Breaking News Francis Scott Key Bridge Collapses

Agent23

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I am 80% certain it was a series of idiotic fuck ups and greedy that led to this with maybe 20% entertaining the idea that it was premeditated by someone.
You can never rule that shit out.
 

49ersfootball

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Thats retarded you always do a full investigation into shit like this. Yes it could be an accident and most likely is but you always investigate first because if it is enemy action you do not want to encourage more.
Not shocking that the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse in Baltimore faded from the headlines very quickly.
 

Lord Sovereign

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I am surprised it is hard for a lot of people to believe “weird things happen.”

Planning for freak accidents is difficult because they are freak accidents. So so many things had to go wrong in a particular order for it to happen that the likelihood of it happening is practically improbable…but not impossible unfortunately.

Case in point: The Titanic Disaster.
 

Agent23

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I am surprised it is hard for a lot of people to believe “weird things happen.”

Planning for freak accidents is difficult because they are freak accidents. So so many things had to go wrong in a particular order for it to happen that the likelihood of it happening is practically improbable…but not impossible unfortunately.

Case in point: The Titanic Disaster.
The titanic happened because of incompetence, excessive hubris and idiot cost and corners cutting.
 

Lord Sovereign

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The titanic happened because of incompetence, excessive hubris and idiot cost and corners cutting.
The worst error made that day was the ship went too fast with ice in the vicinity. Even then, with the theory of a Cold Water mirage being in play, that makes the matter more difficult.

Everything else? Everything that could go wrong indeed went wrong. Just enough water-tight compartments were punctured for her to sink, and no other ship in the area could get to her in time. It was astonishingly bad luck, although some sailors would rumble that Titanic was doomed the moment she was deemed “unsinkable.”

Sailors are a superstitious lot. Sometimes I wonder, given how temperamental the sea is, if that isn’t warranted…
 

Agent23

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The worst error made that day was the ship went too fast with ice in the vicinity. Even then, with the theory of a Cold Water mirage being in play, that makes the matter more difficult.
The worst error?

Bruh, there were all sorts of design and construction problems, ranging from the quality of the steel and rivets used to the bulkhead doors not stopping water inflow.
Everything else? Everything that could go wrong indeed went wrong. Just enough water-tight compartments were punctured for her to sink, and no other ship in the area could get to her in time.
And the lack of enough life boats...
 

Buba

A total creep
The titanic happened because of incompetence, excessive hubris and idiot cost and corners cutting.
Meh.
Have the ship make 0,1% different speed and it will miss the iceberg by miles. Nothing happens ...

Same thing in Baltimore - as already stated by some Sage Member, have the engines stop a minute or two later or sooner = bridge intact.
 
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Bacle

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So the FBI is investigating.

Are we still under that retarded ass ruling that we aren't allowed to talk about how maybe there might have been foul play involved?
The workers that died make this a criminal matter, and there are going to be overlapping NTSB, FBI, and possibly Coast Guard investigations into this clusterfuck.

I expect negligence in the repairs or upkeep, is going to be the culprit. When power loss happens, it's usually cause something failed before it was expected to, or someone did something dumb. Story I heard was too many refridgerated containers for the power system to handle all the time in their current state, and they'd had power failures in port trying to stabilize the system.

I've watched enough Air Disasters to understand how the NTSB has to deal with issues where criminal liability may be involved.

Only reason it isn't worse is because the harbor pilot acted so fast to warn the harbor master to close the bridge.
 

Captain X

Well-known member
Osaul
I am surprised it is hard for a lot of people to believe “weird things happen.”

Planning for freak accidents is difficult because they are freak accidents. So so many things had to go wrong in a particular order for it to happen that the likelihood of it happening is practically improbable…but not impossible unfortunately.

Case in point: The Titanic Disaster.
And I'm just appalled that the power line that ran parallel to the bridge had better protection from ship collision than the bridge did.
 

49ersfootball

Well-known member
I am surprised it is hard for a lot of people to believe “weird things happen.”

Planning for freak accidents is difficult because they are freak accidents. So so many things had to go wrong in a particular order for it to happen that the likelihood of it happening is practically improbable…but not impossible unfortunately.

Case in point: The Titanic Disaster.
Guessing the investigation still ongoing 🤔
 

Bacle

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Good news that some of the mid-sized cargo vessels are now able to enter and exit Balitmore Harbor once again.

IIRC, they have a safe channel now that can handle 30 foot draft vessels, which opens up a lot more ability to move ships in and out.
 

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