Gamergate 2 has now become official

[Agent23]

Rush Limbaugh.
Dude who basically saved conservatives from being wiped out if the media by going radio?
Won the presidential medal of freedom from Trump in his last SOTU. Died not long after.

Oh, yeah, totally forgot about him, mainly because I don't listen to US radio.

Anyway, wanna know of another conservative I like and see as an inspiration?

Pyotr Stolipin.

And of course you can never go wrong with the great leader of Bulgaria, Khan Krum.


Can we add stoicism to the list of "classic/old conservativism" despite Silicon Valley eating it up?

By the way, is this limited just to politicians and tv personalities and philosophers, or can we add economists like Thomas Sowell, Bryan Caplan and so on and so forth?

And do libertarians like the Pauls count?

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

I said the Quartering because he leads with the statement that he thinks Matt is right in what he is doing with it.

He also goes into more detail, I'm both his videos.

Most of the tweets though, don't involve Walsh. Most invovle contributors who went after the gamers who were telling Walsh that this had been going on...for awhile and had been stopped a decade ago by gamers and commentary like the Quartering for bringing attention to it.

Even Shad and them said that the issues they had were from the statement that it seems like Matt didn't know that this is something that has been going on for awhile. The other main issues was from past comments he made, and what a lot of those contributors and those writing the articles on DW.

And the tweets by those not Walsh basically saying gamers on both sides are stupid and childish.

So in other words, another tally for "toxic Internet fanbases fighting on behalf of the person they are a fan of (Matt Walsh) when they should not."

 

[Zachowon]

So in other words, another tally for "toxic Internet fanbases fighting on behalf of the person they are a fan of (Matt Walsh) when they should not."

Less fan base, more people that actively contribute as write articles for DW

 

[Zachowon]

American conservative basically is what we are talking about

 

[Pocky Balboa]

Other people, like The Quartering, when Matt Walsh replied to him, simply threw up a screenshot of some article Matt Walsh made one, two, five years ago or whatever which is fine, Matt Walsh has stated he's not a gamer, plays video games and doesn't like "screentime" for kids and young adults, whatever. But that's literally a red herring in this regard. And there's a lot of that going on.

I'm sorry but between the fact that Walsh states in his video "The video game industry has perhaps done more than any other industry to indoctrinate children to wokeness than any other industry," (and no, that "perhaps" doesn't absolve him of anything, Pedowood and the major book publishers have had a greater responsibility in woke indoctrination than video games; like, the film industry has had more woke successes, especially in influence on the masses, with Barbie being the latest one, than the video game industry) and his sweeping statements on the entire industry being woke, and coupled with Walsh's video from about 10 months decrying adults playing video games as a hobby, just shows to me that Walsh still holds to the same views on video games those articles and tweets you say are just a red herring, and as such I think he doesn't deserve any sort of benefit of doubt from me and that he isn't just using the Sweet Baby Inc. situation to push his "get rid of all video games" agenda.

He then talks about how open wokeness is in the Video Game industry compared to even other industries considered woke.

See, stuff like this just compounds my negative opinion on Walsh. Like, really? Pedowood, whose big fart-sniffing events like the Oscars have been a celebration of woke on how many years now? The book publishing industry, who proudly parades their sensitivity readers? And both of these industries have taken in the last decade and a half and continue to take every opportunity to brag about how their product is diverse and for the "modern audience" and they'll prance out their actors, directors, artists, authors and whatnot who have a body of work full of woke turds. Meanwhile, years ago Gamergate blew up because Zoe Quinn and the games urinalists were doing all their nonsense under the radar like rats scurrying in the dark, and even now Sweet Baby Inc. is mad at the Steam curation group because they need to be under the radar to do their work.

Honestly, so far to me, when it comes to video games Walsh is just like those anti-2nd Ammendment wankers who expect me to take their arguments seriously on how games/guns are bad when they show they can't be assed to correct mistakes on the most basic information on the topic.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

What we actually have behind us is a whole decade of bullshit, sanctimonious, boring, paint-by-numbers, written-by-committee, DEI diversity token, too-many-cooks-in-the-kitchen, mindless, thoughtless, bloodless, soulless media made by SocJus moonbats, which has practically brought whole media empires to their knees and driven audiences to put down their game controllers and to walk out of the theater.

We are basically surrendering our media industry to Japan and other countries without a fight.

 

[Iconoclast]

We are basically surrendering our media industry to Japan and other countries without a fight.

No.

Blackrock are intentionally demolishing American media companies while also creating easy and predictable shorts for their vulture capitalist buddies. Then, when the companies collapse completely, distressed debt investors and private equity firms move in, grab them up, liquidate all their offices and equipment, fire all the workers, cancel all their pensions, and enjoy the windfall from scavenging a formerly viable corporation's carcass.

We've created a system that incentivizes sabotage.

 

[Husky_Khan]

I'm sorry but between the fact that Walsh states in his video "The video game industry has perhaps done more than any other industry to indoctrinate children to wokeness than any other industry," (and no, that "perhaps" doesn't absolve him of anything, Pedowood and the major book publishers have had a greater responsibility in woke indoctrination than video games; like, the film industry has had more woke successes, especially in influence on the masses, with Barbie being the latest one, than the video game industry) and his sweeping statements on the entire industry being woke,

That might be a sweeping statement, but the popularized posts from The Quartering and Geeks + Gamers aren't really bringing that up as their main issues with Walsh's video. And I'm just generally indifferent to the statement myself since he added a qualification. If those sweeping statements are an issue, that's something that can be applied to lots of commentators who use generalizations, hyperbole and brevity in commentary, including many of the people criticizing Matt Walsh right now.

and coupled with Walsh's video from about 10 months decrying adults playing video games as a hobby, just shows to me that Walsh still holds to the same views on video games those articles and tweets you say are just a red herring, and as such I think he doesn't deserve any sort of benefit of doubt from me and that he isn't just using the Sweet Baby Inc. situation to push his "get rid of all video games" agenda.

I do think that insertions of comments from six years ago (I saw another Geeks + Gamers video on it today and he brings up a tweet or blog post from six years ago Matt Walsh made) is a red herring IMHO.

Like here's the article...

WALSH: Stop Pretending Violent Video Games Are Harmless Just Because You Like Playing Them | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

I don't agree with much of it and the correlation he uses seems pretty cringe but it was six years ago, its a pretty mild criticism IMHO if his goal is to "get rid of all video games." It just seems more and more like... your kids (and yourselves) should spend less time in front of "screens" in general which is something he's said far more frequently and recently.

I haven't seen Matt Walsh's video on decrying adults playing video games as a hobby. I'm sure it's cringe but I'm sure it got plenty of vociferous response and criticism from gamer types. I would say

But I did see this Matt Walsh video and outside of the final two lines/twenty seconds, it seems like a whole lot of nothing. To get the outrage and criticism this is causing, you have to go back ten months in some cases... or six years in another in order to not give him the benefit of a doubt, and still take his casually made statements in as poor an interpretation as possible to foment this sort of disagreement.

I guess overall, its not terribly important. Neither of us actually follow Matt Walsh I'm assuming, I certainly don't. But this sort of criticism/outrage just seems so exaggerated and blown out of proportion IMHO. I think there are far more legitimate and substantial targets and criticisms out there.

Like, if we never knew anything about Matt Walsh before now beyond... being a "popular right wing commentator whose never commented on video games period before" would we even get this sort of reaction from RW gaming commentators if the same video was released? If we did... then I think significant swathes of right wing commentators do have a sensitivity problem.

 

[Bigking321]

We've They've created a system that incentivizes sabotage.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Abhorsen]

We are basically surrendering our media industry to Japan and other countries without a fight.

If by media you mean the hollywood, tv shows, and AAA games, then yes. And that's a good thing. Most of those have been harmful to America by pushing wokeism. "Better dead than red", basically. But also, Japan isn't the one really killing them. No the democratization of media is what is killing them.

People get their entertainment more and more from individual, independent (ish) creators. And the more this happens, the harder it becomes to exert control over them. More, it kills off old power structures that favored establishment media, which was left leaning or outright lefty.

Blackrock are intentionally demolishing American media companies while also creating easy and predictable shorts for their vulture capitalist buddies. Then, when the companies collapse completely, distressed debt investors and private equity firms move in, grab them up, liquidate all their offices and equipment, fire all the workers, cancel all their pensions, and enjoy the windfall from scavenging a formerly viable corporation's carcass.

This, however, is not an accurate depiction. Whatever blackrock wants to do is irrelevant compared to the advancement of technology simply fracturing the power of media companies.

 

[Bigking321]

I mean Blackrocks DEI stuff is absolutely contributing to the destruction.

To what degree? Who knows. But they aren't helping in any conceivable way.

 

[Abhorsen]

I mean Blackrocks DEI stuff is absolutely contributing to the destruction.

To what degree? Who knows. But they aren't helping in any conceivable way.

But contributing to the death of western media corporations is helping. Either Blackrock is helping us there, or Blackrock isn't causing the destruction.

Also, vulture capitalism is generally good, fir the same reasons vultures are good in an ecosystem. Getting value from a dead body helps.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

If by media you mean the hollywood, tv shows, and AAA games, then yes. And that's a good thing. Most of those have been harmful to America by pushing wokeism. "Better dead than red", basically. But also, Japan isn't the one really killing them. No the democratization of media is what is killing them.

People get their entertainment more and more from individual, independent (ish) creators. And the more this happens, the harder it becomes to exert control over them. More, it kills off old power structures that favored establishment media, which was left leaning or outright lefty.

This, however, is not an accurate depiction. Whatever blackrock wants to do is irrelevant compared to the advancement of technology simply fracturing the power of media companies.

But contributing to the death of western media corporations is helping. Either Blackrock is helping us there, or Blackrock isn't causing the destruction.

Also, vulture capitalism is generally good, fir the same reasons vultures are good in an ecosystem. Getting value from a dead body helps.

Naw it kills the incitive to keep something alive and healthy. I don't agree with the empire builders on a lot of things but one of the few things I do agree on is I want my culture to last longer than 5-10 years. If anything I'd love for my great-great-great grandkids (If I ever have kids.) to live as I did.

 

[Bigking321]

But contributing to the death of western media corporations is helping. Either Blackrock is helping us there, or Blackrock isn't causing the destruction.

I would disagree with this.

I'd rather have good western media corporations creating interesting stuff and culture like they used to (to whatever amount each person thinks they did) instead of them all getting infected, consumed, and worn like skinsuits by radical activists mandated by Blackrock and others.

 

[Terthna]

That might be a sweeping statement, but the popularized posts from The Quartering and Geeks + Gamers aren't really bringing that up as their main issues with Walsh's video. And I'm just generally indifferent to the statement myself since he added a qualification. If those sweeping statements are an issue, that's something that can be applied to lots of commentators who use generalizations, hyperbole and brevity in commentary, including many of the people criticizing Matt Walsh right now.



I do think that insertions of comments from six years ago (I saw another Geeks + Gamers video on it today and he brings up a tweet or blog post from six years ago Matt Walsh made) is a red herring IMHO.

Like here's the article...

WALSH: Stop Pretending Violent Video Games Are Harmless Just Because You Like Playing Them | The Daily Wire

www.dailywire.com

I don't agree with much of it and the correlation he uses seems pretty cringe but it was six years ago, its a pretty mild criticism IMHO if his goal is to "get rid of all video games." It just seems more and more like... your kids (and yourselves) should spend less time in front of "screens" in general which is something he's said far more frequently and recently.

I haven't seen Matt Walsh's video on decrying adults playing video games as a hobby. I'm sure it's cringe but I'm sure it got plenty of vociferous response and criticism from gamer types. I would say

But I did see this Matt Walsh video and outside of the final two lines/twenty seconds, it seems like a whole lot of nothing. To get the outrage and criticism this is causing, you have to go back ten months in some cases... or six years in another in order to not give him the benefit of a doubt, and still take his casually made statements in as poor an interpretation as possible to foment this sort of disagreement.

I guess overall, its not terribly important. Neither of us actually follow Matt Walsh I'm assuming, I certainly don't. But this sort of criticism/outrage just seems so exaggerated and blown out of proportion IMHO. I think there are far more legitimate and substantial targets and criticisms out there.

Like, if we never knew anything about Matt Walsh before now beyond... being a "popular right wing commentator whose never commented on video games period before" would we even get this sort of reaction from RW gaming commentators if the same video was released? If we did... then I think significant swathes of right wing commentators do have a sensitivity problem.

Honestly, I don't think what Matt Walsh said is even the thing people actually take issue with the most; it's the downright childish (and disturbingly reminiscent of the regressive left) reactions his peers (people like Chris Brunet and Gregg Re) had towards those disagreeing with him, and how they escalated the whole thing into a deeply tribalistic conflict. One that drives a wedge between those who would otherwise be allied against our common enemy, the regressive left; who seeks all our destruction.

 

[ThatZenoGuy]

I would disagree with this.

I'd rather have good western media corporations creating interesting stuff and culture like they used to (to whatever amount each person thinks they did) instead of them all getting infected, consumed, and worn like skinsuits by radical activists mandated by Blackrock and others.

Adding more shit to a rotten structure just makes a bigger mess. You have to demolish it down to the foundations and build anew.
Normies eat up anything, unless they get poked and prodded too hard, which is what caused Gamergate 1 (and now 2).
We 'need' major events that cripple the industry really hard if we're to ever get it back up and running properly.

I want a good western media industry, but I know for a fact it won't happen unless the shit already in place is wiped clean off the face of the earth for good, we cannot let them come back ever again.

My question is 'how do you make good Western media when anyone attempting it is crushed underfoot by cancelculture and flat out stasi-esque tactics?'

 

[Iconoclast]

Getting value from a dead body helps.

Not when it results from the deliberate sabotage of formerly productive companies that puts American workers and families out of work, cuts off their pensions and support networks, and leaves behind depleted ghost towns full of opioid abusers.

 

[Captain X]

Honestly, I don't think what Matt Walsh said is even the thing people actually take issue with the most; it's the downright childish (and disturbingly reminiscent of the regressive left) reactions his peers (people like Chris Brunet and Gregg Re) had towards those disagreeing with him, and how they escalated the whole thing into a deeply tribalistic conflict. One that drives a wedge between those who would otherwise be allied against our common enemy, the regressive left; who seeks all our destruction.

Yeah, I have no idea how many times I've seen someone on a conservative-leaning group on FB say something along the lines of suggesting that all anime fans were purple hair Leftists, and just completely ignore the fact the push-back going on among anime fans against that type, who have taken over the localization industry.

 

[Agent23]

American conservative basically is what we are talking about

And I am Eastern European.

 

[Vyor]

That might be a sweeping statement, but the popularized posts from The Quartering and Geeks + Gamers aren't really bringing that up as their main issues with Walsh's video. And I'm just generally indifferent to the statement myself since he added a qualification. If those sweeping statements are an issue, that's something that can be applied to lots of commentators who use generalizations, hyperbole and brevity in commentary, including many of the people criticizing Matt Walsh right now.

What qualification? He said that everyone playing video games was a moron.

Walsh can die in a hole.