Stargate General Stargate thread

[Knowledgeispower]

Given how we lack a general Stargate thread I decided to create one.
Post your ideas, fanfiction recommendations, and anything Stargate related here.

 

[Spartan303]

Given how we lack a general Stargate thread I decided to create one.
Post your ideas, fanfiction recommendations, and anything Stargate related here.

I am ashamed to admit that I hadn't done one, considering how much I love Stargate.

 

[Knowledgeispower]

I am ashamed to admit that I hadn't done one, considering how much I love Stargate.

To be fair we still lack ones for BattleStar Galactica,Mass Effect, the Expanse, Babylon 5 and Halo.

 

[Husky_Khan]

To be fair we still lack ones for BattleStar Galactica,Mass Effect, the Expanse, Babylon 5 and Halo.

The Mass Effect one is in the Gaming forum actually... took me a while to find it a while back as well.

https://www.the-sietch.com/index.php?threads/mass-effect-general-thread.195/

 

[Knowledgeispower]

alright here are my first stargate fanfiction recommendations

Flight of the Orion, a stargate: atlantis fanfic | FanFiction

www.fanfiction.net

aka when the Orion is a bit more online when it fights the Wraith and survives. Its 8.2k words long and its potential aftermath would be interesting. Alas its a one shot

and the world war series
Xover: Worldwar: Discovering the Balance Ch 1, Stargate: SG-1 & Battlestar Galactica: 2003 | FanFiction

the gist of which what happens when the Race and the 12 Colonies attempt to invade Stargate Earth after it has built 16 ships and given them Asgard Plasma Beams(oh and the Ori didn't invade the Galaxy) and the aftermath of said events which are the three succeeding stories.

Xover: WorldWar: The Balance Destroyed Ch 1, Stargate: SG-1 & Battlestar Galactica: 2003 | FanFiction

m.fanfiction.net

Xover: Worldwar: Missionaries Down to Earth Ch 1, Stargate: SG-1 & Battlestar Galactica: 2003 | FanFiction

m.fanfiction.net

Xover: Worldwar: Establishing A Balance Ch 1, Stargate: SG-1 & Battlestar Galactica: 2003 | FanFiction

m.fanfiction.net

they're really good and i can't say enough good things about the series which is ongoing albeit at relatively slow update rate

 

[DarthOne]

So, I'm planning on writing up a Stargate fic and would like a beta reader onboard whose familiar with the setting; both to bounce ideas off of and to make sure that I'm getting the details correct. Is anyone interested?

 

[Spartan303]

What are the basics?

 

[DarthOne]

What are the basics?

It's set during Season 3 of SG-1. It's going to be written as something of a one-off story, though there will be room left for a sequel, or even multiple sequels, depending on how well it is received.

As for the story itself, I'm intending to try and write it in the sort of 'style' of a two-part story. Like this was a novelization of sorts of an episode of SG-1. As for length, I'm still working on that, but I can't imagine more than a little over a half-dozen chapters at most in the ballpark of 3,000 to 5,000 words each. The story takes place on the world of Terella, which was seen in the season 2 episode 'Need'.

As for the story itself, I'd rather not spoil it here. The story is a crossover, though that should not be an issue, as I'm fairly confident in my knowledge of the crossover elements and a general notion of how well their tech will match up with the Stargate-verse. So you shouldn't have to worry about that too much. I will say that we're not talking about a massive armada, planet or an entire faction getting IOST'd over. Though they aren't to be taken lightly.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

I don't know BSG fluff much at all, but I have a question.

How many years were the 12 Colonies around before the Toasters 'toasted' the 12 Colonies and forced Humanity to run?

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I don't know BSG fluff much at all, but I have a question.

How many years were the 12 Colonies around before the Toasters 'toasted' the 12 Colonies and forced Humanity to run?

I think it's like five or six thousand years. Don't quote me on that though.

 

[King Arts]

I haven't got far into stargate so all I know is the wikis on how the ancient and ori are the same species but the Ancients were atheists who loved science while most of their race were religious and both ascended. But why are the Ori bad?

 

[mrttao]

I haven't got far into stargate so all I know is the wikis on how the ancient and ori are the same species but the Ancients were atheists who loved science while most of their race were religious and both ascended. But why are the Ori bad?

IIRC the Ori, once ascended, declared "gods did not use to exist, but now that we used secular technology to ascend to energy beings of higher dimension it means we are literally Gods now. and must be worshipped as such"

AFAIK the atheists ascended went "we must not interfere with the lesser races. let them live out as they would".
in practice it meant they backstabbed their allies who were nearly on par with them, they also left behind the stargate network and a bunch of tech. that the Gould found and used to conquer the galaxy.

basically, NEITHER the ancients NOR the Ori are good. they are both bad but different shades of bad.

The Ancients are basically USA Democrat Politicians. Militant Atheists who make everything worse.

The Ori are an alliance of:
1. Atheists who rule a nation of muslim Jihadists
2. true believers who believe themselves to be the reincarnation of Muhammad, destined to conquer the world for their own personal benefit.
Both wanting to convert the entire universe.

Ori and Ancients are both very bad.

 

[King Arts]

The Ori, once ascended, declared "using technology to ascend to energy beings of higher dimension means we are literally Gods now. and must be worshipped as such"

The left the milky way galaxy to the andromeda galaxy and established a theorcracy that worships them. Said worship apparently actually gives them additional power, which sorta proves them to be right.
They are warlike and expansionist, wanting to conquer people and force them to worship them.

IIRC the atheists were actually the majority of their race, not the Ori.
They went "we must not interfere with the lesser races. let them live out as they would". Oh and also the re-seeded the galaxy with a more primitive version of themselves based on their ancient past (humans)

in practice it meant they backstabbed their allies who were nearly on par with them, they also left behind the stargate network and a bunch of tech. that the Gould found and used to conquer the galaxy.

basically, NEITHER the ancients NOR the Ori are good. they are both bad but different shades of bad.
The Ancients are Democrat governors. Militant Atheists who fuck everything up.
The Ori are Atheists who rule a nation of muslim Jihadists who want to convert the entire universe.
Both are bad.

Oh ok, so they are technically gods, but aren't the ONLY gods as the Ancients are also gods that aren't asking for worship. So what is the benefit of worshiping them? Like are they good gods to their worshippers? Do they cure diseases, make them live longer, help them ascend or give an afterlife?

If they did that they would be worthy of being gods even if they convert by the sword. If they are assholes like Gould though who keep their people as primitives then they are evil gods and shit.

 

[mrttao]

Oh ok, so they are technically gods, but aren't the ONLY gods as the Ancients are also gods that aren't asking for worship. So what is the benefit of worshiping them? Like are they good gods to their worshippers? Do they cure diseases, make them live longer, help them ascend or give an afterlife?

No, in fact the Ascended Ancients literally have laws against receiving worship.
IIRC the Ancients stamp out cults who try to worship them (one of the few times they break their "don't interfere" rule).

Ancients who accept worship are forcibly stripped of their Ascended status by other Ancients working together.
Well, if they really want worship they can defect to the Ori.

If they did that they would be worthy of being gods even if they convert by the sword. If they are assholes like Gould though who keep their people as primitives then they are evil gods and shit.

Sorry, I don't quite remember how Ori treat their followers.

 

[King Arts]

No, in fact the Ascended Ancients literally have laws against receiving worship.
IIRC the Ancients stamp out cults who try to worship them (one of the few times they break their "don't interfere" rule).

Ancients who accept worship are forcibly stripped of their Ascended status by other Ancients working together.
Well, if they really want worship they can defect to the Ori.

Sorry, I don't quite remember how Ori treat their followers.

No I get that the Ancients are not interventionist I was asking how to Ori treat their followers.
Because if polytheism with many gods is a thing then there could be evil gods. Like in Elder scrolls the Daedra are gods. But Molag Bal is evil so should be opposed.

But if the gods are actually doing good things like providing for their followers with decent afterlife, cures, preventing famines, protecting them from enemies, etc. Then it's not wrong for them to convert by the sword. But if they are doing nothing, and just taking worship from their followers but not giving anything then they are pretty much shit.

 

[johnreiter]

No I get that the Ancients are not interventionist I was asking how to Ori treat their followers.
Because if polytheism with many gods is a thing then there could be evil gods. Like in Elder scrolls the Daedra are gods. But Molag Bal is evil so should be opposed.

But if the gods are actually doing good things like providing for their followers with decent afterlife, cures, preventing famines, protecting them from enemies, etc. Then it's not wrong for them to convert by the sword. But if they are doing nothing, and just taking worship from their followers but not giving anything then they are pretty much shit.

The Ori keep their followers at a mostly medieval level of development (except when they need advanced technology for something). The Ori gain more power the more they are worshiped, so the entire society is structured around constantly worshiping the Ori for hours at a time, allowing just enough free time to get things done.

The Ori want all sentient beings to worship them, so they can become all-powerful. They claim that following Origin (the religion they teach) will cause you to ascend and become an Ori when you die. In reality, the Ori never share their power. Once the first Ori ascended, they edited the Book of Origin to remove anything that would lead people to ascend, and replaced it with lots of stuff about worshiping the Ori and other meaningless nonsense specifically designed to lead their followers AWAY from ascension.

All that said, the Ori do do things for their worshipers. The priests of Origin, called priors, are genetically enhanced with psychic powers. They not only preach, but use their powers to perform healings and other miracles to show people how powerful the Ori are and how richly they reward their followers. Of course, they also kill heretics with those same powers, its the iron hand in the velvet glove. The Ori have the power to do much more incredible miracles of course, but rarely bother. What the priors can do is impressive enough for the mob

 

[johnreiter]

I haven't got far into stargate so all I know is the wikis on how the ancient and ori are the same species but the Ancients were atheists who loved science while most of their race were religious and both ascended. But why are the Ori bad?

I wanted to mention, despite what the show seems to imply, I don't think it was the perspectives the Ori and the Ancients had before they Ascended that made them good or bad. The Ori (before they ascended) were apparently very religious, and the original followers of Origin (before it was edited). The Ancients were atheists, which led to the two groups fighting each other, and splitting up. The Ori became evil because, once they Ascended, they realized that they could draw power from their worshipers and took advantage of it. When the Ancients finally Ascended (thousands of years later), they also realized this fact, but chose to resist the temptation and instead decided never to interfere with mortals, for fear that somebody would start worshiping them and they too would get corrupted with power.

Maybe the real problem was that the Ori ascended too soon, and the Ancients had more time for their culture to develop. Still, I think it's funny how the Ancients act like they were so superior for putting science ahead of religion, yet it was the Ori who Ascended first, by millennia.

 

[Jormungandr]

Wait, wait, what's this about Yu being a "closet Tok'ra"? Because he just shares their principle of sharing a body instead of dominating it?

 

[King Arts]

Wait, wait, what's this about Yu being a "closet Tok'ra"? Because he just shares their principle of sharing a body instead of dominating it?

I think it’s because he was one of the nicer Gould and was kinda reasonable for the most part and did not act insane like the others.

 

[mrttao]

Honestly I am not all that into Tokrah either.