How long for Sauron to conquer Westeros

Aldarion

Neoreactionary Monarchist
So I remembered an old scenario of Mordor vs Westeros that I had written on before, and decided to make a more complex scenario here.

How long would it take for Sauron to take over entire Westeros if he
a) arrives to Westeros as a shipwrecked refugee?
b) is a minor lord in Westeros?
c) is a Lord Paramount of Iron Islands?

Assume that Sauron has no information on Westeros in scenario a), but has knowledge appropriate of his position in scenarios b) and c).
 
So I remembered an old scenario of Mordor vs Westeros that I had written on before, and decided to make a more complex scenario here.

How long would it take for Sauron to take over entire Westeros if he
a) arrives to Westeros as a shipwrecked refugee?
b) is a minor lord in Westeros?
c) is a Lord Paramount of Iron Islands?

Assume that Sauron has no information on Westeros in scenario a), but has knowledge appropriate of his position in scenarios b) and c).

I'd give it five seasons or so... without equipment in Scenario A.

So I haven't seen Rings of Power past the first episode because it was interminably boring. But from what I've gained from osmosis of watching reviews and reading the Wikipedia synopsis... I got my take.

Season One:

So Yara Greyjoy, the Lady Paramount of the Iron Islands, still pissed she got tricked into being servile to King Bran of the North due to the abysmal final episode of Game of Thrones, has teamed up with some Blood Riders of Daenerys Dothraki Warhost and disaffected Northmen hunting beyond the Wall for Jon Snow. Within the Seven(ish) Kingdoms there's a desire for independence but King Bran's gift of prescience has defeated all attempts at usurping their power. She hopes by capturing Jon Snow, she can use him as a hostage for leverage to free their peoples.

But after singlehandedly slaying a Ice Zombie, the Lords of the Iron Islands state she needs to return home. Yara is sad because all she wants to do is be free and go on adventures and fuck hot lesbian chicks and kill Northmen and Wildlings. But realizing she has to return now or she'll be removed from power, her host returns to the Iron Islands while the Blood Riders continue their hunt. But as her ship sails back from the Land Beyond the Wall to the Iron Islands they encounter a shipwreck with a single survivor... named "Halbrand."

The mysterious Halbrand says he's running from something but remains mum on the details and together they defeat a Sea Monster or something. She praises the Drowned God and Halbrand, intrigued, asks questions about the Faiths of this Realm, apparently somehow ignorant of such things. When she asks where he's from, he simply replies... "The West." Intrigued by him, she then reveals after hitting on some lustful Barmaid that she's a lesbian and he asks what a Lesbian is as the land he is from has no concept of queerness and says that the purpose of lovemaking is for supporting a family. Yara is like fuck that shit... and they have an argument where he says he can PROVE it to her.

They then have a gratuitously long sex scene which is absolutely unnecessary where he cures her of her lesbianism. Super effective. Anyways Halbrand infests his way into the Court of the Iron Islands and politically astute, helps Yara solidify her power in the Iron Islands and learns about the politics and recent history of Westeros. He's also intrigued by the mention of someplace called Valyria which was destroyed in fire and brimstone by powerful volcanic activity and was the home of the Targaryen dynasty as well as Dragons... Halbrand suddenly wants to go there. Arya is leery but decides to repay the favor since he's helped her so much and set sail with a Maester whose an expert on health or whatever because of the Stonemen sickness and all that jazz.

Meanwhile the rest of Westero is in upheavel. Every attempt of Rebellion, by the Reach, the Dornish, as well as attempts to assassinate King Bran backed by the Iron Bank of Braavos due to Bronn's reckless inflationary policies of adopted a brothel-backed paper currency and whatever else was crushed due to King Bran's increasingly detached gift of prescience. But even as the rest of the Small Council perceives the growing threat and discontent of the Iron Islands, Bran himself cannot see their future. When he decides to act and send a delegation to bring Yara to Kings Landing... he learns Yara Greyjoy has already departed on a journey abroad... Bran focuses his thoughts... but when he delves in too deep... all he sees... is a faceless vision staring back at him from the West.

Season Two:

Yara Greyjoy and Halbrand arrive in Valyria along with the Biomancer Maester named Theophrastus and a group of Dornish troops and nobles and immediately Halbrand is intrigued by the volcanic landscape he has arrived in. He says the tides and waterfalls here can move watermills that can power bellows and smiths, and he can forge a new Empire here fueled by the fires of industry. Yara is mildy creeped out by this and asks again who he is. And who he is running from? His looming shadow, one of pure darkness, crosses over Yara as they enter a volcanic cave and then hear the distant cry of a dragon...

In the North beyond the Wall, the Blood Riders and traitorous Northmen finally come upon a settlement of Wildlings and find Jon Snow among them and after a showdown, they capture the one responsible for so much treachery and take his sword Longclaw as well. The Blood Riders take Jon Snow captive, stating they will bring him to the Iron Islands to face 'Iron Justice."

Back in Valyria some Dornish noble whose with them says he knows how to summon Drogon, the nearby Dragon because he has Valyrian blood or some shit. The group manages to summon Drogon and Drogon recognizes the Dornishmen and Yara as pals of his Mother and even Halbrand shows that he's really good with the beast. So good that it is Halbrand who mounts Drogon and they fly off to the shock of the others.

King Bran orders the Bronn to investigate whats going on with Yara's wherabouts if only to keep him from further damaging the economy and he finds out that Yara is in the Valyrian wasteland. Worried, King Bran orders Bronn and Ser Davos to lead a force to apprehend the Lady of the Iron Islands.

Meanwhile in the North, the Blood Riders are approaching the coast with Jon Snow in custody where a ship is waiting for them, but upon arriving they find the entire crew is dead. Suddenly Arya Stark emerges from the darkness, killing most of the kidnappers though a few escape back into the tundra. Freeing her big brother, Arya Stark replies she found what's West of Westeros...

Season Three:

Drogon brings Halbrand to an ancient Valyrian Temple where Daenerys body has been encased in ash and a Red Priestess named Kinvara, the High Priestess of the Red Temple of Volantis, the Flame of Truth, the Light of Wisdom, and First Servant of the Lord of Light turns and greets Halbrand, recognizing him as a fellow servant of the Lord of Light. Together they will resurrect the true rightful ruler of both Westeros and Essos, Daenerys Targaryen.

Yara Greyjoy and the others show up to the Valyrian Temple just in time to witness the Resurrection Ceremony as suddenly a creature of shadow and flame rises from the volcano and engulfs her form with shadow and flame, before dissipating as right before their stunned eyes, Daenerys is resurrected. She's also very, very naked of course. Except for the Ash. Oh and baby Balrogs (for merchandising) are kinda sitting on her shoulders.

Arya Stark and Jon Snow race down to Kings Landing to inform King Bran of what's going on, so they can inform him of the threat he's facing. Meanwhile the Valyrian sword Longclaw is finally brought to the Iron Islands. Brienne and Davos task force meanwhile arrives at the Freehold when Drogon soars above them, with Daenerys flying on the back of the dragon. The fleet is struck with fear and terror and as the Iron Island ships approach, the fleet starts to rout without even giving battle, many of them surrendering as Davos and Brienne manage to escape the complete blunder.

Daenerys, having won the "Battle" has a Small Council with Halbrand, Kinvara, Yara and the other characters and Yara is worried as Daenerys talks of liberating Westeros and Essos. Hearing of her return, Dothraki tribes and the cities of Slavers Bay offer their submission to her, already hailing her as the Queen of the Southlands. Meanwhile Halbrand discusses things with Maester Theophrastus, asking about constructing a forge in the fires of Mount Valyria's mightiest volcano, and if he can acquire more dragon eggs...

Back in Kings Landing, Davos and Brienne return bringing news that Daenerys has returned just as Jon Snow and Arya Stark return as well. Sansa Stark has said she cannot help, because her people are independent now and they're facing widespread famine for some completely unrelated reason... 🤷‍♀️ Bronn says Jon Snow needs to go to Daenerys and tell her he loves her, that's an idea, she's probably thirsty for her relatives cock after being dead so long. But Jon Snow says "I Dun Want It." All of them begin begging him to bang his niece or cousin or whatever she is for comedic effect.

Arya then says there's another way. While in the West, she found a warrior who has experience in dealing with this person named Halbrand... he too comes from the West, but is actually an Easterling but one of the greatest, if not the greatest warrior of his age. In another season finale shocker... she reveals his name is... STRIDER!

Okay that's all for now... I'm running out of steam to fill out the final two seasons... The Writers Strike really impacted me.
 
I'd give it five seasons or so... without equipment in Scenario A.

So I haven't seen Rings of Power past the first episode because it was interminably boring. But from what I've gained from osmosis of watching reviews and reading the Wikipedia synopsis... I got my take.

Season One:

So Yara Greyjoy, the Lady Paramount of the Iron Islands, still pissed she got tricked into being servile to King Bran of the North due to the abysmal final episode of Game of Thrones, has teamed up with some Blood Riders of Daenerys Dothraki Warhost and disaffected Northmen hunting beyond the Wall for Jon Snow. Within the Seven(ish) Kingdoms there's a desire for independence but King Bran's gift of prescience has defeated all attempts at usurping their power. She hopes by capturing Jon Snow, she can use him as a hostage for leverage to free their peoples.

But after singlehandedly slaying a Ice Zombie, the Lords of the Iron Islands state she needs to return home. Yara is sad because all she wants to do is be free and go on adventures and fuck hot lesbian chicks and kill Northmen and Wildlings. But realizing she has to return now or she'll be removed from power, her host returns to the Iron Islands while the Blood Riders continue their hunt. But as her ship sails back from the Land Beyond the Wall to the Iron Islands they encounter a shipwreck with a single survivor... named "Halbrand."

The mysterious Halbrand says he's running from something but remains mum on the details and together they defeat a Sea Monster or something. She praises the Drowned God and Halbrand, intrigued, asks questions about the Faiths of this Realm, apparently somehow ignorant of such things. When she asks where he's from, he simply replies... "The West." Intrigued by him, she then reveals after hitting on some lustful Barmaid that she's a lesbian and he asks what a Lesbian is as the land he is from has no concept of queerness and says that the purpose of lovemaking is for supporting a family. Yara is like fuck that shit... and they have an argument where he says he can PROVE it to her.

They then have a gratuitously long sex scene which is absolutely unnecessary where he cures her of her lesbianism. Super effective. Anyways Halbrand infests his way into the Court of the Iron Islands and politically astute, helps Yara solidify her power in the Iron Islands and learns about the politics and recent history of Westeros. He's also intrigued by the mention of someplace called Valyria which was destroyed in fire and brimstone by powerful volcanic activity and was the home of the Targaryen dynasty as well as Dragons... Halbrand suddenly wants to go there. Arya is leery but decides to repay the favor since he's helped her so much and set sail with a Maester whose an expert on health or whatever because of the Stonemen sickness and all that jazz.

Meanwhile the rest of Westero is in upheavel. Every attempt of Rebellion, by the Reach, the Dornish, as well as attempts to assassinate King Bran backed by the Iron Bank of Braavos due to Bronn's reckless inflationary policies of adopted a brothel-backed paper currency and whatever else was crushed due to King Bran's increasingly detached gift of prescience. But even as the rest of the Small Council perceives the growing threat and discontent of the Iron Islands, Bran himself cannot see their future. When he decides to act and send a delegation to bring Yara to Kings Landing... he learns Yara Greyjoy has already departed on a journey abroad... Bran focuses his thoughts... but when he delves in too deep... all he sees... is a faceless vision staring back at him from the West.

Season Two:

Yara Greyjoy and Halbrand arrive in Valyria along with the Biomancer Maester named Theophrastus and a group of Dornish troops and nobles and immediately Halbrand is intrigued by the volcanic landscape he has arrived in. He says the tides and waterfalls here can move watermills that can power bellows and smiths, and he can forge a new Empire here fueled by the fires of industry. Yara is mildy creeped out by this and asks again who he is. And who he is running from? His looming shadow, one of pure darkness, crosses over Yara as they enter a volcanic cave and then hear the distant cry of a dragon...

In the North beyond the Wall, the Blood Riders and traitorous Northmen finally come upon a settlement of Wildlings and find Jon Snow among them and after a showdown, they capture the one responsible for so much treachery and take his sword Longclaw as well. The Blood Riders take Jon Snow captive, stating they will bring him to the Iron Islands to face 'Iron Justice."

Back in Valyria some Dornish noble whose with them says he knows how to summon Drogon, the nearby Dragon because he has Valyrian blood or some shit. The group manages to summon Drogon and Drogon recognizes the Dornishmen and Yara as pals of his Mother and even Halbrand shows that he's really good with the beast. So good that it is Halbrand who mounts Drogon and they fly off to the shock of the others.

King Bran orders the Bronn to investigate whats going on with Yara's wherabouts if only to keep him from further damaging the economy and he finds out that Yara is in the Valyrian wasteland. Worried, King Bran orders Bronn and Ser Davos to lead a force to apprehend the Lady of the Iron Islands.

Meanwhile in the North, the Blood Riders are approaching the coast with Jon Snow in custody where a ship is waiting for them, but upon arriving they find the entire crew is dead. Suddenly Arya Stark emerges from the darkness, killing most of the kidnappers though a few escape back into the tundra. Freeing her big brother, Arya Stark replies she found what's West of Westeros...

Season Three:

Drogon brings Halbrand to an ancient Valyrian Temple where Daenerys body has been encased in ash and a Red Priestess named Kinvara, the High Priestess of the Red Temple of Volantis, the Flame of Truth, the Light of Wisdom, and First Servant of the Lord of Light turns and greets Halbrand, recognizing him as a fellow servant of the Lord of Light. Together they will resurrect the true rightful ruler of both Westeros and Essos, Daenerys Targaryen.

Yara Greyjoy and the others show up to the Valyrian Temple just in time to witness the Resurrection Ceremony as suddenly a creature of shadow and flame rises from the volcano and engulfs her form with shadow and flame, before dissipating as right before their stunned eyes, Daenerys is resurrected. She's also very, very naked of course. Except for the Ash. Oh and baby Balrogs (for merchandising) are kinda sitting on her shoulders.

Arya Stark and Jon Snow race down to Kings Landing to inform King Bran of what's going on, so they can inform him of the threat he's facing. Meanwhile the Valyrian sword Longclaw is finally brought to the Iron Islands. Brienne and Davos task force meanwhile arrives at the Freehold when Drogon soars above them, with Daenerys flying on the back of the dragon. The fleet is struck with fear and terror and as the Iron Island ships approach, the fleet starts to rout without even giving battle, many of them surrendering as Davos and Brienne manage to escape the complete blunder.

Daenerys, having won the "Battle" has a Small Council with Halbrand, Kinvara, Yara and the other characters and Yara is worried as Daenerys talks of liberating Westeros and Essos. Hearing of her return, Dothraki tribes and the cities of Slavers Bay offer their submission to her, already hailing her as the Queen of the Southlands. Meanwhile Halbrand discusses things with Maester Theophrastus, asking about constructing a forge in the fires of Mount Valyria's mightiest volcano, and if he can acquire more dragon eggs...

Back in Kings Landing, Davos and Brienne return bringing news that Daenerys has returned just as Jon Snow and Arya Stark return as well. Sansa Stark has said she cannot help, because her people are independent now and they're facing widespread famine for some completely unrelated reason... 🤷‍♀️ Bronn says Jon Snow needs to go to Daenerys and tell her he loves her, that's an idea, she's probably thirsty for her relatives cock after being dead so long. But Jon Snow says "I Dun Want It." All of them begin begging him to bang his niece or cousin or whatever she is for comedic effect.

Arya then says there's another way. While in the West, she found a warrior who has experience in dealing with this person named Halbrand... he too comes from the West, but is actually an Easterling but one of the greatest, if not the greatest warrior of his age. In another season finale shocker... she reveals his name is... STRIDER!

Okay that's all for now... I'm running out of steam to fill out the final two seasons... The Writers Strike really impacted me.
Uh, I was talking book Sauron here.

Maybe I should have been clearer, but I simply cannot see the show Sauron as, well, Sauron.

Still, interesting scenario... and far better than anything RoP writers had come up with.
 
Uh, I was talking book Sauron here.

Maybe I should have been clearer, but I simply cannot see the show Sauron as, well, Sauron.

Still, interesting scenario... and far better than anything RoP writers had come up with.

Oh believe me... I know perfectly well what your intention was.

But as a Showrunner, I have integrity and cannot have my vision of Tolkien and GRMM's works sullied by the literature it is based on.
 
So I remembered an old scenario of Mordor vs Westeros that I had written on before, and decided to make a more complex scenario here.

How long would it take for Sauron to take over entire Westeros if he
a) arrives to Westeros as a shipwrecked refugee?
b) is a minor lord in Westeros?
c) is a Lord Paramount of Iron Islands?

Assume that Sauron has no information on Westeros in scenario a), but has knowledge appropriate of his position in scenarios b) and c).
Sauron was patient.One generation to get powerbase,another to corrupt other Lords/Rings/,and third to take over.
 
Given how morally bankrupt most people in Westeros are, it would be trivially easy for Sauron to subvert them over to him. If Sauron was captured and then took over Numenor within 60 years he could definitely take Westeros in less time. He would just start telling the powers that be what they wanted to hear and temptations and he'd have their attention just like that.
 
A) 30 Years
B) 15 Years
C) 7 Years

Reasoning: The higher the status the more resources he has, the more resources he has the quicker he can non magically influence (Bribes/Trades) and greater the reach (Minions/Territory) he has to spread said influence.
 
A) 30 Years
B) 15 Years
C) 7 Years

Reasoning: The higher the status the more resources he has, the more resources he has the quicker he can non magically influence (Bribes/Trades) and greater the reach (Minions/Territory) he has to spread said influence.
He could,but he was extremally patient in canon.He probably would wait till current generation die off,and new one,influenced by him,take power.
 
He could,but he was extremally patient in canon.He probably would wait till current generation die off,and new one,influenced by him,take power.
Yeh I just going with the quickest possible I see, it could definitely take longer.
 
There's no way Amazon is going to approve thirty seasons of this highly canon spinoff lol.
I hope,that you are right...but they could still waste money just to smear on Tolkien.Orcs replacing head of King - funny thing is,Tolkien arleady wrote about that.

Not funny,that we must live in such times.
 
A) 30 Years
B) 15 Years
C) 7 Years

Reasoning: The higher the status the more resources he has, the more resources he has the quicker he can non magically influence (Bribes/Trades) and greater the reach (Minions/Territory) he has to spread said influence.
C
 

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