United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

Poland didn't ever have a colonial empire? Or if they did it was like a few islands in the Caribbean. Like Poland spent the century of Imperialism-under Prussian and Russian control.

Probably Soros footsoldier. He has such people in eastern Europe.
 
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I mean if America and white people are so systematically racist and terrible-it follows then that blacks ought to leave if they feel they'll always be oppressed.

Obviously if they left en masse-the Democrats would lose a substantial portion of their voter base.

Not that it would ever happen.
 
Tzeentchean Perspective said:
Speaking of Liberia, looks like the media is highlighting African-Americans leaving the country:



Will it take off? Not much. The DNC doesn't want this, because they may want to proclaim that the country is terrible, yet they can't say it's so bad that potential voters have no choice but to leave if they want to live prosperous lives.
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I was thinking about this the other day. In the ending of ROOTS, the author goes to Africa, tracks down the tribe of his ancestor and the still remember his disappearance. When you sit down and think about this, it makes no damn sense. None of those countries were independent, they were all made colonies, most of the groups that were 'tribal' (that part did have kingdoms historically in some places) were brought into towns and villages for better administration. So the odds that there would be a 'tribe' that he could find that would still be around to remember anyone seems very low. Then there's the thing that they would remember his ancestor at all. Since blacks enslaved one another constantly and sold them to Arabs, Whites, Jews, and one another. One random enslavement out of hundreds or thousands over the two-odd centuries that the tribe would have existed since, not probable.

Moving onto the actual video. I can't help but laugh. Notice that they guys in Africa are all working for NGO's. Why? Because actual local companies are pretty damn discriminatory in most of these countries, so they won't hire you if you are the wrong race or language group. Plus, as noted elsewhere on this forum, Africans often don't much like African-Americans.
I honestly wouldn't even be surprised anymore if the Left supported this, what with all the other discriminatory stuff the Left have been pulling lately. The very fact that it was talked about in positive terms on a leftist media source might indicate that.
 
There were African kingdoms and “tribes” which were sedentary and relatively wealthy. It of course varied era to era. And place to place.

To be sure the transatlantic slave trade did affect Africa in that it economically deprived the interior of capital and manpower-as well various local potentates on the coast fighting to secure slaves.

At the same time though-African slaves in the new world had no connection to their tribes-often times tribes from say East Africa and west Africa-their descendants would intermix. So there are no clear lineages or distinct heritage.

Not always-some definitely came from definable west African linguistic groups.

I doubt though an African American man going to Africa would find much beyond-well genetically there are people in say the DRC with whom he shares a lot. Which doesn’t really tell him much.

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Kingdom of Kongo - Wikipedia

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There were kingdoms in Africa-and as Wikipedia says-the slave trade existed before contact with Europeans.

In a lot of places in africa-you might have a king who had control-real or nominal over various neighboring tribes and clans.

From what I know-it actually seems Europeans aided in state formation in Africa. In that it caused certain African powers to expand and centralize.
 
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Lord Invictus said:
At the same time though-African slaves in the new world had no connection to their tribes-often times tribes from say East Africa and west Africa-their descendants would intermix. So there are no clear lineages or distinct heritage.
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Probably not many from East Africa, that was an Arab dominated slave zone till about the 1920-50's (Seabrook met a black African slave in Arabia around that time, they only changed to legal-fiction slavery due to oil drawing media attention). But even if was only the west-African coast (probably not but just for the sake of argument) there were hundreds of minor ethnic groups there from Senegal down to Cameroon, just on the coastline. More back then, a lot of them have been absorbed or eliminated by more successful groups in the centuries since.

Lord Invictus said:
There were kingdoms in Africa-and as Wikipedia says-the slave trade existed before contact with Europeans.
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To be honest, slavery as a practice goes back to at least the dawn of agriculture. I haven't seen any notes about it being practiced by hunter-gatherers, but that could have a few explanations: anthropologists are famously biased and misinterpret what they see, the H&G tribes wisened up quickly, or it was only invented by sedentary cultures and spread out to less technologically developed tribes through success imitation and barter.
 
With regards to the kingdom of the Kongo-it seems that it was indeed a monarchy-a monarchy that was embedded into village and tribal life via king splinter governors and the like.

So in the Kongo-some third cousin of the king was put in charge of a province of villages 500 miles away.

African monarchs seemed to rely on pre existing social structures-clans, village head men, and the like.

Even so-a dominant ethnic group would be in charge, and internal conflict likely did occur. As well as external expansion.

What the European involvement did seem to do was depopulate the interior-creating states that were reliant on European goods and playing them off against each other. Expand get slaves sell to Europeans, rinse repeat-till you have coastal politics that are relatively wealthy-at least the king and nobles but also need European support-when in the later years-the Europeans expanded further from trading posts. And by this point they were less interested in African slaves.

Apparently Kongo was a Portuguese vassal for a long time.
 
bullethead said:
Also, to be fair, I didn't know that site existed or that you could see listings for federal crimes there, and I suspect most journalists don't either. The big firms probably have a few people who're trawling that site and state/local equivalents... if they're lucky.
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This is understandable, I doubt most people have visited any .gov websites more than once or twice out of necessity, but they have important info, especially at times like these when the "news" ignores entire segments of the country.
For example, did you know that the International Longshore workers' union organized a strike along the entire West Coast last week? Probably not because it was only covered on local news websites or sites like People's World. I saw NOTHING from the big "Liberal" news outlets about this in google search results. Only because of someone's offhand remark about it on Twitter did I learn what happened.
 
“The great quantity of guns and powder which the Europeans have brought have caused terrible wars between the Kings and Princes and Caboceers of these lands, who made their prisoners of war slaves; these slaves were immediately bought up by Europeans at steadily increasing prices, which in turn, animates again and again these people to renew their facilities, and their hope of gain and easy profits makes them forget all about, using all sorts of pretexts to attack each other for reviving old disputes.”

This was on Wikipedia-which quotes some Dutch colonial official.

So yeah-Africans wanted guns-so they could conquer territory and sell captured populations to Europeans.
 
Tzeentchean Perspective said:
For example, did you know that the International Longshore workers' union organized a strike along the entire West Coast last week?
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"Damn Trump supporters"
"It's regarding Floyd"
"Damn whiteys"
"Exactly half of the people in the picture are white."
"Damn men!"
"Alright, you got us" There's always reason to ignore peaceful demonstrations that don't aid your unspoken goals.

Lord Invictus said:
So yeah-Africans wanted guns-so they could conquer territory and sell captured populations to Europeans.
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Kind of reminds me of the Aztecs. In Mezoamerican conflict at that time, the battles were pretty non-lethal, and when captured the culture was to go along with it and be sacreficed (from what we know). It's probably similar in this instance, where the culture was like Classical Meditarainian culture, where enslavement or ransom was the accepted and natural consequence of capture.
 
AnimalNoodles said:
They are the black version of plastic paddies
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Wakanda....sorry that’s all I can think of atm

Say, how are the gangs dealing with all of this? I don’t think this chaos alongside the fact that either the populace is becoming increasingly armed or the fact that the national guard may come in, are both risks to their presence
 
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