Asia-Pacific Google (and Facebook) Threatens to Remove Its Service From Australia

Terthna said:
Really? Because as far as I'm aware, Google has a monopoly on that market as well.
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No, that's actually pretty divided, with them. I mean, Google has 35%, and Facebook about 20%, but Google is on the decline slightly, and there's a bunch of competitors, so if they start charging extortionate prices, someone will undercut them. And this is just US ad revenue, I don't have global figures on hand, so it's probably even less. So sure, Google has the most market share, but that's hardly a monopoly.
 
Abhorsen said:
No, that's actually pretty divided, with them. I mean, Google has 35%, and Facebook about 20%, but Google is on the decline slightly, and there's a bunch of competitors, so if they start charging extortionate prices, someone will undercut them. And this is just US ad revenue, I don't have global figures on hand, so it's probably even less. So sure, Google has the most market share, but that's hardly a monopoly.
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Aren't Facebook ads only on Facebook though? Google puts advertising on other people's platforms via AdSense, which is a service I remember hearing a lot of complaints about in terms of its stranglehold on the online advertising marketplace.
 
Terthna said:
Aren't Facebook ads only on Facebook though? Google puts advertising on other people's platforms via AdSense, which is a service I remember hearing a lot of complaints about in terms of its stranglehold on the online advertising marketplace.
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Google adsense has about 41% of the market:

Jan 2022 Google Adsense Market Share Analysis

www.perfectleads.com www.perfectleads.com

Still no monopoly.
 
Husky_Khan said:
War Has Begun

www.usatoday.com

Facebook to ban Australian users from seeing news

Social media giant Facebook's decision to ban news comes after Australia’s proposed law to make tech companies pay publishers for their content.
www.usatoday.com

Sadly Google bent the knee. But Facebook has refused linking Australian published news on their platform.
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Why is it sad that google bent the knee? Google is our enemy husky, it means that when we get enough power we can make them bend the knee.
 
Cherico said:
Why is it sad that google bent the knee? Google is our enemy husky, it means that when we get enough power we can make them bend the knee.
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In that case i think the both sides are enemies. It's an intra-gang spat about which gangster should get a bigger cut of the money from their scheme.

In that light it is very understandable why is it happening. They have cooperated to set up the mainstream, establishment friendly media narrative, and the journos have a fundamental, critical role in that, after all they write the news. But in terms of division of the spoils, big tech gets far bigger money from taking part than the journos, who generally aren't doing well financially.
 
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Cherico said:
Why is it sad that google bent the knee? Google is our enemy husky, it means that when we get enough power we can make them bend the knee.
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I wanted a war... I wanted Google to bend the knee only after thousands of people Down Under decided to use DuckDuckGo or Yippy or Yahoo Search o Bing as their search engine of choice.
 
Husky_Khan said:
I wanted a war... I wanted Google to bend the knee only after thousands of people Down Under decided to use DuckDuckGo or Yippy or Yahoo Search o Bing as their search engine of choice.
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Why? Any other gets enough traction the government would just try to make them pay too. As is this is still a very porky law and its set a disturbing precedent for search engines now.

And I can see Google lobbying to have this charge applied to all search engines in Australia now if it isn't already. And like with most regulatory policies the market leaders will again weather it better than their smaller competitors.
 
Typhonis said:
Facebook Australia news ban sees charity, state health pages blocked (cnbc.com)


Oh shit. I think Facebook just fucked itself over.
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Well that's embarrassing (for them). But as long as they keep using robots for their decision making, said robots will keep making boneheaded decisions, such as their choice to block Facebook itself as a news source.



I'm reminded of Tumblr getting rid of porn, and their porn-searching robot repeatedly flagging sand dunes as porn, and eventually flagging itself as porn for no apparent reason.
 
Abhishekm said:
Why? Any other gets enough traction the government would just try to make them pay too. As is this is still a very porky law and its set a disturbing precedent for search engines now.

And I can see Google lobbying to have this charge applied to all search engines in Australia now if it isn't already. And like with most regulatory policies the market leaders will again weather it better than their smaller competitors.
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Because google sucks as a company and getting people onto alternatives is probably better for people in the long run.

I routinely get better results off of duck duck go anyways, so I've changed it to be my default search.
 
Rocinante said:
Because google sucks as a company and getting people onto alternatives is probably better for people in the long run.

I routinely get better results off of duck duck go anyways, so I've changed it to be my default search.
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All true, but it was not like this was a law that wold solve those issues. In the end its just news providers lobbying for a law to wean money off of tech platforms that they get more from that the other way around already.

Just because it would effect a platform one disagrees with first because of its size isn't a pro but just a consolation statement.
 
LTR said:
Facebook better not try this shit on France. My government sources in France tell me they would dispatch Special Forces to assassinate the Facebook execs until they comply.
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Such an obscure reference. But I see what you did there lol
 
Rocinante said:
He literally made the claim that the French would carry out military action against google, I believe.
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He did...

And it turned into a very weird moment where the American right wingers and American left wingers just... stopped, put aside their differences, and double-teamed said duck out of a combination of nationalism and "are you really that stupidism".
 
S'task said:
He did...

And it turned into a very weird moment where the American right wingers and American left wingers just... stopped, put aside their differences, and double-teamed said duck out of a combination of nationalism and "are you really that stupidism".
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to be fair mutual hate of the french has managed to be the cement that keeps england, wales and scotland together for hundreds of years. Also tea but mostly hate.
 
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