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Zachowon

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Um... yes? Their social control policies are actually pretty bad and their version of the NSA monitors their citizens a lot more proactively than ours does. I'd honestly put them as worse than the UK or Germany, as those countries tend to do less with what they gather.
the US NSA has a lot of things they have to abide by if the people working there at least low level dont want to end up in federal prison.
Do other countries not have something similair to FISA?
 

Yinko

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Do other countries not have something similair to FISA?
I'm not sure, but I do know that what they have gotten caught doing is pretty invasive. The German agency was caught collecting sweat and body odor samples, which is infamous in Germany as an old Stasi tactic. And then of course the Australians monitor your browser history actively as well as engaging in digital cloning and anti-encryption.

The thing that makes these "police state" types of activities is that they are actively trying to control the private behaviors and thoughts of their citizens. Having lots of police or having the police be a gang isn't enough, they have to be passively empowered by the state in order to adversarial control the populace. So of course the US is a police state, just not nearly as bad a one as many other western nations. And most non-western nations wouldn't even qualify as the government doesn't actually care what the people get up to as long as it doesn't cut into their profits.
 

Husky_Khan

The Dog Whistler... I mean Whisperer.
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Whelp, time for a Crusa... wait, isn't that how we got here in the first place? Fucking Venice.

Alas the only way the Crusade would work nowadays is with private business interests. Greece is too busy tax evading and striking against itself to make enough CHRISTIAN WARRIORS to properly Crusade all over Marmara. Granted I doubt Oto Malera and Fiat will provide the lopsided financing to make such an endeavor possible.

We're going to need Slavic mercenaries from the Wagner Group, Huskarls and Varangians from AEGIS and a scadload of TCN's from the various brown skinned Catholic polities around the world... Which means we're going to need Papal Support on this expedition as well... damn. It almost seems like this whole thing is a ridiculous exercise in the unfeasible. :p

*continues fanfapping about it*
 

Arch Dornan

Oh, lovely. They've sent me a mo-ron.

The Trump solution. Not a bad idea after a civil war and to continue your legitimacy and Russian sponsorship.



Based Imam. Talks about how this is a conquest. Weakling Christians.

At least he's open about it in this current time when religion isn't what it used to be.
 

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