after witnessing the skunk thing - there is a definite possibility he would try something (likely stupid) on his own. Either another attempt at a confrontation or a poorly thought out scheme might be in the works... or maybe he will try to garner support from other campers outside Heather's alliance, as difficult as that would be for him after how much he screwed up with his last attempt at confronting Jason. Whether any of this would come to fruition before Heather tries implementing her plan? We'll see.
In related news: The next chapter is about 35-40% done. It's slow going, not because of a lack of inspiration (I'd say I've mapped out about 70-80% of the chapter in my head, I simply need to put it down on paper... or digital paper, anyway) but rather a lack of time coupled with lack of the right mindset to write when I do have time. There have been a lot of distractions lately, not the least of which has been the recent heat wave turning my mind into mush.
It doesn't help that I actually had more of the chapter written when I suddenly realized I could make the plot considerably better by changing up how some scenes played out... which led to the entire challenge going very differently than I had originally intended, forcing me to scrap or rewrite more scenes. Twice. So, yeah, I'm on my third iteration of this chapter as far as the challenge goes, and in terms of the (overarching) plot I can honestly say that each iteration has been better than the previous, so it's not like it a waste of time... but yeah, it has added a lot of time. For those interested, the different iterations have to do with Jason's chosen tactics during the challenge and how other campers react to it - the first was sound from a purely tactical standpoint, but wasn't overly interesting from a reader perspective. The second was basically a variation of the first, but with other campers getting roped into it (which also threatened to make certain relationships change quicker than I felt comfortable with relative to my long-term plans for the overarching story). The third is an entirely different tactic that I figured out after rewatching a couple scenes of the episode while I was writing. Like the previous it is a sound tactic for the challenge, but should also be more interesting for the viewers... and put more focus on a certain part of Jason's personality, which in turn could change how some of the other campers view him.
So, yeah, I think you can see why this chapter has taken a lot longer than I initially thought it would.
The 20-30% that I haven't yet mapped out in my head relates to how (if) Heather's plan will affect the fallout of Jason's chosen tactics during the challenge. Basically, Jason's tactics will be the third iteration regardless of how Heather's plan works out, but both Heather's plan and Jason's tactics will in turn affect camper relationships/views a bit, and that's the part I'm struggling with as far as planning goes.
If anyone wants to help me turn the wheels in my head on that, feel free to discuss (with me as well as each other) the following: What do you think Heather's plan will be, and how do you think it will affect the views and relationships between Jason, Heather, Gwen and whichever other campers either become privy to the plan (e.g. Trent) or end up seeing the result (whether the plan succeeds or fails)?
For this thought exercise, keep in mind the following: there is either 1 or 2 free days between the challenges during which Heather can lay the groundwork for her plan and also execute it (assuming she doesn't wait until after the challenge); Heather's goal is to break up the perceived alliance between Jason and Gwen; she has at her disposal Lindsay and Trent, and to an extent Izzy (though she considers the redhead a bit of a wild card and not fully reliable), in addition to whoever else she may be able to manipulate/trick into helping out; Heather knows/suspects Jason will see through schemes that are too obvious or have been tried before (e.g. the diary thing); and finally Heather feels she doesn't have the time for a slow, long-term plan in this instance. Will she go for subtle or overt? Will she try to rope in others outside her alliance to do her dirty work for her? If so, will she do it overtly by making them some sort of offer, or will she trick them? Will she target Jason or Gwen for manipulating into breaking the perceived alliance? What will the fallout be?
I won't be spoiling anything, of course, but your ideas and viewpoints may change how it all ends up playing out, especially if you give me some good ideas for how the various campers react to it all. And yes, I know this is very vague without additional input, but I don't want to spoil too much.
What Heather can do is limited by her knowledge of what the next challenge is. She might try to find that out somehow, or more likely use one of her minions to do it. Probably Trent because the rest are too stupid or unreliable to pull it off.
The best way to get that information and to win the challenge, in my opinion, is to bribe Chef to give them information and/or help them with the challenge. It would be hard to find something worth his while enough for him to stick his neck out but it would be useful until Chris inevitably found out.
Well, I was really looking for discussion on Heather's plan to obstruct the perceived Gwen/Jason alliance, not how she would handle the next challenge. But hey, no worries.
The best way to get that information and to win the challenge, in my opinion, is to bribe Chef to give them information and/or help them with the challenge. It would be hard to find something worth his while enough for him to stick his neck out but it would be useful until Chris inevitably found out.
