Paying people back -money you've stolen from them....is a form of gibs.
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Morphic Tide
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The point is the slowly-increasing mass of voters being payed out more than they're taxed, thus they're being given goods payed for by taking money from people richer than them.
The issue is sales. Convincing people that a non-substantial thing is of greater value than more money is difficult to sell to a young man or woman in their late teens or early 20's. It's a lesson that HAS to start early, and that means we need to remove Federal influence of education while increasing the role of Family.
Umm...no, letting me keep more of my money is NOT 'gibs'. That's a lie the Democrats have sold many, many people, but it's still a lie.
Completely agree. NOT a fan of farm subsidies at all.
no argument. But this is also one of the weakness of the Democrats as well. At least once you can get the people in the Dem's base to answer a simple question, "Are you actually better off with the Dems after the past 50+ years of Dem programs?"
LordsFire
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Funny, you didn't actually answer my question.
SoliFortissimi
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The religious right aren't the ones whose views of women you should be worried about.
And these idiots are the ones that try to gatekeep conservatism. God help us all.
mrttao
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> Stealing less of your money is the same as a communist bribing you with someone else's stolen money.
Oh look, more idiotic takes
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Money makes the world go round, not philosophy, and trying to convince people to remove the franchise from people who otherwise would have had it, just because the GOP doesn't like how the plebs vote, is foolishness of the highest order.
Not from their point of view, as it is more money in the personal pocket either way, and those 'tax breaks' come on the backs of things like firefighter services or other social services the Dems and most in the middle prefer to remain funded.
Then there are TABOR laws, which ensure wiser spending and larger tax refunds, instead of just allowing the state to keep excess tax revenue, that many Dems like while others don't.
See, I'm not against farm subsidies, simply because I understand crop rotations and land over-use in agriculture.
Sometimes the best thing you can do for a farm, the land it's on, and the price of the crop in question, is to pay some amount of farmers to fallow their fields for a year or two, so the land regenerates and the market doesn't get flooded.
Many people actually are better off, in how they see thing and the world, under the Dems, and not every blue city/state is a hellhole.
That's even before the Dems ability to twist blame onto the GOP for things, or the GOP's own inability to stop shooting itself in the foot with the younger gens. Trump was a breath of fresh air precisely because he was a former NYC Dem who was not caught up in the GOP's internal propaganda, which has been hamstringing the GOP's outreach since at least Bush Sr.
The GOP has to offer the public more than the Dems, in terms of real value and real options for the future, not simply trying to forever reclaim the 1950's and expect the US public to be the US public of the 1950s again.
The GOP has got to stop huffing it's own farts, and actually deal with the electorate and nation as it exists today, not in fantasies that have no relation to reality anymore.
I did, I just rejected it's premise, and showed why it's a stupid question to start with.
Yeah, it's incredibly demoralizing to realize that the stereotypes the Dems have of people on the Right looking for any reason to roll back sufferage, roll back pretty much all social safety nets, roll back multiple SCOTUS decisions about voting rights, and roll back most of US society back to the 1950s, or 19th Century, are not all false claims.
I mean at least Edward Sallow had the excuse of being born into the post-apocalypse wasteland for his reasoning behind founding Caesar's Legion; the fringe of the GOP don't even have that excuse for actually thinking these sorts of politics are viable or worth debating in the modern day.
Taxes are not theft, no matter how much some on the fringes want to use that a rhetorical drum.
This sort of stupidity for the sake of inaccurate rhetorical memes is part of why the GOP was such a joke before Trump, and why despite Trump's media smarts, the GOP continues to often be it's own worst enemy PR and media wise.
Taxation without representation IS theft though.
"Give us money"
Oh to like...Fix the roads? Educate kids? Maybe even defend our country? Yeah sure, sounds fair to me!
"Oh heavens no! We need the money to give to shitholes across the globe and to breed more future slave castes! Uhh I mean minorities!"
Bigking321
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Or to study and promote gender and trans issues in (random country name).
posh-goofiness
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Okay. Don't pay and we'll watch what happens.
Skitzyfrenic
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The difference between a mob offering protection and the government offering protection is honestly very small.
It's all based on who has primacy, forcing the other to be a 'criminal' organization.
Taxes are basically protection money, because if your don't pay them, legbreakers come to your door and punish you.
This has been true since before the written word.
It's all based on who has primacy, forcing the other to be a 'criminal' organization.
Taxes are basically protection money, because if your don't pay them, legbreakers come to your door and punish you.
This has been true since before the written word.
Bacle's responses ironically reveal that right wing South American rhetoric is relevant in the US now more than ever.
A leftist in San Fran or Boston lives in filth, wallows in disease and depravity and is happy for it.
These people, especially the educated and well off ones, worship ugliness, mediocrity and deviance and find beauty, prosperity and health to be a threat to them.
More proof that the credentialed are a bane on society and shouldn't be allowed to steer it.
A leftist in San Fran or Boston lives in filth, wallows in disease and depravity and is happy for it.
These people, especially the educated and well off ones, worship ugliness, mediocrity and deviance and find beauty, prosperity and health to be a threat to them.
More proof that the credentialed are a bane on society and shouldn't be allowed to steer it.
You do have representation, though, and the taxes do cover domestic maintenance and funding, as well as overseas aid.
Just because tax money is spent on things you do not like does not make it 'theft' or 'taxation without representation'.
Nope, I don't have the same bugaboo about taxes some people here do, nor do I think filing my tax info is some sort of defeat.
Taxes are part of civilization, part of a functioning nation, and no amount of AnCap memes or such will change that.
And you are proof just because a refugee minority is 'conservative', does not mean they don't come with their own bad ideas and biases from their homelands.
Then again, you also think Zelensky rapes kids, and other complete bulshit you will post up without a shred of proof, just because some fringe wacko said it at some point.
You are a study in why the US should not allow 3rd world refugees in from either side of the political aisle, @The Immortal Watch Dog, and why the GOP is better off not listening to the loons it has sometimes attracted.
You absolutely do not have representation though, you 'elect' people in unverified elections, who then 'elect' their own staff of unverified people who can do any fucking policy they want, without any poll, vote or questioning. And if you stop paying taxes because you disagree.
Well.
You know what happens then.
"I" personally don't like the idea of shipping billions of dollars offshore to foreign and potentially hostile nations. Why don't I get a discount on taxes because of this? I never voted for that.
SoliFortissimi
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True, and I agree that taxation being theft is a daft idea.
However, there's some merit to the idea that the people who pay the taxes aren't the people who are being represented in Congress and Senate.
Too late,unfortunately. Unlike the Dems, who have been very careful about keeping their radicals under control, the RNC has constantly given away political power to a tiny but fanatical minority of radicals. Which keeps driving otherwise conservative moderates into the maws of the Democratic Party.
If America is being subverted by Leftist thought, the RNC and the Radical Right deserve much of the blame because of their ineptitude and insanity respectively.
Yeah, sure thing, you go on continuing to act like you aren't 'represented', just because things you don't like happen with your taxes and because 'every election is fraudulent' is now your line to defend your previous stupidity.
You're just an edgelord lolcow looking to show how edgy your are to your foolish compatriots, not actually engaging in good faith conversation or posting.
There are issues with the influence of lobbyists and such, as well as term limit issues that are worth discussing.
The problem is the Left doesn't control it's radicals either, they lionize them (BLM) even after finding out about massive fraud in the organization and it funneling money to Hamas, they use groups like the ATF to harass gun owners and try to pass laws without votes via 'rule making' inside agencies, and keep lying about what happened on Jan 6th (their own agent provocateurs and CI's in the crowds caused Jan 6th to go the way it did, not Trump) to make sure the Dems get the full Riechstag Fire Effect out of it.
The radicals on the Right only are able to keep grifting and gaining ground because the radicals on the Left are allowed to do nearly anything they want, without consequence.
Though you are right the radicals on the GOP side drive more moderates away these days than the radical on the Left, because the overton window is such that many leftist radicals have institutional protection radicals on the Right do not.
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Oh that's convenient.
"You're just a troll lolcow, so therefore argument invalid, nyah!"
I am being dead serious, your choice to disregard my seriousness is YOUR CHOICE, if you want to argue in bad faith go ahead. Equally if you think that your average joe votes for 99% of shit which happens in politics, you're being ridiculous. Most people can barely name their fucking politicians let alone their policies.
Stupid, invalid, tomato, tomato.
I think most people these days are more clued into politics than ever before.
I also think that just because someone who represents my area doesn't vote the way I like, doesn't suddenly mean I am not represented or that taxes suddenly become theft.
I think you have spent far, far too much time on 4chan and the like, if you are actually being serious about this avenue of argument.
And I know at the end of the day, people like you and IWD are why moderates get driven away from the GOP, because you want an ideologically 'pure' GOP that caters to your fringe at the cost of general elect-ability.
When elections are fair and trustworthy, you do not win them via subtraction, and the rhetoric I've seen recently here is mostly about removing the vote from people who might not vote conservative a majority of the time, which is admitting cultural defeat in a huge way.
The GOP has very little to offer most of the US these days, because not many people view 'return to the 1950s' as a preferred campaign slogan, and the GOP's fiscal conservatives are still living in pre-fiat currency times while ignoring the youth don't have enough money for fiscal conservatism to matter to them.
People like @SoliFortissimi are much closer to the average person in the US and how they view things.
Frankly the longer I'm around the fringe you and IWD represent, the more I wish we had a 1000 Fetterman's in the Dems to give me a Dem I could actually live with voting for, and that might actually get something done in DC besides pushing further Left, and would actually be more competent than the entire fucking GOP has proven to be.
If you say so, but that's like, your opinion man.
Allegedly over 50% of voting Americans believe that a pedophile with dementia is a good choice for leadership.