GA Guidestones damaged/destroyed

[Battlegrinder]

You have a very strange way of thinking. The "monument" was very straightforward in its language, and was entirely in line with the goals of the globalist agenda. I doubt it had very much to do with the Cold War outside of perhaps one of the rationalizations for wanting to reduce the human population to such a low number. I can't help but that that you simply want there to be some mundane explanation for the guidestones. The thing is, if that was the case, there wouldn't be this mystery behind them because whoever had them built would have been crowing about it all along.

What exactly is the alternative to the "it's just some eccentric weirdo worried about the cold war" theory? "Globalists" realized the Soviet Union was going to collapse in ten years and set up a big granite monument in Georgia in order to....do something?

Probably. But what I was getting at is how it has not been possible for anyone to find who was responsible for the monument itself. As in, its design, construction, and maintenance.

It was built by the Elberton Granite Finishing Company, and maintained ether by the county or by the country and the Elberton Granite Association, which is a trade association for the granite industry.

What do you base this assumption on? It has needed repair previously, and that work was done to it.

It needed paint cleaned off before, that needs like one dude and a pressure washer. That's different than rebuilding the entire structure.





Though speaking of mysterious parties responsible for the monument, both it's construction and its destruction, John Oliver did a segment on the guidestones recently, where he drew on material from the apparently excellent documentary "Dark Clouds over Elberton", which suggested that the guidestones were commissioned by a local doctor that was also probably some sort of racist.

And then a month later someone runs out and blow it up, right after the guidestones are pegged as being the work of a racist by a guy who's audience is composed of the sort of people that are really big on applying sins of the father to random statues.

Maybe just a coincidence, but as I said before, people have had it out for the guidestones for years and years and it's never been subject to to anything worse than paint. It's at least possible that Oliver's discussion of it is connected to why someone decided to escalate to explosives.

 

[Captain X]

What exactly is the alternative to the "it's just some eccentric weirdo worried about the cold war" theory? "Globalists" realized the Soviet Union was going to collapse in ten years and set up a big granite monument in Georgia in order to....do something?

I state that I don't believe the Cold War had anything to do with it and your response is to continue to infer this had something to do with the Cold War. As for why, why have the leftists been blatantly broadcasting their intentions?

It was built by the Elberton Granite Finishing Company, and maintained ether by the county or by the country and the Elberton Granite Association, which is a trade association for the granite industry.

Who payed for it? Who has continued to pay for it? I certainly hope no tax dollars have gone toward it.

It needed paint cleaned off before, that needs like one dude and a pressure washer. That's different than rebuilding the entire structure.

And yet I don't doubt that it'll happen.

Though speaking of mysterious parties responsible for the monument, both it's construction and its destruction, John Oliver did a segment on the guidestones recently, where he drew on material from the apparently excellent documentary "Dark Clouds over Elberton", which suggested that the guidestones were commissioned by a local doctor that was also probably some sort of racist.

And then a month later someone runs out and blow it up, right after the guidestones are pegged as being the work of a racist by a guy who's audience is composed of the sort of people that are really big on applying sins of the father to random statues.

Maybe just a coincidence, but as I said before, people have had it out for the guidestones for years and years and it's never been subject to to anything worse than paint. It's at least possible that Oliver's discussion of it is connected to why someone decided to escalate to explosives.

And I still wouldn't feel bad to see them blown up anymore than I would were it a statue of Lenin or Stalin or Mao or Pal Pot, for whatever the reason.

 

[Battlegrinder]

I state that I don't believe the Cold War had anything to do with it and your response is to continue to infer this had something to do with the Cold War.

You're missing the point, then. In 1979 when the monument was built, there was no such thing as a globalist, because that ideology did not and could not exist in the heavily polarize capitalist vs communist bipolar order that defined international relations at the time. It is extremely improbable that such a group would have been around in the late 70s, or that they would bother to assemble a monument to their agenda, and agenda they wouldn't be able to implement for any part of the foreseeable future given the continued existence of the USSR, nor did anyone in the 70s believe the USSR was about to collapse.

As for why, why have the leftists been blatantly broadcasting their intentions?

That's not an answer. Explain why it would benefit someone to carve "cap world population at 500 million" on a rock in the middle of Georgia.

Who payed for it? Who has continued to pay for it?

I don't know, call them up and ask why the maintained the thing.

And yet I don't doubt that it'll happen.

Right, because the NWO can't keep fling if they don't write down thier evil plans on a rock in the middle of nowhere.

 

[Captain X]

You're missing the point, then. In 1979 when the monument was built, there was no such thing as a globalist, because that ideology did not and could not exist in the heavily polarize capitalist vs communist bipolar order that defined international relations at the time. It is extremely improbable that such a group would have been around in the late 70s, or that they would bother to assemble a monument to their agenda, and agenda they wouldn't be able to implement for any part of the foreseeable future given the continued existence of the USSR, nor did anyone in the 70s believe the USSR was about to collapse.

This is an assumption on your part. This ideology has been around at least as long as climate fear-mongering has been around.

That's not an answer. Explain why it would benefit someone to carve "cap world population at 500 million" on a rock in the middle of Georgia.

Just because you don't like an answer doesn't mean that it isn't one.

I don't know, call them up and ask why the maintained the thing.

Because someone paid them to do it, obviously. But attempts have already been made at finding out who funded the thing and had it built and have ended in dead ends.

Right, because the NWO can't keep fling if they don't write down thier evil plans on a rock in the middle of nowhere.

Or, you know, gloat.

 

[Sailor.X]

I dunno about it being Moloch.
I think Moloch would want there to be as many woman as possible popping out babies and throwing them into furnaces.

Google new world order and Molech statues at their meetings.

 

[Battlegrinder]

This is an assumption on your part. This ideology has been around at least as long as climate fear-mongering has been around.

Climate fearmongering emerged out of the western environment movement, which was a mix of real issues, hippie back to nature stupidity, and Russian funded anti-nuclear astroturfing. The globalist DARVOs man WEF types had nothing to do with it and at most have co-opted it for thier own use, but they post date it by a fair bit.

Just because you don't like an answer doesn't mean that it isn't one.

Ok, since you seem to playing dumb here, let me try again. Your initial "answer" was completely irrelevant. Leftists "blatantly broadcast thier intentions" for several reasons.
1. As propaganda to embolden thier side and demoralize the other.
2. As a show of dominance to flaunt how much control they have.
3. They're not "broadcasting thier intentions", it's an earneat attempt to persuade that other people misread.
4. Trolling, which is sort of 1 and 2 as well, but those have other goals, this is just to pass people off.

A bunch of rocks in the middle of nowhere does none of those those things, and so a different explanation is required.

You even implicitly acknowledge that, by mentioning how they "broadcast" their intentions, that is they sorts those ideas far and wide through the media using TV, social media, and other mediums. You cannot broadcast anything with a bunch of granite slabs in a field.

Or, you know, gloat.

"Hah, we have the income to set up some rocks in the middle of nowhere, our reach knows no limits!" - Ida Auken, apparently.

 

[strunkenwhite]

Maybe just a coincidence, but as I said before, people have had it out for the guidestones for years and years and it's never been subject to to anything worse than paint. It's at least possible that Oliver's discussion of it is connected to why someone decided to escalate to explosives.

Connected, I'd wager, in that that Oliver covered it because of Kandiss Taylor making "I will demolish this" a campaign promise. Now, it seems, she will not be governor, meaning if demolishing needed to be done it would have to be done by someone else.

 

[Battlegrinder]

Connected, I'd wager, in that that Oliver covered it because of Kandiss Taylor making "I will demolish this" a campaign promise. Now, it seems, she will not be governor, meaning if demolishing needed to be done it would have to be done by someone else.

I considered that, but Taylor was addressing the same crowd that's known about and loathed the guidestones for decades, I don't see any particular reason why her ads or failure to win the race would motivate an escalation to bombs.

 

[Terthna]

I don't care how offended you are by that monument; whoever did this is just as wrong as the regressive leftists who tear down statues, and they should have to pay to rebuild it. Don't put them in prison; just garnish their wages for the rest of their life until the debt is paid off.

 

[Abhorsen]

I mean, if we're talking purely in terms of which statue or monument that deserves to be destroyed the most, I'm sure there's dozens of cringey anti-Trump "art" peices that deserve that spot over some granite slabs out in the middle of nowhere.

No, honestly, IMO this is worse than cringe. It's praising eugenics directly, and also a number of other things I drastically disagree with. It's definitely one of my most hated works of art that isn't definitively tarnished by known evil. If I was a king of the US, I'd knock it down. But I'm not, and it's wrong to knock down other people's stuff.

 

[Captain X]

Climate fearmongering emerged out of the western environment movement, which was a mix of real issues, hippie back to nature stupidity, and Russian funded anti-nuclear astroturfing. The globalist DARVOs man WEF types had nothing to do with it and at most have co-opted it for thier own use, but they post date it by a fair bit.

You certainly are desperate to separate these stones from the globalist elites.

Ok, since you seem to playing dumb here, let me try again. Your initial "answer" was completely irrelevant. Leftists "blatantly broadcast thier intentions" for several reasons.
1. As propaganda to embolden thier side and demoralize the other.
2. As a show of dominance to flaunt how much control they have.
3. They're not "broadcasting thier intentions", it's an earneat attempt to persuade that other people misread.
4. Trolling, which is sort of 1 and 2 as well, but those have other goals, this is just to pass people off.

A bunch of rocks in the middle of nowhere does none of those those things, and so a different explanation is required.

The stones did all of those things. Why would you claim otherwise?

You even implicitly acknowledge that, by mentioning how they "broadcast" their intentions, that is they sorts those ideas far and wide through the media using TV, social media, and other mediums. You cannot broadcast anything with a bunch of granite slabs in a field.

By broadcast, I mean tip their hand and reveal what their intentions are ahead of time. They usually do this when they are confident that nothing can stop them.

"Hah, we have the income to set up some rocks in the middle of nowhere, our reach knows no limits!" - Ida Auken, apparently.

What a laughable take.

 

[strunkenwhite]

I considered that, but Taylor was addressing the same crowd that's known about and loathed the guidestones for decades, I don't see any particular reason why her ads or failure to win the race would motivate an escalation to bombs.

Well, there are mainly two in my mind:
1. I am not Georgian and remain open to being corrected but I suspect the monument was fairly obscure and Taylor reached a sizeable audience that did not know about the guidestones but loathed them upon learning about their existence.
2. For those who had a longstanding hatred of the things, if her candidacy and (the incredibly hyped, to hear Oliver tell it) campaign promise created an expectation that they would finally be dealt with, it doesn't seem implausible that such hope being raised and then dashed would seem more intolerable than the previous status quo. Imagine Roe v Wade not getting overturned after the leaked draft came out.

There's a lesser consideration that Oliver didn't paint the things as particularly needing to be removed, but we're already talking about unbalanced minds here, so with that in mind I wouldn't necessarily exclude the idea of anyone having such a takeaway from his video.

It's all speculation anyway, which I hope can be made obsolete by the actual culprit being found.

 

[Zachowon]

Well, there are mainly two in my mind:
1. I am not Georgian and remain open to being corrected but I suspect the monument was fairly obscure and Taylor reached a sizeable audience that did not know about the guidestones but loathed them upon learning about their existence.
2. For those who had a longstanding hatred of the things, if her candidacy and (the incredibly hyped, to hear Oliver tell it) campaign promise created an expectation that they would finally be dealt with, it doesn't seem implausible that such hope being raised and then dashed would seem more intolerable than the previous status quo. Imagine Roe v Wade not getting overturned after the leaked draft came out.

There's a lesser consideration that Oliver didn't paint the things as particularly needing to be removed, but we're already talking about unbalanced minds here, so with that in mind I wouldn't necessarily exclude the idea of anyone having such a takeaway from his video.

It's all speculation anyway, which I hope can be made obsolete by the actual culprit being found.

As someone from GA. We learned in passing about them in GA history which is 8th grade.

 

[Battlegrinder]

You certainly are desperate to separate these stones from the globalist elites.

No more than you're desperate to tie them to "the globalist elites".

The stones did all of those things. Why would you claim otherwise?

Propaganda: Uh, maybe in the most technical sense, but a little known monument in a field has next to no utility as a messaging platform, given that it makes it hard to actually spread that message. There's a reason political campaign commission TV ads or newspaper columns, instead of building monuments out in a field somewhere.

Furthermore, to the extent it's propaganda, it's bad at it, because it makes no effort to argue for its positions or persuade people they are reasonable.

2. It's not a show of power, building a monument in a field somewhere doesn't prove anything, not even in a "look how rich were are" sense. Australia built a replica of Stonehenge, a much larger and more complicated structure, for only 250k.

3. See point 1, the monument makes no effort to really persuade people to buy into its controversial ideas, and the non controversial ones were already widely accepted, and in some cases are bedrock principles of western civilization.

4. While it's certainly the case that the monument aggravated a certain type of conspiracy nut, it's highly questionable that it was built for the purpose of doing so.

1. I am not Georgian and remain open to being corrected but I suspect the monument was fairly obscure and Taylor reached a sizeable audience that did not know about the guidestones but loathed them upon learning about their existence.
2. For those who had a longstanding hatred of the things, if her candidacy and (the incredibly hyped, to hear Oliver tell it) campaign promise created an expectation that they would finally be dealt with, it doesn't seem implausible that such hope being raised and then dashed would seem more intolerable than the previous status quo. Imagine Roe v Wade not getting overturned after the leaked draft came out.

1. Possibly, but they're fairly well already in the circle of people that would loathe them already, and this same logic applies to Oliver much more, as his audience is far larger, far more tolerate of vandalism, and far less likely to have heard about the guidestones.
2. Taylor was a very clear no-hope candidate from the very start, it's unlikely her inevitable defeat was particularly demoralizing, and while Oliver noted that she tried to build hype around her an to demolish the guidestones, it's not clear that it caught on at all.

 

[Bassoe]

There's already a song about it. The internet works fast.

 

[Arch Dornan]

Any argument over monuments being destroyed has been revoked after the George Floyd riots. It's free fall season.

 

[Free-Stater 101]

So much for the time capsule...
Alleged time capsule beneath Georgia Guidestones a bust after bombing forces demolition
Sad, I was hoping for a confession of the builders in the murder of Jimmy Hoffa but it was a no go.