How much purchasing power would you be willing to lose to support Ukraine?

[ATP]

The "replies" in question are just off topic spam, like the random gibberish dogeboy twitter aggregator posted, sometimes I wonder if he and Zach aren't the same person on account of incoherence.

You are naive.If USA wanted ukrainian victory,they would send 50 HIMARS,not 16.
And if putin wanted help anybody,he would not blown up his own people.
But,for us it is good - as long as they fight,there would be no NWO.which both kgb and CIA are part.

 

[Marduk]

You are naive.If USA wanted ukrainian victory,they would send 50 HIMARS,not 16.
And if putin wanted help anybody,he would not blown up his own people.
But,for us it is good - as long as they fight,there would be no NWO.which both kgb and CIA are part.

Launchers are no issue, the rate at which USA can spare GMLRS missiles from still non-wartime production rates for Ukraine is the issue, especially with the massive international orders for launchers and missiles already paid for. Together with the M270's Ukraine has enough launchers to use the missiles they get. Even the 16 HIMARS could fire almost 3k missiles per month.

 

[Agent23]

Now I am starting to think Marduk is a bot, since he is responding to ATP's usual claims that Putin controls the global deep state with some infodump on HIMARS.

Both of which are off topic, of course.

 

[ATP]

Now I am starting to think Marduk is a bot, since he is responding to ATP's usual claims that Putin controls the global deep state with some infodump on HIMARS.

Both of which are off topic, of course.

Nope,he is part of it,just like rest of kgb.And now decided to take more then he was allowed to,so he is disciplined,and probably would be replaced.
But,as long as they fight,NWO could not crush us more,so...long live putin!

 

[Husky_Khan]

Now I am starting to think Marduk is a bot, since he is responding to ATP's usual claims that Putin controls the global deep state with some infodump on HIMARS.

You are naive.If USA wanted ukrainian victory,they would send 50 HIMARS,not 16.

Launchers are no issue, the rate at which USA can spare GMLRS missiles from still non-wartime production rates for Ukraine is the issue, especially with the massive international orders for launchers and missiles already paid for. Together with the M270's Ukraine has enough launchers to use the missiles they get. Even the 16 HIMARS could fire almost 3k missiles per month.

 

[Agent23]

Dogeboi, I see you are snipping out the meat of ATP's thesis that that the CIA and the KGB (which is still around and controls everything as per his other comments) are part of a shadowy NWO cabal.
Classy, very classy.

Why don't you and the other autistic Ukraine fanboys stick to your containment thread and stop spamming an actually serious poll thread?

I mean, I know that chest pumping and random gibberish is all you can do, but do keep it there and away from the Adults table, mkay?

 

[Free-Stater 101]

Dogeboi, I see you are snipping out the meat of ATP's thesis that that the CIA and the KGB (which is still around and controls everything as per his other comments) are part of a shadowy NWO cabal.
Classy, very classy.

Why don't you and the other autistic Ukraine fanboys stick to your containment thread and stop spamming an actually serious poll thread?

I mean, I know that chest pumping and random gibberish is all you can do, but do keep it there and away from the Adults table, mkay?

What adults? As far as I can tell you are all acting like children.

 

[Husky_Khan]

random gibberish is all you can do

Dogeboi, I see you are snipping out the meat of ATP's thesis that that the CIA and the KGB (which is still around and controls everything as per his other comments) are part of a shadowy NWO cabal.

Why don't you and the other autistic Ukraine fanboys

random word salad supposed to mean something, or are you just bugging after an update, dogeboy twitter aggregator?

Rando pro-Ukraine reeing... not virtue signalling, farming for attention or producing unintelligible, off-topic reeing.

you go to shout at people, virtue signal, farm for attention and go into ideological fights?

Yeah, I think that you are mixing up the various parts of democracy.

And that you misunderstand the difference between polling and reality shows.

It's a good thing we're on his ignore list.

☺

 

[Marduk]

Ok, I shall put you down for 30% of your gross income for the next, oh, 3-4 years.
Payment and verification details to follow.

an actually serious poll thread?

🙃

 

[Agent23]

What adults? As far as I can tell you are all acting like children.

I post a simple, specific question and a poll.A bunch of the DebilZovites whine and post random gibberish.
How is that childish, exactly?

 

[Megadeath]

I post a simple, specific question and a poll.A bunch of the DebilZovites whine and post random gibberish.
How is that childish, exactly?

You don't think your own name calling and failure to meaningfully engage is childish? I'd have said they're two of the major hallmarks of childish argument. And, the fact that the poll is simple and specific hardly counts in your favour; if I make a poll asking whether you're a Russian shill or just an idiot it'd still be childish despite possessing those same qualities, and it would also be just as obviously about making some point without considering alternative positions as your own.

 

[ATP]

Dogeboi, I see you are snipping out the meat of ATP's thesis that that the CIA and the KGB (which is still around and controls everything as per his other comments) are part of a shadowy NWO cabal.
Classy, very classy.

Why don't you and the other autistic Ukraine fanboys stick to your containment thread and stop spamming an actually serious poll thread?

I mean, I know that chest pumping and random gibberish is all you can do, but do keep it there and away from the Adults table, mkay?

KGB is still here - and in not my comments,but colonel putin,who said that people remain in KGB to their death.Just like him.
And they are part of cabal - which,luckily for us,start fighting each other.I wish for next one hundred years war there.
Becouse as long as they fight,they would never made their NWO dream true.

And i am not Ukraine fanboy - only knew,that we would be genocided after them.So,we must help them.Just like you - becouse if you think that kgb be nice to Bulgary,remember what their idol sralin did to you after 1945.
You were treated worst then us.

 

[LordsFire]

I post a simple, specific question and a poll.A bunch of the DebilZovites whine and post random gibberish.
How is that childish, exactly?

This isn't a 'simple, specific question,' it is a classic attempt to frame a topic by the way you raise, it the way that you frame it making it functionally impossible for anyone to conclude anything except that you are right.

It's little surprise people reject your framing; it's also little surprise how you react to people rejecting that framing.

 

[Agent23]

KGB is still here - and in not my comments,but colonel putin,who said that people remain in KGB to their death.Just like him.
And they are part of cabal - which,luckily for us,start fighting each other.I wish for next one hundred years war there.
Becouse as long as they fight,they would never made their NWO dream true.

And i am not Ukraine fanboy - only knew,that we would be genocided after them.So,we must help them.Just like you - becouse if you think that kgb be nice to Bulgary,remember what their idol sralin did to you after 1945.
You were treated worst then us.

TBH I do not see any reason for the Russians to want to genocide you Poles.
There isn't really any outstanding territorial dispute between you guys, nor do you have resources that the Russians lack, there is no Russian minority within Poland, cultura, ethnic or lingual.
Unless of course you don't go Promethenaism 2.0 and try to change the alignments of other countries where the Russians have influence.

You use Latin and are Catholic, they use cyrilic and are Orthodox.

Frankly trying to force two religious denominations like that together is the same level of disaster as the Holy Roman Empire around the 30 years war.

Calm down, bro!

This isn't a 'simple, specific question,' it is a classic attempt to frame a topic by the way you raise, it the way that you frame it making it functionally impossible for anyone to conclude anything except that you are right.

It's little surprise people reject your framing; it's also little surprise how you react to people rejecting that framing.

The topic is, "how much of a decline in your purchasing power would be willing to suffer to support Ukraine".

The decline can happen in a number of ways, from more inflation to more expensive goods and services, to less revenues for businesses you are somehow connected to, from being an employee to being a stockholder directly or through some investment vehicle like an ETF.

 

[LordsFire]

The topic is, "how much of a decline in your purchasing power would be willing to suffer to support Ukraine".

The decline can happen in a number of ways, from more inflation to more expensive goods and services, to less revenues for businesses you are somehow connected to, from being an employee to being a stockholder directly or through some investment vehicle like an ETF.

And the topic is a false framing, especially for those of us here in the US.

As I explained in my first post on the thread, it is leftist environmentalist and budgetary policies that are causing inflation and loss of PPP. If the Dems hadn't cheated their way to control of the White House and Senate (probably the House of Representatives too), we'd still be expanding our oil production gangbusters, and the downturn in production elsewhere would be an economic positive for the US as we sold more into those markets.

Other nations do not have so clear-cut an advantage, but for example if the German government hadn't insisted on their suicidal dependence on Russian oil, they wouldn't be in so much trouble either.


To make it more clear, No loss of Purchasing Power Parity is necessary to aid the Ukrainians at all.

 

[Agent23]

And the topic is a false framing, especially for those of us here in the US.

As I explained in my first post on the thread, it is leftist environmentalist and budgetary policies that are causing inflation and loss of PPP. If the Dems hadn't cheated their way to control of the White House and Senate (probably the House of Representatives too), we'd still be expanding our oil production gangbusters, and the downturn in production elsewhere would be an economic positive for the US as we sold more into those markets.

Other nations do not have so clear-cut an advantage, but for example if the German government hadn't insisted on their suicidal dependence on Russian oil, they wouldn't be in so much trouble either.


To make it more clear, No loss of Purchasing Power Parity is necessary to aid the Ukrainians at all.

Euro at the start of the year - 1.16 USD.
Euro now - 0.99 USD.

You really don't understand that there are such things as inelastic supply of key material.

Oh, and also fuck you and everyone in the USA and UK that supports Ukraine.

You fuckwits are costing me and mine money, so I am not gonna shed a tear if ANTIFA burns your cities and Brandon and co steal your elections.

 

[LordsFire]

You fuckwits are costing me and mine money, so I am not gonna shed a tear if ANTIFA burns your cities and Brandon and co steal your elections.

And here we really get to the root of it. You bet some of your personal wealth on Russia, and you're salty about losing that bet, with a high probability of losing even harder.

Your entire stance on the Russia/Ukraine conflict has come across more and more like a protracted temper tantrum over that, combined with a lot of justification and moralizing.

 

[Agent23]

And here we really get to the root of it. You bet some of your personal wealth on Russia, and you're salty about losing that bet, with a high probability of losing even harder.

Your entire stance on the Russia/Ukraine conflict has come across more and more like a protracted temper tantrum over that, combined with a lot of justification and moralizing.

And here we have more bullshit from the whiny sanctimonious fuckwit.
I am paid in Euros, you stupid fuck, as are most people in Europe, and the other currencies are pegged or otherwise connected to the Euro and the European economy.

So, once again, fuck you, you delusional prick.
Eat the bullshit that spews from your mouth and die.

 

[King Arts]

Lol

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

And here we have more bullshit from the whiny sanctimonious fuckwit.
I am paid in Euros, you stupid fuck, as are most people in Europe, and the other currencies are pegged or otherwise connected to the Euro and the European economy.

So, once again, fuck you, you delusional prick.
Eat the bullshit that spews from your mouth and die.

I'd respond to that but then we'd probably both get the banhammer.